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DP should not be a nearly useless stat in pvp.
22. Okt 2022, 00:22 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 20. Feb 2023, 08:08 (UTC)
# 91

yeah all the classes are pretty close to being either in the "broken as hell" catagory or theyre in the "only playable against other bad classes" catagory

and i dont even wanna talk about meagu, we all know how screwed that is 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 20. Feb 2023, 09:02 (UTC)
# 92
On: Feb 20, 2023, 08:08 (UTC), Written by Raizer218

yeah all the classes are pretty close to being either in the "broken as hell" catagory or theyre in the "only playable against other bad classes" catagory

and i dont even wanna talk about meagu, we all know how screwed that is 

Yeah it's not the DP what is the issue, some classes just needs nerf, but PA don't care, so just buy solution in the pearl shop as they want you to do.

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 13. Mrz 2023, 16:24 (UTC)
# 93

The finess of the combat in this game is lost in a majority of the PvP content in the game presently for the simple fact that if you get CC'd you almost alwyas get 1 shot or 2 skilled. SA is basically a usless mechanic now as it does not mitgate damage in a way that allows for SA trading. It's not just that DP needs to be more valuable its that the game is completely out of balance and PA has been butting scotch tape on a leaking fire hydrant for years now. 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 14. Mrz 2023, 23:52 (UTC)
# 94
On: Jan 8, 2023, 06:59 (UTC), Written by ReconKangas

Unfortunatly as you can see your Comment is completely un acceptable, Down votes on your post and lets be honest not a one of you play BDO in its current Meta to actually see how out of ballance it actually is...

Lets use the current change in Crystal's, the change was completely and badly needed i for one welcome the change.... BUT not a single one of you actually thought it through... how is it you can make something that is soo needed but you totally skip the class on the reason why some of the green grade weapons had 1 SINGLE SLOT....

Now with this new system you open up a 2nd crystal slot and unknowing made the green grade best in slot... 8k caphras to c19 and 3 ap less than a Pen nouver c8 more accuracy and well look at that '''''SPECIAL ATTACK DAMAGE +10%""""" THIS IS NOW BEST IN SLOT...concidering the garmoth heart in the offhand dont do crap anymore to mitigate damage. Do to the amount of over all damage in game, everyone is dying with 401+dp within a combo BUT yet you state gear gap?!?!?!?!?

i mean with IQ like this running around who needs enemies right??? how is it that it took less than an hour after the announcment that this was comming for a NA player to figure this out yet you clowns litterally didnt listen to ANY OF THE FEEDBACK  to stop this nonsense from going live... but hey its ok your metrics tell you Musa is not an issue ???? lol

So i guess just keep ignoring the fact DP/DR is pretty much pointless now you die almost instantly on engagment in PVP even at 424dp..

You posted this on Jan 8.  More than two months later, we are still here:  Green offhands are still better than yellow / red grade for PvP.  And in many cases, they're better in PvE as well.  Hell, Nesser (rentable with CP) offhand is better in many PvE cases as well!!!

Yep, a around 25ish bil item is better than a 80+ (Kutum/Nouver) or 130+ billion (Blackstar) silver item for most builds, classes, PvP scenarios.  Even in many PvE cases too.


Two months.  More than two, freaking months.  Why even progress anymore.  Siege and node war is pretty much all capped.  Open world PvP is dead.  Cheap items are better than expensive items.  What meaning do we even have to continue playing and progressing?

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 15. Mrz 2023, 12:30 (UTC)
# 95

Current PVP allows for the bully mentality to flourish ingame as they just Pk you becaue they can.  If PVP can be revamped with greater penalties for unsolicitaded attacks it would not be a problem.  Players engage in PVP because they have max equipment and it is easier for them to bully other players without reason just because they can.  Changing stats or nerfing a class will only increase this and not fix the issue 7 years past experience with both fixes.  If you truely want to have a fighting chance PVP must be an invite only/ with acceptence by both players.  Also change the guild flagging system to allowable only thru both acceptence instead of its presant system of one sided Deck bully harrasment without penalty.  Most non pvp guild leadership will not accept a PVP invite decks allowing those who deck immediately to use it expressly to bully other players.  Some guild will use this to deck on anyone they can for the sole purpose of ingame intemidation and harrasment of lower level ungeared players.  Again all this can be fixed by simply making it a two party fight. With acceptence of both parties agreeing to mutual combat. If one side does not want to engage, then they can chose not to and the offending attacking party can do nothing but accept they are not going to get the desired PVP.  Then it must be a short choice after if they insist on an unprovoked/ nonaccepted attack then they should become penalized by a lenghty penalties of remaining available for attack(karma max instant), not being allowed to use storage, towns, and a extremely lenghty karma grind to remove state.  PVP alert server wide to location of offender in areas where lesser geared players are.  Make them think twice and make it a last result use state.  If they take the bully out of the player by penalties it is then the agressors choice.   Karma will be the attackers choice.  The idea of karma bombing will only be the choice of the offender because in fairness they chose to attack not the person they are attacking.  You want to be agressive then you take responsibilty for it and the penallty is KARMA you chose to attack.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 15. Mrz 2023, 12:40 (UTC)
# 96
On: Mar 15, 2023, 12:17 (UTC), Written by Airborne187th

Irrelevant text.

I suggest to read the title of the topic first. :)

DP is being discussed here, not the karma system.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 22. Mrz 2023, 17:24 (UTC)
# 97
On: Mar 14, 2023, 23:49 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos

You posted this on Jan 8.  More than two months later, we are still here:  Green offhands are still better than yellow / red grade for PvP.  And in many cases, they're better in PvE as well.  Hell, Nesser (rentable with CP) offhand is better in many PvE cases as well!!!

Yep, a around 25ish bil item is better than a 80+ (Kutum/Nouver) or 130+ billion (Blackstar) silver item for most builds, classes, PvP scenarios.  Even in many PvE cases too.


Two months.  More than two, freaking months.  Why even progress anymore.  Siege and node war is pretty much all capped.  Open world PvP is dead.  Cheap items are better than expensive items.  What meaning do we even have to continue playing and progressing?

Ayo, what?? xD I have started hearing about this, but did not know which green weapon and have not had time to check, is this for real??? Omg, I might as well just sell both my Kutum and Nouver, along with almost all the caphras in them with a green weapon like this xD with how many caphras I could extract from other stuff I ain't using (waiting for that caphras event, yeah boi!), can almost buy a PEN disto even to make up for the small loss of AP xD

As for the progression comment, yeah...I feel you on that...why even...I do some days question why am I still grinding, why am I still boethering, even if I've become much more casual lately.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 28. Mrz 2023, 13:49 (UTC)
# 98

op i understand you, but just buffing dr will massively steer the meta in a negative direction. Just think about classes that are ok-good with dr builds!

They the will require nerfs/rebalance. Then what about evasion? If you buff dr eva builds may be dead and they (and each eva class) beg for adjustments. 

Its just not that simple. 

I personally like the 1shot meta, it just saves time. Im not a pvper tho so keep that in mind ;) 

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 28. Mrz 2023, 13:53 (UTC)
# 99
On: Mar 28, 2023, 13:49 (UTC), Written by Adonaj

op i understand you, but just buffing dr will massively steer the meta in a negative direction. Just think about classes that are ok-good with dr builds!

They the will require nerfs/rebalance. Then what about evasion? If you buff dr eva builds may be dead and they (and each eva class) beg for adjustments. 

Its just not that simple. 

I personally like the 1shot meta, it just saves time. Im not a pvper tho so keep that in mind ;) 

Evasion builds benefit from the DR as well.

buffing DR is a bigger buff on evasion than on dr classes

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 28. Mrz 2023, 13:58 (UTC)
# 100
On: Mar 28, 2023, 13:53 (UTC), Written by She

Evasion builds benefit from the DR as well.

buffing DR is a bigger buff on evasion than on dr classes

This is not true. DR scales exponentially, so the more DR you have the better one more point is.

It is true that eva players do benefit from DR aswell, it makes less difference for them than for ppl who already hardstacked DR.

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