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Dear PA, Please hire a full time balance team...
27. Jun 2022, 17:18 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 27. Jun 2022, 17:26 (UTC)
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The post was too long so I couldn't fit it all here or on reddit, the remainder of the 43,000 character post can be found in the link at the bottom of this post.

Dear Pearl Abyss, please hire a full time balance team...

 

There is a huge list of issues with balance both big and small across classes in PvE and PvP that haven't been addressed and seemingly won't ever be addressed. I can't stress enough how important it is to regularly update class balance and make sure every class is viable. Updating twice a year which has been the trend for the last two years is unacceptable and frankly confusing. Mind share, the court of public opinion, or reputation amongst the player base. Whatever you want to call it, is important. When new players ask veterans, "Is this game worth getting into?" it becomes extremely difficult to recommend the game to them because if they choose the wrong class the experience is miserable in many if not all aspects of the game compared to the classes that are strong. Players who play less popular classes lose faith in Pearl Abyss and the game the longer this neglect goes on. I am going to be frank here. Class balance is low hanging fruit. It's low development time to adjust balance numbers with high impact and high reward. It's easier to tweak balance in damage, class to class ratio modifiers, and protections on skills than it is to release a new region, new dungeons, or new actual content. Yet the reaction from the players is as if it is equal to new content. Balance changes breathe new life in aging or outdated classes. The impact class balance has on BDO is arguably more than I've seen in any other MMO. People grow attached to their mains. They spend all of their time perfecting how their class looks, their hotkey setup, the UI, their play style, etc. They are invested in their characters. Emotionally, financially, and their personal time is invested into their characters. There is zero reason why when you love a class you shouldn't be able to have fun for 6-18 month stretches of time because your class is bad and doesn't ever get meaningful changes. I believe it is time Pearl Abyss invested money on a full time balance team that actually cares. We should be seeing balance changes regularly. Regularly means every 2-4 weeks for classes that are weak and need to be brought up a bit as well ass classes that are too strong that need to be brought down. Even if the changes are minor. After a class has been nerfed, if that player base feels the nerfs were too harsh, they should know that balance is always being looked at and changed and they should feel confident that eventually balance will be adjusted further once PA sees how the changes affected their class. Right now it doesn't feel like that and it is incredibly frustrating. I am going to address every class in the game off the top of my head based on what I've seen myself or heard when asking players that main all of these classes. The point of this exercise it not to say that everything I put in here is perfect or what everyone wants, but it is to point out at that some lowly nerd who did a couple hours of work and asked a few people from each class what they thought of class balance, could put together a list of obvious issues or changes while getting paid nothing. There is no reason PA can't have a team that gets paid that does the exact same thing full time. 

Because the list was too long to post here in the forums, you can find each class detailed on reddit at this link: https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/vm0nco/dear_pearl_abyss_please_hire_a_full_time_balance/

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 27. Jun 2022, 18:58 (UTC)
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Also can't help but mention how easy it'll be to get good balancing feedback as opposed to the drivel often found on Reddit: Ask your BDO partners and content creator...most have been playing the game for so long they have a good idea of the strenghts and weaknesses of all classes.  

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 27. Jun 2022, 19:36 (UTC)
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The changes to Succession Sage on December 22, 2021, were clearly a mistake. It didn't improve the game it just removed one of its classes from the game. The class has been left behind for 7 months. PA needs to do better, they are losing money on this one.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 27. Jun 2022, 20:01 (UTC)
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Main source of income is players paying to play OP class, what balance anyone expect ?

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 27. Jun 2022, 20:05 (UTC)
# 6
On: Jun 27, 2022, 20:01 (UTC), Written by Potato

Main source of income is players paying to play OP class, what balance anyone expect ?

you are correct sir, balance doesnt sell aka "motivate" power hungry cu... players to reroll to attempt stay on top. :D

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 27. Jun 2022, 20:09 (UTC)
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 "Succ Striker PvE is also one of the best in the whole game. Succ and Awake Striker PvE should be what we strive to make every class able to achieve."

while i disagree with that, i think a few classes should receive just nerfs - theres not really a point buffing everyone when just a few classes step out of line hard. For some reason PA seems to be scared of nerfs though but it would be the right thing i guess.

"Succ Valkyrie is strange because it is good, but not as good as the awakening. The glaring issue seems to be its mobility compared to Awakening. While it doesn't need to be as good as awake, it also shouldn't be as this much slower than Awakening. Succ Valkyrie PvE though is just downright bad. It's in a group of about 4-6 classes that are borderline unusable in PvE. This class needs major PvE buffs as post rework it fell way behind."

As a succ valk main this is the only point where i can offer feedback, i feel like my class is good in pvp - especially 1v1s, the only issue i have here is that im a bit jealous , other classes can one shot with one or two well placed skills, and to kill a geared player a succ valk needs to burn through her entire set of skills, like its possible but can easily be interrupted especially when fightnig in mobs - the class wouldnt be good at all if it werent for her grab. Kinda hurts when people call you grabbot but they are right.. sadly.

Yeah mobility sucks, shes one of the less mobile classes in the entire game, thats managable though if the rest of the kit were better.

For PvE which is the biggest issue in my opinion .. the class just lacks damage, like big time. PA could probably double the damage of most skills to bring her on par with striker ! It really isnt good. 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 27. Jun 2022, 20:25 (UTC)
# 8
On: Jun 27, 2022, 20:01 (UTC), Written by Potato

Main source of income is players paying to play OP class, what balance anyone expect ?

This is just wrong. PA loses way more money from players leaving because they have no hope for their main to be playable again. PA is losing from the lack of a balance team.

Also, for example, why should a sage, corsair, or tamer players whale on the game if they will just lose anyway because they're playing against a god class.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 27. Jun 2022, 20:57 (UTC)
# 9
On: Jun 27, 2022, 20:23 (UTC), Written by Eldur

This is just wrong. PA loses way more money from players leaving because they have no hope for their main to be playable again. PA is losing from the lack of a balance team.

Also, for example, why should a sage, corsair, or tamer players whale on the game if they will just lose anyway because they're playing against a god class.

Sage, corsair each had their time when they was FOTM and ruined other players game. They are no longer new class so they got axed. PA makes money by forcing players to reroll so they buy the conviniences again and again.

The game would be better without FOTM for the players.... but PA would not make more money. You can clearly check it from the charts tho. New class releases give a momentary hype, but if you leave those spikes, the playerbase declines as players gettign bored doing the same thing over and over again.

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 28. Jun 2022, 00:57 (UTC)
# 10
On: Jun 27, 2022, 18:58 (UTC), Written by DukeMon

Also can't help but mention how easy it'll be to get good balancing feedback as opposed to the drivel often found on Reddit: Ask your BDO partners and content creator...most have been playing the game for so long they have a good idea of the strenghts and weaknesses of all classes.  

Yes because they are never biased towards their own classes nor have their own agenda right? 

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