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make Pearls Marketable instead of pearl items!
09. Aug 2022, 16:54 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 09. Aug 2022, 16:54 (UTC)
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Free to player players have no hope of ever having a blessing of kamasylvia, book of old moon, and a value pack active at the same time because value packs do not sell on the market at a decent rate.. the predicted time to buy a value pack is 33 days? of keeping a constant pre order on it, and its possible to get unlucky and go for months and months without getting one, i had a pre order on a value pack for 5 months and never got one. Pearl Abyss would make so much more money if they would just make Pearls marketable isntead of pearl items, and the playerbase would be happier for it as well

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 09. Aug 2022, 17:48 (UTC)
# 2

good idea

will never happen sadly

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Aug 2022, 02:11 (UTC)
# 3

Wouldn't the demand for pearls be much greater than the demand for pearl items, though?  Since there will be things people want to buy that are not currently sellable on the MP, like the tent, storage slots, maids and the functional outfits?

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Aug 2022, 07:14 (UTC)
# 4

The reason why buffs like Kama blessing etc arent sold is because the pearl to silver ratio is generally much much worse than it is for outfits. That means the incentive to buy and list this items is simply not there. For OP to be able to get any "pearls" from the market, the pearl/silver ratio would have to be competitive with outfits as well. 

However, directly selling currencly on the market has some unsavory implications, so I doubt this will happen. Instead, my personal preference would be A) Making most or almost all Pearl items market-listable and B) increasing the silver price of other pearl items to match outfit pearl/silver ratios. 

Otherwise, it will stay in the way that only premium outfits ever get sold. While I think these should still be the majority (due to the implications the removal of outfit crons would have on a lot of people), the malus in instead trading other items should not be as large as it is right now.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Aug 2022, 07:24 (UTC)
# 5
On: Aug 9, 2022, 16:54 (UTC), Written by AngelsSaber

predicted time to buy a value pack is 33 days? 

I have not been able to buy a horse whistle for 3 years.

On: Aug 10, 2022, 07:14 (UTC), Written by Minarya

directly selling currencly on the market has some unsavory implications,

What kind? In other games, this is not a problem.

Just need to add the monthly limit of pearls you can buy with silver and the problem is solved.

P2W system in BDO is so bad precisely because many items are locked behind a p2w wall in IS with no free in-game option or this option is a mockery / not a funny joke, like for a eg. "free" tent.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Aug 2022, 10:40 (UTC)
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On: Aug 10, 2022, 07:14 (UTC), Written by Minarya

The reason why buffs like Kama blessing etc arent sold is because the pearl to silver ratio is generally much much worse than it is for outfits. That means the incentive to buy and list this items is simply not there. For OP to be able to get any "pearls" from the market, the pearl/silver ratio would have to be competitive with outfits as well. 

However, directly selling currencly on the market has some unsavory implications, so I doubt this will happen. Instead, my personal preference would be A) Making most or almost all Pearl items market-listable and B) increasing the silver price of other pearl items to match outfit pearl/silver ratios. 

Otherwise, it will stay in the way that only premium outfits ever get sold. While I think these should still be the majority (due to the implications the removal of outfit crons would have on a lot of people), the malus in instead trading other items should not be as large as it is right now.

Kinda funny as majority of the ppl who I know get their kama blessing off market.

They might have worse silver/pearl ratio, but have it boundled/on sale with items regularly.

As for the pearl/silver ratio, while it would be good for the F2P players, they aren't randomly have worse ratio, but to encourage the whales to buy the higher cost items and sell them, hence increase their profit.

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Aug 2022, 12:42 (UTC)
# 7

Financially this is a bad idea and they know this. If you can't get your outfit or whatever from the CM then you give up and buy it in the pearl shop. You're competing against people who will most likely melt the outfit to gamble it (and lose) to the RNG machine. I can't see this being a rational feature implemented in the game because it would very likely take away from their profits considerably. Not saying that I wouldn't like to just get pearls on the CM, but I don't see it being a viable thing to do.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 11. Aug 2022, 17:05 (UTC)
# 8
On: Aug 10, 2022, 12:40 (UTC), Written by Tooshaitopost

Financially this is a bad idea and they know this. If you can't get your outfit or whatever from the CM then you give up and buy it in the pearl shop. You're competing against people who will most likely melt the outfit to gamble it (and lose) to the RNG machine. I can't see this being a rational feature implemented in the game because it would very likely take away from their profits considerably. Not saying that I wouldn't like to just get pearls on the CM, but I don't see it being a viable thing to do.

Quite the opposite, if you buy pearls with silver from other players in-game through an exchange of some sort, there would be an increase in overall Pearl shop visits which would on average net them more sales.

This idea from the OP is very smart for both PA and the players, it would increase the game's accessibility for people from eastern Europe and other poor nations because the highly desirable "niche" items that are not in-game achievable through the central market such as the tent and weight capacity. Would become achievable for the full f2p players.

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 11. Aug 2022, 18:27 (UTC)
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On: Aug 11, 2022, 17:05 (UTC), Written by Shakatu

Quite the opposite, if you buy pearls with silver from other players in-game through an exchange of some sort, there would be an increase in overall Pearl shop visits which would on average net them more sales.

This idea from the OP is very smart for both PA and the players, it would increase the game's accessibility for people from eastern Europe and other poor nations because the highly desirable "niche" items that are not in-game achievable through the central market such as the tent and weight capacity. Would become achievable for the full f2p players.

no this is a bad idea from pa side of view and it's really easy to see.

players can be easily categorized into 3 categorys- whales, f2p, and the ones that don't mind paying for convenience items they can't get without paying.

whales will continue to list costumes/pearls this will not change. there will still be a listing limit and i really hope that does not change. f2p players will remain f2p, maybe more f2p will join which again is not good because they take server space and not pay and you really can't be naive enough to think that maybe a change like this will make them think to actually support the game financially.

the only change is that the people in between that don't mind paying for unobtainable conveniences like the unmarketable tent for 60 bucks, hundreds in weight and fairy stuff, naders band, and the basically unbuyable vp for 15 bucks a month will now also become fully f2p. gj you lost a market lol

every suggestion promotes that it'll bring a lot of players into the game but realistically the amount of players that'll join is more than most likely insignificant and either way having more f2p players really isn't in PA's agenda, even if it pumps up player numbers. 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 11. Aug 2022, 19:20 (UTC)
# 10
On: Aug 11, 2022, 18:20 (UTC), Written by asdsadfas

no this is a bad idea from pa side of view and it's really easy to see.

players can be easily categorized into 3 categorys- whales, f2p, and the ones that don't mind paying for convenience items they can't get without paying.

whales will continue to list costumes/pearls this will not change. there will still be a listing limit and i really hope that does not change. f2p players will remain f2p, maybe more f2p will join which again is not good because they take server space and not pay and you really can't be naive enough to think that maybe a change like this will make them think to actually support the game financially.

the only change is that the people in between that don't mind paying for unobtainable conveniences like the unmarketable tent for 60 bucks, hundreds in weight and fairy stuff, naders band, and the basically unbuyable vp for 15 bucks a month will now also become fully f2p. gj you lost a market lol

every suggestion promotes that it'll bring a lot of players into the game but realistically the amount of players that'll join is more than most likely insignificant and either way having more f2p players really isn't in PA's agenda, even if it pumps up player numbers. 

I know 2 people that do not play this game because they are poor and can not afford the tent and weight. This decision would ultimately improve the game for the players and sure it might or might not hurt PA's financials, I would bet on it not to hurt them at all, because I think alleviating the intrusive MTX system they have in the game would turn more new players into regular players which would keep them playing which would make them potentially spend money in the future.

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