Just by switching the pvp activation from lvl 49 to a Gear Score threshold, we could solve some problems. 

That way, you could go level 61, even 62, keep that character as a lifeskiller, but not be able to grind on the high level spots with an unfair protection.

It could even create a new evolution in the gathering system : you could safely collect some resources on inanimate objects, but gatherable mobs would give high quality ressources. Some spots would be full of these mobs, high level ones, so if you want to gather these ressources, you'd have to get a better gear and so, activate your pvp.

I also liked to idea I read some time ago (I don't remember where I read it and who said it, sorry), about being able to equip both a combat gear and a lifeskill one.

In fact, as BDO is blending every aspect, BDO should allow us to : 

- equip both a combat gear and a lifeskill one. 

- register pvp add-ons and pve add-ons, which would be activated depending on our target. 

Since the No PVP Server thread is trending, I'm bumping this to the first page of the forum posts.  The solution proposed here, I strongly believe, is a good one.  They gave us Marni's realm, so they can give us a temporary PK shield.

The playerbase should not be split.  Otherwise it would just be Arsha and PVE.  

They would have to add some kind of cooldown timer or some kind of mechanic if you can swap gear for protection because unfortunately this opens up to easy griefing. It's not a bad idea but if it oculd be thought out more thoroughly, it could make this whole thing easier to deal with.

I'm not sure I've been clear when I see your answer... 

The system would be the same as before, only the trigger would change : instead of being activated when you want to get to level 50, it would be activated when you try to equip a gear making you go above a decided threshold (550 GS for example? ).

But once you activate it on a character, you can't go back. 

Sorry for the delayed response, long weekend :)

I understand what you mean now and I'm sure that could work to an extent and after thinking about it there are two reasons why I (personally) would rather that not be the case and here's why.

Reason #1: Because I'd like to use my main as the same character as lifeskilling. I want to be able to have that luxury of training my horse or whatever with the same character I go slay garmoth with. The moment the equipment is equipped, that's it, no return. So I have to use my alt clone to do it regardless.

Reason #2: It could potentially encourage a wider range of griefing. This is a big MAYBE if someone manages to figure out how to go about it in a certain way, I think hunter's clothes gives really good DP and if you combine that with being a level 62 character, you might be able to get away with mob feeding if you're skilled enough. You could also just inerrupt people's rotations which wouldn't be very sportsmanlike but of course if the equipment is low level enough it would be mostly limited to level < 49 monsters. You could probably eat that one buff that gives you like +1000 defense.

It could work but my main concern is reason #1, not so much reason #2 since I can see that as being very difficult to achieve and would probably be very rare. Other people might not care so much though so your idea would work for those people.

Also, grinding sea monsters is not lifeskilling.

This is a very well thought-out idea OP. This way, there's no need for "PvE" servers and basically lifeskillers, to an extend, can safely do certain afk activities such as training outside safe zones.

Although, there are certain lifeskills (trading/bartering) in which trade items that you carry can break on PvP/E death. So basically by activating this feature those lifeskills can be instantly abused since you're basically avoiding all the risk. I do think that there has to be a balance, for example not being able to activate this mode if you carry trade/barter items, those lifeskills are supposed to have a risk. If you don't feel safe doing trading, you can always get some help from a friend/guildie to escord your wagon/ship to the destination.

Yet again, well thought out post! +1

Well to be honest I upvoted your post.

However it's not because of all the criterias you proposed, I don't believe much in them. I mostly supported the possibility of lifeskilling in peace.

BUT!

There's a parameter I often mention in similar threads, the fact that in Arsha, you have a boost for lifeskilling.

Also, on normal servers, you gain better (xp and money) out of safe zones.

It's the purpose of an open pvxvp game: if you take risks, you deserve to gain more!

And I can only agree with that.

I often say it too: I fish out of safe zone, sometimes actively, sometimes afk. I earn a lot that way and serisouly, even if I'm for creating a peaceful alternative for lifeskillers, I know I won't use it much, because the logic would make those servers earn less XP and less money as there's no risk. So the same rule would apply for a dedicated lifeskiller who can play in peace.

For exemple, why would we deserve to fish yellow fishes when the whole place is safe? It's like at Heidel: you don't deserve to earn more than green fishes if you are safe.

So, if you gain less xp (and money) as a lifeskiller, I'm not sure that alternative would interest many players.

OR - and I suggest that just for the sake of argument - characters who are dedicated to lifeskill should not have the right to swap to pvp at all, neither to get upgraded skills (the higher ones of Succession or Awakening), only the normal ones to gather on ressources mobs and do lifeskill quests.

I'm sorry, it's not at all your way. I'm a lifeskiller though, and I keep my upvote on ur post because I understand what you're trying to do and it's well intended, but only toward one part of lifeskillers.

Seriously, I think PA made a great system with the most deservable players taking risks. I enjoy taking it and if I die... well I die. It's the game.

There you go, you wanted an opinion. Maybe not the one you wanted.

Yes, everything you say makes sense and I can understand where you're coming from, I just personally disagree. I feel like we already have all the tools we need. You can V and run away, you can hotkey Escape > Escape, and you can now swap around multiple guild servers without penalty or lockout timer. Alternatively, you could switch to a tagged combat character and try to fight back. You can enlist the aid of friends and guild members. You can try to reason with the other party. You can also remain lvl 49 (PA MUST add a way to disable the lvl 50 spam notification). The world is your oyster. I think all of these are more preferable than a lifeskill invulnerability shield.

Since bartering has come up multiple times I'll address that directly. If this lifeskill toggle were implemented, I don't think a single ship would be sunk ever again outside the very small window before/after Vell and Khan, and I think that'd be a bad thing.

I downvoted you, because:

1. a character should be able to both lifeskill and combat, that's what the hero fantasy is all about - "family" and using toons as tools doesn't speak to some

2. I'm not aware of any lifeskill that would clearly work in a way you described - "less rewards in safezones, more outside". Best fishing spots - mostly Velia Beach cause a lot of red fish, Heidel, cause lots of relics. Whenever I fish outside safezones, I usually end up with some trashy yellows.

Training? Well, yeah, that's a good example actually. Training in safezones hampers the speed severely. But in this case the question is - do we really want to keep the cities overloaded with trainers who keep bumping in us and provide us with severe fps drops?

Any relevant gathering is only in unsafe zones.

Hunting - same thing.

If they ever rework the lifeskill risks vs rewards as you describe it, so you actually do have a viable choice between risk and higher reward and no risk and lower reward, sure - I'll agree with you. But in the current state of the game it just doesn't work.