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Death of world pvp
16. Aug 2023, 22:14 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 24. Aug 2023, 19:12 (UTC)
# 22
On: Aug 18, 2023, 22:36 (UTC), Written by Sophisticusx

The private Archeage Classic server is good until now. Lets see how it goes. I just can wait for Ashes of Creation, Mortal Online 2 or Archeage 2. If they full release and work good then all the "harasser", "bullys" and some more will be gone from BDO. I just can hope that this carebears dont follow to this game, like any other MMORPG.

BDO have quality but not the vision for ow pvp anymore. I dont think this rework will ever happen.

Oh, the carebears will flood into those games.  You can bet on that.  Just enjoy those games before the carebears flood in and demand changes to suit them, like they've done in BDO.

Remember that gaming is profit-fueled, so anything that devs see that has the most potential to make the most money, they will do it.  And the genre of MMO BDO was, unfortunately, very niche.  It made them a bunch of money, letting PA separate from Kakao and letting them develop more games, but they've since made BDO more appealing to mainstream audiences and this, yes, includes, catering to "carebears". 

I agree, BDO will never return to its former glory, which includes, killing of fopen world PvP and player vs player disputes in the open world in favor of a less-stressful single player experience for casual and carebear players, which I'm starting to belive encompass the majority of the playerbase.  It's a pretty solid single-player grinder, there's lots of things to dabble in, very gorgeous world, still the best graphics in an MMO and the best action combat, and there's still some PvP to be enjoyed (via instances), but the organic, player-driven PvP...yeah man.  It simply isn't the same (for better or for worse).

I'm really hoping Ashes of Creation is good.  It's my last hope for a truly good sandbox MMO experience.  If not, whatever, it's just video gaming (entertainment).

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 26. Aug 2023, 13:00 (UTC)
# 23

I think a good solution is to turn 5 servers (more if they actually become popular) into non-karma loss servers but with out loot buff unlike arsha.

The catch is, those servers will be about regulated open world pvp and here are the rules (enforced by the server of course):

1) obviously no karma loss on pvp kill/dmg.

2) second pvp death in row will force the player to respawn in the city, if the city is to close to the area by X distance, respawn in a different city.

3) no penalties to pve death, this will motivate players to grind there even at high end spot with out the fear of accidental or intentional pve death that is caused by other players. Alternatively, could make it also that if someone hit you in the last 10 seconds, it would count as his kill (exclusively to those servers).

4)elion tears (either from consumable or fairy) are not usable there if it was a pvp death.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 26. Aug 2023, 15:31 (UTC)
# 24

*The mind of the BDO griefer*

Then: I don't grief, xx player hopped in my rotation, so I killed them.

Now: Marni realm and all these other changes ruin open world pvp(Even though they no longer have to worry about xx player stealing mobs from their rotation). Open world pvp (griefing) is dead.

Sane players: There is always arsha, it doesn't have any of those problems.

Bdo Griefer: The problem with arsha is that you can't grind without being interrupted every 10mins (aka they don't want to pvp those who want to pvp and out gear them).


Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 26. Aug 2023, 16:06 (UTC)
# 25
On: Aug 26, 2023, 14:04 (UTC), Written by Vanraven

*The mind of the BDO griefer*

Then: I don't grief, xx player hopped in my rotation, so I killed them.

Now: Marni realm and all these other changes ruin open world pvp(Even though they no longer have to worry about xx player stealing mobs from their rotation). Open world pvp (griefing) is dead.

Sane players: There is always arsha, it doesn't have any of those problems.

Bdo Griefer: The problem with arsha is that you can't grind without being interrupted every 10mins (aka they don't want to pvp those who want to pvp and out gear them).

PvPvE players : why can't we have a proper regulated owpvp on regular channels ? 

Biased people always forget us. But yeah, it's easier to take shortcuts in a discussion. 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 02. Sep 2023, 00:26 (UTC)
# 26

Sad thoughs, complaining about channels tho ? Don't give a s***

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 02. Sep 2023, 11:35 (UTC)
# 27
Écrit le : 26 août 2023, 14:04 (UTC), par : Vanraven

*The mind of the BDO griefer*

Then: I don't grief, xx player hopped in my rotation, so I killed them.

Now: Marni realm and all these other changes ruin open world pvp(Even though they no longer have to worry about xx player stealing mobs from their rotation). Open world pvp (griefing) is dead.

Sane players: There is always arsha, it doesn't have any of those problems.

Bdo Griefer: The problem with arsha is that you can't grind without being interrupted every 10mins (aka they don't want to pvp those who want to pvp and out gear them).

🤣

Lv Privat
Clujin
Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 02. Sep 2023, 18:01 (UTC)
# 28
On: Aug 26, 2023, 14:04 (UTC), Written by Vanraven

*The mind of the BDO griefer*

Then: I don't grief, xx player hopped in my rotation, so I killed them.

Now: Marni realm and all these other changes ruin open world pvp(Even though they no longer have to worry about xx player stealing mobs from their rotation). Open world pvp (griefing) is dead.

Sane players: There is always arsha, it doesn't have any of those problems.

Bdo Griefer: The problem with arsha is that you can't grind without being interrupted every 10mins (aka they don't want to pvp those who want to pvp and out gear them).


Its funny that so called players never been on Arsha. If they they would know that doing PvP non stop for spot wont give you anytrash. But yea people like to talk without any knowledge.

For proper PvPvE server there should be rules. Now PvPvE expirience is ruined, but atleast no one should complain that spot is bussy...

Carebears paradise.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 03. Sep 2023, 07:25 (UTC)
# 29
Écrit le : 2 sept. 2023, 18:01 (UTC), par : IWalkAlone

Its funny that so called players never been on Arsha. If they they would know that doing PvP non stop for spot wont give you anytrash. But yea people like to talk without any knowledge.

For proper PvPvE server there should be rules. Now PvPvE expirience is ruined, but atleast no one should complain that spot is bussy...

Carebears paradise.

Its funny that i've never saw the "pvpve" community request to either have arsha rules changes to fit their"pvpve" vision, either request to have a arsha-like channel(s) with the pvpve rules suitable to this community liking.

As it's clear, given incoming changes, BDO developper will never make the entier game submit to owpvp rules like you seem to desire.

You then have one possibility left, and who know many that special pvpve channel will work so well that it will make bdo devs review their position.

Lv Privat
Clujin
Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 03. Sep 2023, 09:16 (UTC)
# 30

All those cowards with 750 GS on centaurs, I will allways karma bomb them, I  have plenty of elion tears. Remove pvp from game. 

You cant flag on anyone due to karma, so pvp basicaly doesnt exist, only if you run into those pathetic 750GS morons who think they own the server.

Majority of normal players dont bother with pvp and rather change server. 

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