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Please stop forcing PvP
Jul 16, 2021, 20:03 (UTC)
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# 11
Am 30. Jul 2022, 20:03 (UTC), von Senemedar

Game is meant to be what the players want and the players DO NOT WANT OPEN PVP. Deal with it.

not only what the player want, but also what the Dev´s want. at least i want open world pvp. ultimately i just want mention that ur wishes can damage my game experience, if PA listen to u. I dont unterstand why u stay with this game, when there are a lot of other MMO´s that offers ur needs. Guild Wars 2, New World, World of Warcraf, Final Fantasy 14, Lost Ark, The Elder Scrolls Online ect. All very good PvE Theme Park MMO´s. For me, as a Sandbox PvX player i have what? BDO, Archeage (a dead game) and Mortal Online 2 (that is realisticly´in early access), thats it i guess. at least if we look at modern MMO´s. 

Why do you think this game is dead?

Why 99% of new players leave in the first month?

i dont think that the game is dead. wtf, BDO is so popular today in comparison to the times with Kakao Games. Idk where u have this numbers from.

I think most of the new players leave the game because of a lot of complicated systems that dont feel good for them. like the upgrade system.

And open World pvp is not fun for new player because this is just a one shot fiesta. the power scaling is just too extreme.

Last Edit : Jul 30, 2022, 22:00 (UTC)
# 12

I think this "The game should be what the players want" is very wrong. If a game is only based on the opinion of the mass, then every game will soon feel the same. Just play the games that are already as you want instead of changing something that doesn't want to be like that. This destroys the diversity of the genre.

Last Edit : Jul 31, 2022, 05:53 (UTC)
# 13

Game is meant to be what the players want and the players want open world pvp. Deal with it.

Last Edit : Jul 31, 2022, 08:44 (UTC)
# 14

I agree that the "go over 50" notification is annoying. I strongly disagree with having PvE servers and other "PvE only" nonsense. The game is meant to be PvX and should stay that way. My only PvP experience so far is getting my characters killed. It doesn't happen often. Open world PvP is the main reason for player to player interaction and communication in this game. Remove that you basically kill the game. Most of the people I play with are against the Marni's realm and I can see their point of view. Marni's realm is more than enough. 

The game is not designed around PvE only gameplay. Pushing for PvE only options will solve non of your issues, it will create even more.

You don't go play chess and whine about the opponent taking your pieces off the board. You don't try to make the game more inclusive. You don't like it - you don't play it. The owPvP didn't just appear all of a sudden. You find a way to deal with it or move on. Quit trying to break the game.

Last Edit : Jul 31, 2022, 15:56 (UTC)
# 15
On: Jul 30, 2022, 20:03 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Game is meant to be what the players want and the players DO NOT WANT OPEN PVP. Deal with it.

Why do you think this game is dead?

Why 99% of new players leave in the first month?

What do those who want to come back ask?

Do open pvp finally removed.

You want pvp? You have a lot pvp content. You can pvp 24/7:

- arscha

- arena

- node war

- any many others modes ESPECIALLY for pvp.

PA earn "pennies" on p2w that ate its own tail, instead of making a fortune on ... increasing playability.

The simple fact that BDO is several year old proves you wrong. 

Last Edit : Jul 31, 2022, 21:51 (UTC)
# 16

The best way to solve this problem is - i guess - a bounty hunter system. so if ur tired of getting killed, then ask PA for this. This would give players a meaningfull interaction that helps all of us. Its also in the vision of a Sandbox PvX MMO and is damn fun i think :D

Last Edit : Jul 31, 2022, 23:25 (UTC)
# 17

The penalties for unwanted pvp are quite high and justified.  I've rarely had problems with being randomly killed.  I don't see this as a major issue.

Last Edit : Jul 31, 2022, 23:48 (UTC)
# 18
Écrit le : 30 juil. 2022, 20:03 (UTC), par : Senemedar

Game is meant to be what the players want and the players DO NOT WANT OPEN PVP. Deal with it.

Why do you think this game is dead?

Why 99% of new players leave in the first month?

What do those who want to come back ask?

Do open pvp finally removed.

You want pvp? You have a lot pvp content. You can pvp 24/7:

- arscha

- arena

- node war

- any many others modes ESPECIALLY for pvp.

PA earn "pennies" on p2w that ate its own tail, instead of making a fortune on ... increasing playability.

Players leave because they eventually undertsand that the only thing BDO actually has to offer is the most alienating form of looping gamedesign : grinding the same standing still braindead AI with no challenge, without the real qualities of the best musous despite "action combat", aka PvE, or interacting with the same objects on  a loop with one button like in a mobile game, aka lifeskills, all of that for thousands of hours with almost no variation. Add RNG everywhere to give a false sense of accomplishment when you "beat the odds" and a quite aggressive monetisation model and you're done.

PvP is actually the only thing that, for maybe less than 5 % of the total hours spent on the game, breaks this loop, and the main resaon why whales are whalin'.

Last Edit : Aug 1, 2022, 06:36 (UTC)
# 19
On: Jul 31, 2022, 15:56 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

The simple fact that BDO is several year old proves you wrong. 

The simple fact that BDO is several year old dead game makes it true.

Have the PA take up the challenge and put player counter in game?

Also let them show percentage of how long the players have been playing.

And funny fact: bla bla bla "most of the players use luncher". And now we jump to Steam where are many more comments in steam community forum than here in the official forum. And that's not all. On steam community forum even GMs speak very often.

Last Edit : Aug 1, 2022, 09:46 (UTC)
# 20
On: Jul 30, 2022, 20:03 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Game is meant to be what the players want and the players DO NOT WANT OPEN PVP. Deal with it.

Why do you think this game is dead? Do you think I believe you? Obvious facts show an entirely different picture.

Why 99% of new players leave in the first month? Did you ask them yourself? An obvious lie, based on a bias.

What do those who want to come back ask? They want the game to be suitable to their personal needs, without asking the other group what they want. Add the fact, ignoring on what ideas is the game based on.

Do open pvp finally removed.

You want pvp? You have a lot pvp content. You can pvp 24/7:

- arscha

- arena

- node war

- any many others modes ESPECIALLY for pvp.

PA earn "pennies" on p2w that ate its own tail, instead of making a fortune on ... increasing playability.

And I want open world PvP, as it is meant to be in the game from it's very beginning. BDO is and was always PvX(or as some say PvPvE). Deal with it.

Did you ask me, what I want or what I don't want? :) No.

Asking PvP to be removed is just going to do more harm than good. I am not going to repeat what other posters already wrote here. Seriously. Stop the delusions that player numbers will increase. On the contrary. Much more players would leave than other players, whom want to get back. Solve a problem by an unbiased mind.

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