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The Atroraxxion dungeon was not a fun experince and issues with PVE
Jul 22, 2021, 17:42 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jul 22, 2021, 17:42 (UTC)
# 1

Before I start I would like to  say everything I am going to say will  be based on personal experincs and is in no way to be used to bash or attack Peral Abyss team or Black Desert online this is purely for the hopes of them listening and fixing things.

 I would like to start off by saying that the concept of the dungeon and the whole idea of it was really fun. It was fun to have the community come together and do things like puzzles and killing monsters together so we can all advance to the next part. Even though you can pvp in the dungeon nobody flagged on each other or did the infamous yet dumb duel for spot. There was some dueling but it was only meant to past the time to  wait until someone figures out how to get thru the puzzle.  I think if they fix this and do things correctly it can be the greatest thing to happen to Black Desert Online. Because right now besides memeing in world chat or server chat the game is very anti social. Most people just join guilds to boast their egos or to try to get some sort of protection or buffs. Guild chats are empty and dry a long with the discords and people barely interact with other people in this game unless it involes them just being toxic to one another. I truely think the game needs more group content if you look at MMOs as a whole the Themeparks with tons of group content end up being more popular then Sandboxes that barely have any group content I mean look at Elder Scrolls Online a Sandbox mmo with dungeons that anyone around the world can jump into like in Atoraxxion. I not understand why pearl abyss staff are scared of group content or even play their game or others  they should take some influence from MMOs and  twist it into their own way. 

Now its time to talk about the bad of Atroraxxion. So  first off lets start with the fact you can loss exp and crystals in the dungeon expect at the final boss. Why make it that you can loss hours of progress on death thru out the entire dungeon EXPECT for the final boss might as well  just make it where nobody losses anything at all or if they die enough times they get kicked from the dungeon entirely.  Plus when you add on how diffcult the area is and I like diffcult games I mean I played Demon Souls and Dark Souls and Sekiro for fun and found them some times to be relaxing but the one thing I hate and find outrageous is when game devs try to put in fake diffculties. I will give you a prime example of my personal experince last night. I play warrior sometimes I bounce between awakened warrior and Succssion Warrior because I have a Pen Kzarka and a Pen Dandi so I can do that with no worry about my damage. I mostly been playing Succession Warrior because after years of smacking people and monsters with a greatsword I got bored of it. Succession Warrior is more tanky then Awakened Warrior as they have a stronger block that last longer  and get more dp the more you hit them on block plus the aoe 20dp buff you give your allies who are near you on block. I did the normal version  which requires a min amount of 320 dp I am 324 dp. I will bring up why I am only bringing up dp and not ap or anything else in a second.  Okay so I`m 324dp right on block I gain 20dp  plus I gain 5 dp per attack blocked up to a max of 50dp so that is an extra 70 dp right putting me at 394dp if when blocking right and the party of people I went with who had way higher dp then me. You would think hey a warrior  with a lot of dp should be able to take a hit right plus I had a zerker with full tet black star armor and a mystc who had close to 380 dp ( she was like the only one who never died) were all suppose to be able to take a hit right. Sadly no besides the Mystic who was over geared and should have been on the elvia version everyone in my party got blown up. Now your wondering how does a warrior who has super armor on block get blown up. Well you ever been to turos or done a world boss. You ever had a monster just igrone any protections you had on a skill. Well thats is what happened to me and thats what I mean by fake diffculties. They never melted my block to be honest the meter barely when down. But i would get stunned or  knocked down on block or when useing super armor moves and it was not only happening to me it was happening to everyone else I spoke to about this. This is a known issue for a while with other area of  PVE in the game some world bosses do it. If you ever grind turos they have a habit of sometimes doing it but if that is their way of making things hard. Its  just wrong let me explain most games  reward players for playing their class correctly. I am pretty sure a lot of you have seen games where people have done no hit runs in games because people master the way to play that game . In BDO I feel like thats not the case because in certain areas of the game you can play your class perfectly and still get punished like in the duegon. Also it is a huge problem to that people are dying extremely fast despite having the gear to take the hit  or not get blown up well are suppose to because one cc and your dead. 


Lastly in  A DUNGEON YOU GRIND AND GET REWARDS NOT GRIND TO GET TO THE REWARDS! Why do we have to do a long long grind for small rewards where in other games while you grind or do the dungeon you get rewards a long the way then to get the party pots we have to use the items the fangs that we need to progress anyways it makes no sense its not worth it  and honestly not fun. Plus the bugs are no excuse the dungeon has been out for quite some time now in KR. Is it that nobody in KR played it so they were not able to troubleshoot it ?

Well thanks for reading I do hope they change  the dungeon or fix things since PA has a habit of taking things in the game and getting rid of it just to add something else.  Pearl Abyss this game could be the best MMO ever start putting effort into it. Thank you

Last Edit : Jul 22, 2021, 21:24 (UTC)
# 2

This illustrates one of the reasons I never wanted to see a dungeon.  In every other game, dungeons became mandatory content to compete in game.  Already, we are seeing people complain that the rewards aren't good enough.  SOon it will be a tsunami demanding BIS gear.

Many of us cannot do these dungeons because of the time commitment needed to stay at the keyboard.  If the complainers succeed, non dungeon people will become second class citizens.

Last Edit : Jul 22, 2021, 21:49 (UTC)
# 3

I am kinda at a lose here...

 

Everyone wanted group content, something challenging but not to difficult that it is uncompletable.

Everyone wanted somewhat that was NOT just grinding but a mix.. 

 

NOTHING in Attoraxion gives a peice of gear that is BIS, nothing in Attoraxion gives a major advantage. NO major cash, drops, just simply something to do that takes a group of players to work together and have fun in game.

In my opinion PA nailed it, can you makeover sure. Again that's not the point Attoraxion is for those that want something different to do a new experience.

 

This was not supposed to be easy, I am 401Dp on my mystic and non elvia servers still do damage and to be honest with you your comment on how that mystic is over geared and should be on elvia not correct. Why would I risk my gear without understanding the mechanics?

 

They may adjust drop rates and cash along with gear in up coming additions to Attoraxion. But it's always funny to watch people complain when they are given group content with limited rewards and act like it is not good enough. In the end people don't want group content they just want to be lazy and leach off others to make money and gains. If it was about group content only then we have no problem here becouse with your GS its obvious you are not ready for this content.

Last Edit : Jul 22, 2021, 22:45 (UTC)
# 4
On: Jul 22, 2021, 21:49 (UTC), Written by ReconKangas

I am kinda at a lose here...

 

Everyone wanted group content, something challenging but not to difficult that it is uncompletable.

Everyone wanted somewhat that was NOT just grinding but a mix.. 

 

NOTHING in Attoraxion gives a peice of gear that is BIS, nothing in Attoraxion gives a major advantage. NO major cash, drops, just simply something to do that takes a group of players to work together and have fun in game.

In my opinion PA nailed it, can you makeover sure. Again that's not the point Attoraxion is for those that want something different to do a new experience.

 

This was not supposed to be easy, I am 401Dp on my mystic and non elvia servers still do damage and to be honest with you your comment on how that mystic is over geared and should be on elvia not correct. Why would I risk my gear without understanding the mechanics?

 

They may adjust drop rates and cash along with gear in up coming additions to Attoraxion. But it's always funny to watch people complain when they are given group content with limited rewards and act like it is not good enough. In the end people don't want group content they just want to be lazy and leach off others to make money and gains. If it was about group content only then we have no problem here becouse with your GS its obvious you are not ready for this content.

PA did not nail it.......

 

1. This should have been instanced group content similar to altar of blood.

2. This should have been a fun weekly thing you can do to progress your character up ( lots of Caphras fit the bill) ( lower gear entries) and for higher gear it should give something rewarding weekly as well.
3. PVP should have had no part in it.

4. The AI is still braindead and they didnt even try to make this challenging......

 

They needed to nail this dungeon and they failed miserably. And you know what they will do they will say people dont do it and remove it and never make another one because they are just as incompetent as blizzard. They dont know how to balance, they dont know how to add content, and they absolutely don't know why it is people do dungeons and enjoy them in other MMOs. 

 

And the one thing that will forever hold this game back from being worth playing anymore is the damn enhance system that limits your progression to the point it takes months for 1 new piece of gear and that theres no longer a reason to chase the gear when the game is a unbalanced mess of pointless things to do and very little things that reward you for your time. Most of the marketplace in terms of gear has gear that no one will ever use ever again because of Season and this makes all those zones that stuff drop not even worth going to . Most of the map has no content anymore because of this.

 

Last Edit : Jul 22, 2021, 22:46 (UTC)
# 5
On: Jul 22, 2021, 17:42 (UTC), Written by Taquain

Before I start I would like to  say everything I am going to say will  be based on personal experincs and is in no way to be used to bash or attack Peral Abyss team or Black Desert online this is purely for the hopes of them listening and fixing things.

 I would like to start off by saying that the concept of the dungeon and the whole idea of it was really fun. It was fun to have the community come together and do things like puzzles and killing monsters together so we can all advance to the next part. Even though you can pvp in the dungeon nobody flagged on each other or did the infamous yet dumb duel for spot. There was some dueling but it was only meant to past the time to  wait until someone figures out how to get thru the puzzle.  I think if they fix this and do things correctly it can be the greatest thing to happen to Black Desert Online. Because right now besides memeing in world chat or server chat the game is very anti social. Most people just join guilds to boast their egos or to try to get some sort of protection or buffs. Guild chats are empty and dry a long with the discords and people barely interact with other people in this game unless it involes them just being toxic to one another. I truely think the game needs more group content if you look at MMOs as a whole the Themeparks with tons of group content end up being more popular then Sandboxes that barely have any group content I mean look at Elder Scrolls Online a Sandbox mmo with dungeons that anyone around the world can jump into like in Atoraxxion. I not understand why pearl abyss staff are scared of group content or even play their game or others  they should take some influence from MMOs and  twist it into their own way. 

Now its time to talk about the bad of Atroraxxion. So  first off lets start with the fact you can loss exp and crystals in the dungeon expect at the final boss. Why make it that you can loss hours of progress on death thru out the entire dungeon EXPECT for the final boss might as well  just make it where nobody losses anything at all or if they die enough times they get kicked from the dungeon entirely.  Plus when you add on how diffcult the area is and I like diffcult games I mean I played Demon Souls and Dark Souls and Sekiro for fun and found them some times to be relaxing but the one thing I hate and find outrageous is when game devs try to put in fake diffculties. I will give you a prime example of my personal experince last night. I play warrior sometimes I bounce between awakened warrior and Succssion Warrior because I have a Pen Kzarka and a Pen Dandi so I can do that with no worry about my damage. I mostly been playing Succession Warrior because after years of smacking people and monsters with a greatsword I got bored of it. Succession Warrior is more tanky then Awakened Warrior as they have a stronger block that last longer  and get more dp the more you hit them on block plus the aoe 20dp buff you give your allies who are near you on block. I did the normal version  which requires a min amount of 320 dp I am 324 dp. I will bring up why I am only bringing up dp and not ap or anything else in a second.  Okay so I`m 324dp right on block I gain 20dp  plus I gain 5 dp per attack blocked up to a max of 50dp so that is an extra 70 dp right putting me at 394dp if when blocking right and the party of people I went with who had way higher dp then me. You would think hey a warrior  with a lot of dp should be able to take a hit right plus I had a zerker with full tet black star armor and a mystc who had close to 380 dp ( she was like the only one who never died) were all suppose to be able to take a hit right. Sadly no besides the Mystic who was over geared and should have been on the elvia version everyone in my party got blown up. Now your wondering how does a warrior who has super armor on block get blown up. Well you ever been to turos or done a world boss. You ever had a monster just igrone any protections you had on a skill. Well thats is what happened to me and thats what I mean by fake diffculties. They never melted my block to be honest the meter barely when down. But i would get stunned or  knocked down on block or when useing super armor moves and it was not only happening to me it was happening to everyone else I spoke to about this. This is a known issue for a while with other area of  PVE in the game some world bosses do it. If you ever grind turos they have a habit of sometimes doing it but if that is their way of making things hard. Its  just wrong let me explain most games  reward players for playing their class correctly. I am pretty sure a lot of you have seen games where people have done no hit runs in games because people master the way to play that game . In BDO I feel like thats not the case because in certain areas of the game you can play your class perfectly and still get punished like in the duegon. Also it is a huge problem to that people are dying extremely fast despite having the gear to take the hit  or not get blown up well are suppose to because one cc and your dead. 


Lastly in  A DUNGEON YOU GRIND AND GET REWARDS NOT GRIND TO GET TO THE REWARDS! Why do we have to do a long long grind for small rewards where in other games while you grind or do the dungeon you get rewards a long the way then to get the party pots we have to use the items the fangs that we need to progress anyways it makes no sense its not worth it  and honestly not fun. Plus the bugs are no excuse the dungeon has been out for quite some time now in KR. Is it that nobody in KR played it so they were not able to troubleshoot it ?

Well thanks for reading I do hope they change  the dungeon or fix things since PA has a habit of taking things in the game and getting rid of it just to add something else.  Pearl Abyss this game could be the best MMO ever start putting effort into it. Thank you

I mean with this games combat and visuals if they actually knew what people wanted and knew how to make a game it would be a top MMO even with some of the P2W elements. But they have no clue what they are doing..........

Last Edit : Jul 22, 2021, 23:02 (UTC)
# 6
On: Jul 22, 2021, 22:45 (UTC), Written by Easay9

PA did not nail it.......

 

1. This should have been instanced group content similar to altar of blood.

2. This should have been a fun weekly thing you can do to progress your character up ( lots of Caphras fit the bill) ( lower gear entries) and for higher gear it should give something rewarding weekly as well.
3. PVP should have had no part in it.

4. The AI is still braindead and they didnt even try to make this challenging......

 

They needed to nail this dungeon and they failed miserably. And you know what they will do they will say people dont do it and remove it and never make another one because they are just as incompetent as blizzard. They dont know how to balance, they dont know how to add content, and they absolutely don't know why it is people do dungeons and enjoy them in other MMOs. 

 

And the one thing that will forever hold this game back from being worth playing anymore is the damn enhance system that limits your progression to the point it takes months for 1 new piece of gear and that theres no longer a reason to chase the gear when the game is a unbalanced mess of pointless things to do and very little things that reward you for your time. Most of the marketplace in terms of gear has gear that no one will ever use ever again because of Season and this makes all those zones that stuff drop not even worth going to . Most of the map has no content anymore because of this.

 

Again bunch of self entitled Weenies...

 

Should of been a single instance dungeon... OOOOH PUMKIN need a tissue!!!!!

 

Should have made me a bunch of cash not worth the effort!!!!! Boohoo peanut want a binky....

 

ITS NOT WHAT BLIZZARD DID.... as you stomp your feet... maybe you just need some warm milk, num nums and a nap.

 

BDO is not WOW, FF14 or any other MMO you want to go raid pack your trash and go play another game obviously BDO will never cut the grade for you. 

They gave us there rendition of a dungeon, I personally like it and gives me something new to do with friends I play this game with.

It's not game breaking content required to make gear or some other over powered garbage its just something to have fun in and enjoy.

 

I sorry the concept eludes you..

Last Edit : Jul 22, 2021, 23:57 (UTC)
# 7
On: Jul 22, 2021, 23:02 (UTC), Written by ReconKangas

Again bunch of self entitled Weenies...

 

Should of been a single instance dungeon... OOOOH PUMKIN need a tissue!!!!!

 

Should have made me a bunch of cash not worth the effort!!!!! Boohoo peanut want a binky....

 

ITS NOT WHAT BLIZZARD DID.... as you stomp your feet... maybe you just need some warm milk, num nums and a nap.

 

BDO is not WOW, FF14 or any other MMO you want to go raid pack your trash and go play another game obviously BDO will never cut the grade for you. 

They gave us there rendition of a dungeon, I personally like it and gives me something new to do with friends I play this game with.

It's not game breaking content required to make gear or some other over powered garbage its just something to have fun in and enjoy.

 

I sorry the concept eludes you..

Found the fanboi whiteknight

 

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Last Edit : Jul 23, 2021, 01:17 (UTC)
# 8
On: Jul 22, 2021, 22:45 (UTC), Written by Easay9

PA did not nail it.......

 

1. This should have been instanced group content similar to altar of blood.

2. This should have been a fun weekly thing you can do to progress your character up ( lots of Caphras fit the bill) ( lower gear entries) and for higher gear it should give something rewarding weekly as well.
3. PVP should have had no part in it.

4. The AI is still braindead and they didnt even try to make this challenging......

 

They needed to nail this dungeon and they failed miserably. And you know what they will do they will say people dont do it and remove it and never make another one because they are just as incompetent as blizzard. They dont know how to balance, they dont know how to add content, and they absolutely don't know why it is people do dungeons and enjoy them in other MMOs. 

 

And the one thing that will forever hold this game back from being worth playing anymore is the damn enhance system that limits your progression to the point it takes months for 1 new piece of gear and that theres no longer a reason to chase the gear when the game is a unbalanced mess of pointless things to do and very little things that reward you for your time. Most of the marketplace in terms of gear has gear that no one will ever use ever again because of Season and this makes all those zones that stuff drop not even worth going to . Most of the map has no content anymore because of this.

 

no, you want a dungeon that can replace grinding so you don't have to worry about getting gear and just focus on dungeon then pvp like it's wow, go play wow.

 

On: Jul 22, 2021, 23:55 (UTC), Written by Bleach

Found the fanboi whiteknight

 

 

found a hater

Last Edit : Jul 23, 2021, 05:32 (UTC)
# 9
On: Jul 22, 2021, 21:49 (UTC), Written by ReconKangas

I am kinda at a lose here...

 

Everyone wanted group content, something challenging but not to difficult that it is uncompletable.

Everyone wanted somewhat that was NOT just grinding but a mix.. 

 

NOTHING in Attoraxion gives a peice of gear that is BIS, nothing in Attoraxion gives a major advantage. NO major cash, drops, just simply something to do that takes a group of players to work together and have fun in game.

In my opinion PA nailed it, can you makeover sure. Again that's not the point Attoraxion is for those that want something different to do a new experience.

 

This was not supposed to be easy, I am 401Dp on my mystic and non elvia servers still do damage and to be honest with you your comment on how that mystic is over geared and should be on elvia not correct. Why would I risk my gear without understanding the mechanics?

 

They may adjust drop rates and cash along with gear in up coming additions to Attoraxion. But it's always funny to watch people complain when they are given group content with limited rewards and act like it is not good enough. In the end people don't want group content they just want to be lazy and leach off others to make money and gains. If it was about group content only then we have no problem here becouse with your GS its obvious you are not ready for this content.

People were not asking for best in slot gear for a dungeon
People were not asking for easy content
Content that makes a fake diffcultie by makeing monsters still CC and blow you up thru your protected skills is not "hard" its bull shit
You can`t say people are cry babies about it being hard when you admit that your a 401dp mystic who is scared to go on the elvia servers because your scared to  do the dungeon that is meant for your level.
People above my GS besides the mystic was being blown up anyone below 400 dp people who had 340 plus were insta dying.
Your blinded by your gear and your experinces and because of this you can`t seem to understand the issues around you unless it effects your own tiny bubble that you call a self ego
Have a nice day

Last Edit : Jul 23, 2021, 13:17 (UTC)
# 10
On: Jul 23, 2021, 05:32 (UTC), Written by Taquain

People were not asking for best in slot gear for a dungeon
People were not asking for easy content
Content that makes a fake diffcultie by makeing monsters still CC and blow you up thru your protected skills is not "hard" its bull shit
You can`t say people are cry babies about it being hard when you admit that your a 401dp mystic who is scared to go on the elvia servers because your scared to  do the dungeon that is meant for your level.
People above my GS besides the mystic was being blown up anyone below 400 dp people who had 340 plus were insta dying.
Your blinded by your gear and your experinces and because of this you can`t seem to understand the issues around you unless it effects your own tiny bubble that you call a self ego
Have a nice day

Again your 324 DP expecting to be able to do all content in the game that you are not ready for....

 

Did you think a dungeon was supposed to be a sight seeing trip?

 

You are seriously over estimating your gear and class without fully understanding mechanics within BDO. You can not replace your actual DP AND DR stats along with your DR% from bonus with a warriors Q block and skill buff that is not how the mechanics work in BDO. @324dp you are litterally a Speed bump even with your passive and Q block your sheild itself pulls from the gears DR and with a DR of 215-240 your holding a sheet of paper up while bruce lee punches you in your face.

Your gear and your team mates gear were not ready for this content more specifically you were lacking knowledge of the mobs mechanics AND Mobs themselves mostly becouse it is brand new as people become more familiar with the content AND your gear advances the content will become easier.

 

 

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