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Succession Sage Mobile Vs PC Please Address
Oct 28, 2021, 20:21 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Dec 4, 2021, 22:05 (UTC)
# 1

I'm not going to delve into the current state of Succession Sage on PC. It's widely known by streamers, youtubers and tourney players just how abysmal the class is currently in 1v1/DFS/Small Scale. But imagine my surprise to see majority of what PC players have requested, show up on mobile. Everything from a better version of Reset(Succession AND Awakening should have this version, even if it's only for RC and a few other skills like on mobile), allowing us to double iframe Riftchain every 15 seconds, to an actual heal. Realm of Anquish, which does absolutely nothing other then Dbuff mobs, is an actually useful skill and the casting speed AND movement speed is almost double. There's more protection and actual utility allowing for a much more complex MH/Succession then we currently have on PC. I'm very confused, I understand that there are probably 2 distinctly different teams working on Mobile vs PC, but it's rather apparent that Mobile has addressed a large majority of the issues players on PC have been asking for since launch. How have these changes and updates to the kit, not been moved over to PC? Please, consider doing this, asap.

 

 

https://youtu.be/UDiTXliBWQQ --If you can't see video above

 

The ask, please move over mobile version of Realm of Anguish and Reset to PC Live. Sage already lacks viable protected mobility, allowing us to RC iframe 2 times every 15 seconds would literally be a game changer. Adding Mobile's Reset, if nothing else from mobile would be considered, is probably the most important change we could receive. This would actually lessen impact in NW/Siege and bring his other forms of PVP up substantially. It would prevent us using Overdrive/Overcharged as frequently and give both Awakening and Succession the ability to RC back to back in iframe every 15 seconds, something both kits find lacking. Currently we're unable to dive, where most our kit is designed to work, and having the ability to use several skills back to back, would be a lifesaver for 1v1/DFS. None of the skills resuable, are ranged, so this wouldn't effect NW.

 

Also, Sage's kit is very bare and lacks full protection on most of it's usable skills. Please consider adding the 4 following skills from mobile to help buff up the MH/Succession kit. He could use 1 single fast protected CC at melee range seeing as how his current mobility and majority of the skills are so slow.

 

1st skill to add - 00:50

2nd skill to add - 2:07

3rd skill to add - 2:42

4th skill to add - Mobile's version dodge mechanic. Quick and single iframe RC Dash in any direction but on a 2 - 3 second cd.

 

And last, please consider speeding up MH/Prime by at least Mobile speeds. The amount of Succession Sages is rapidely dwindling due to its incredibly poor and lack luster kit and viability in 1v1/DFS/Small Scale forcing most to go Awakening. It's even recommended to play Awakening because Succession is too bare to be viable with such minimal utility, protection and speed to be viable for most players in day to day activities. Awakening Sages would also like to utilize this kit, but given to it's even slower nature in MH, it disuades use as well, given the fact that iframe was pulled from both Awakening AND Succession, there's no reason it should remain so slow and unprotected. Please consider updating so that Succession and Awakening can use other MH tools and not be punished for doing so. Thank you.

Last Edit : Oct 29, 2021, 23:41 (UTC)
# 2

Go figure, disliked but no feedback. Surprised, not in the slightest. Come on, this community has got to actually provide some feedback if you're against something. This is already on mobile, I'd like to hear why you think it shouldn't be on live? No idea why you'd be against one of the worst 1v1 classes, getting what's ALREADY in another BDO version....are you actually struggling against Succession Sages in DFS? Do you prefer Succession Sage having a ranged bound on Realm? Reseting his Ebuff for more damage and kills at range in NW/Siege on Spatial Collapse, Void Gateways and Finishing Touch, his only ranged skills?

 

These changes actually lessen the damage and impact the class has, makes it more skill and melee based where it's designed. If you're against it, please let us know exactly why so we can figure out another way because something has got to change. It clearly has on mobile.

Last Edit : Oct 30, 2021, 01:10 (UTC)
# 3

Not the type to write long paragraphs but I completely agree with Jenisiz. Sage succession is just pointless in 1v1/Small Scale pvp. 

Last Edit : Nov 1, 2021, 00:43 (UTC)
# 4
On: Oct 30, 2021, 01:10 (UTC), Written by Jammoy

Not the type to write long paragraphs but I completely agree with Jenisiz. Sage succession is just pointless in 1v1/Small Scale pvp. 

We really do need help. I'm playing Awakening currently because the Succession is in such a horrible spot. I'd really like that to change. Mobile looks like it's made some really good improvements...I'd really like those moved over. Something I've noticed, and I really like, is that Riftchain is more of a maneuvering mechanic for melee or sneak attacks but not main form of mobility. There's no SA RC. Instead he has a fast dodge mechanic that looks like RC but isn't as maneuverable and similar in speed to ninja's ghost step. It instead rapidly dodges in the direction tapped, in iframe. It's more easily to track and would warrant speeding up the rest of the kit as it no longer would be constantly hiding in RC. The ability to back to back RC in full iframe every 15 seconds and use RC iframe every 3-4 seconds normally would be different, but with other skills in the kit to rapidly dodge, be ultimately leagues better then what we currently have. 

 

PA has continuously struggled with balancing this class at launch and consistently struggled making the class easier to punish but upping stamina cost and making RC duration shorter (Especially when compared to the absolute/prime demo) and more trackable. Reason he struggles in 1v1/Smallscale is b/c he can't be focused. Has no outplay potential or fast tools to reposition. A dodge like mobile along with sped up and a few new skills like mobile's version would improve the class substantially and remove what opponents facing sages hate the most, inability to easily track for long periods of time.

 

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Last Edit : Dec 4, 2021, 18:58 (UTC)
# 6

So just hit level 55 on Mobile and have been playing in Normal Arenas...this class is leauges better over there. How in the hell did you get it right on Mobile and not on Live? Class is increadibly different on Mobile and very skill based. Not hiding in the backline stealing kills, but an actually challenging class with thought out mechanics on Mobile.

 

PLEASE PA, FIX THIS. GIVE US MOBILE'S SAGE PLEASE!

Last Edit : Dec 18, 2021, 23:13 (UTC)
# 7

Dang, those are some actually useful skills. I would also ask that PA strongly consider taking of some of the skills from mobile kit and applying them to the other versions of the game. 1v1 potential of Succ sage is a joke and the whole community and even the devs probably would agree. I am curious to see how they implement awakening sage on mobile. 

!!ALSO!!
Please refraine from nerfing sage damage further before the sage community rerolls off BDO. Meme nerfing sage isn't cool anymore and should've stopped being a thing after LP nerf.

Last Edit : Dec 22, 2021, 02:33 (UTC)
# 8
On: Dec 18, 2021, 23:13 (UTC), Written by RocketG

Dang, those are some actually useful skills. I would also ask that PA strongly consider taking of some of the skills from mobile kit and applying them to the other versions of the game. 1v1 potential of Succ sage is a joke and the whole community and even the devs probably would agree. I am curious to see how they implement awakening sage on mobile. 

!!ALSO!!
Please refraine from nerfing sage damage further before the sage community rerolls off BDO. Meme nerfing sage isn't cool anymore and should've stopped being a thing after LP nerf.

Agreed, 1000% It's getting rediculous now.

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