I don't think there are enough of us to really make an impact, monetarily. Otherwise I doubt this situation would still exist after years. I think we just keep trying and hoping. What is the term? Copium
New outfit is quite cute and while not ruined like some with the pajamas or the default longjohns, it is definitely better looking in every other region besides NA/EU.
Anyway we dont give up!!
This is a fact. Whales buy whatever costumes are on sale regardless what class it may be as long as it's on sale. Sometimes, they don't even care if it's on sale because of the family purchase limits.
PA obviously puts a lot of attention and care for Shai, both as a class and her unique costumes. Every time there's an outfit that is intended for everyone, Shai is the only one that has a unique twist to the outfit so it looks really great on her (and usually fits best). Unfortunately, they end up censoring her, usually with awful looking leggings that can't be dyed.
I had sent them a long and stern e-mail requesting them to add the new undies and the underlying reasons why a month ago lol. They said they would forward it to the people working on those things so who knows what comes out of it.
It's not about lewding the shai loli but even it is, when was this ever morally wrong? This has always been acceptable whether it's male or female. Nothing has changed except this one time when a North American company decided to censor Tera's loli class because they were worried about the tumblr effect (ie: Karens going REEEE), which ironically was full of actual pedos, not people who aprreciate digital art. The funny thing about that is that they decided to revert the censorship because it was expensive and realized that people spent more money once it was uncensored.
Truth is, BDO could benefit financially from de-censoring shai beacause:
1. Clipping issues are difficult and expensive to fix
2. Creating custom changes to censor is expensive
3. The censorship protest doesn't exist anywhere else (KR, Global Labs, Mobile NA)
4. Censorship is visually ugly to look at, uncensored is cute
5. People would gladly buy more outfits and invest their time into Shai, this includes if all undies were available for her (not just the shai-specific ones)
6. If it's about depicting underaged characters, what about the other classes that are clearly 14, 15 years old? Hypocritical. :P
7. There's nothing ethically or legally wrong with it. Cute is cute, get over it.
8. Shai are always getting high on magic mushrooms and special "grass" lore-wise so really, panties is worse?
I just want to look good just like everyone else here. This is a virtual dress-up game as many MMORPGs are once you reach end-game. It takes a good hour or two to port over panties from another class to Shai, it's not hard work -- I know, I have done it in other games before (surprise, game dev here). Meanwhile a single pair can sell like 20,000 times easily. That is excellent ROI!
My request is:
> De-censorship of Shai class
> Make everything available for Shai because it's not a bad thing
I don't know any other "weeb" that considers loli/shota the same as RL. It's part of the culture and it's cute and fun. Don't let the weirdos ruin the fun for the majority. Kindly remember, we're all here to have fun and relax, work is stressful after all so please be respectful with any counter argument you may have.
you can add 8º point... even they can add as Peal item, Dyable korea/rest of world basic uncerwear
https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/u3bam4/pa_wtf_is_this/
I think this Shai makes a valid point. PA, for months you have advertised this outfit to NA\EU in a form that is completely unobtainable to the quarter+ of Shai players who have been unlucky with underwear boxes.
Shai who buy the outfit from the pearl shop at least get a corrected preview before they buy, Shai who buy from the CM do not
Why advertise a lie for months? Is the goal to get Shai players so hyped for the new outfit, that by the time/if they find out it's not as advertised they're already set on buying it?
Do you need to advertise it in its global version because you realize the NA/EU compromised version is offputting, and not as marketable?
Is the NA/EU team so lazy or inept that they didn't even realize the previews were inaccurate for our region?
Is all the talk of passing on feedback to Korea a lie, and are the people who make the decisions just completely unaware that this is a thing in NA/EU?
Shai players should be advocating for dream donkeys, guaranteed pen sols, and solo/pvp succession spec not here wasting our time asking for common sense on our outfits
also, put the damn purnado armor in the game for our DK friends xD or at least give Cardiel a reason why it cant be done
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Yep, Shai may have gotten a lot of love during the class reboot but fixing a mess isn't the same as adding important things to the game.
Shai still needs:
+ Karlstein outfit
+ Good selection of panties (port over the panties from other classes)
+ Noble dress
+ De-censorship
+ Animal hats that are available from other classes
+ Muscle slider in NA/EU
+ Give us back our florang display while wearing the oblivion outfit please!!! I bought mine because i liked the looks with blackstar! Now it's just in pearl inventory collecting dust
+ Musician grade levels above C (and related quests)
+ Removal of ensemble requirement for florchestra quests (it's hard to find others who will do it with you)
Not specfic to Shai but related:
+ Donkey, Alpaca, Camel and Miniature Elephant breeding
+ Dream tier Donkey, Alpaca, Camel and Miniature Elephant
+ Barding for Alpaca
+ More barding for Donkey, Camel and miniature elephant
+ Give purpose to Donkey, Alpaca, Camel and Miniature Elephants / balance out the whole mount thing
I'd go as far to say that all classes should have access to every piece of outfit available. I'm not sure why this isn't a thing, it's not difficult to implement unless the system they are using is really bad. I read that to fix clipping related issues they go through the hassle of fixing it frame by frame instead of using A.I. or putting a no-clip barrier physics in there. Kinda weird but ok.
2 boxes 2 pajamas (different kinds at least), the texture and models look pretty horrible, and the fact they keep giving Shai miniskirt or even no skirt (looking at you twinkle star) doesn't help it either. Either give her decent underpants or give us actual pants (i mean seriously, give more Margoria Outlaw type sets).
In reply to ^
Yep, Shai may have gotten a lot of love during the class reboot but fixing a mess isn't the same as adding important things to the game.
Shai still needs:
+ Karlstein outfit
+ Good selection of panties (port over the panties from other classes)
+ Noble dress
+ De-censorship
+ Animal hats that are available from other classes
+ Muscle slider in NA/EU
+ Give us back our florang display while wearing the oblivion outfit please!!! I bought mine because i liked the looks with blackstar! Now it's just in pearl inventory collecting dust
+ Musician grade levels above C (and related quests)
+ Removal of ensemble requirement for florchestra quests (it's hard to find others who will do it with you)
Not specfic to Shai but related:
+ Donkey, Alpaca, Camel and Miniature Elephant breeding
+ Dream tier Donkey, Alpaca, Camel and Miniature Elephant
+ Barding for Alpaca
+ More barding for Donkey, Camel and miniature elephant
+ Give purpose to Donkey, Alpaca, Camel and Miniature Elephants / balance out the whole mount thing
I'd go as far to say that all classes should have access to every piece of outfit available. I'm not sure why this isn't a thing, it's not difficult to implement unless the system they are using is really bad. I read that to fix clipping related issues they go through the hassle of fixing it frame by frame instead of using A.I. or putting a no-clip barrier physics in there. Kinda weird but ok.
You fogot two important points:
+ Crafting PEN folia as regular PENS
+ Tag folia as dandelion, or dandeion to folia
2 boxes 2 pajamas (different kinds at least), the texture and models look pretty horrible, and the fact they keep giving Shai miniskirt or even no skirt (looking at you twinkle star) doesn't help it either. Either give her decent underpants or give us actual pants (i mean seriously, give more Margoria Outlaw type sets).
By luck got bear undies... But still feel angry about we cant pick
You fogot two important points:
+ Crafting PEN folia as regular PENS
+ Tag folia as dandelion, or dandeion to folia
Honestly yeah this thread should be about Guaranteed PEN Artina Sol, and Tag Sol. Im prob ~40 billion in on my Sol, and have resigned to only doing cronned PEN taps with my 340 stack. If buy/sell tag or guaranteed PEN were an option like every other class I would have never even touched it through the enhancement system.
Its silly that instead we have to waste our time asking NA/EU to do basic stuff like let us opt out of pajamas clipping out all sides of our outfits. PA doesn't even support this choice enough to make alternative options that could uphold the spirit of Kakao's patch without making our outfits look stupid
+ Animal hats that are available from other classes
Ive never thought about this before, but not giving Shai ALL THE ANIMAL HATS is a baffling choice
also yeah turn the florang on with oblivion or add a toggle
main weapon toggle is overdue tbh
Just started my lifeskilling Shai alt and was going to buy a costume for her but then saw the leggings sticking out on almost all of them. It looks ugly as heck. Who thought this was OK? At least hide them when you put the costume on.