I've been noticing a decline in players in the BDO open world grinding and pvping after Arena of Solare was released. The other option for PVP (Red Battlefield) barely has any players during Arena of Solare time window. Many players may be losing the incentive to grind and gear up since they can just queue for a 3v3 arena on a level 60 with no gear/without putting much effort into the game.
Please make a non-capped version of Arena of Solare for players who want to play their mains in 3v3 arena with the full gear/artifacts/lightstones that they have worked so hard to acquire over these months and years. Arena of Solare can be fun and is popular (compared to RBF especially) but it is the only arena 3v3 option at the moment and I know I would enjoy full gear PvP a lot more for some of the following reasons:
1. Many of the classes are unbalanced at these low APs. Many players are on Drakanias, Warriors and other stronger at low AP classes that they don't normally play and PvP on. The classes I normally play barely have a presence in the TOP 100 ranked players in NA and EU. Players are being told in games to switch to a different class if they don't do well or are on a weaker class at low APs but with full gear people would actually be on their mains or tags and be equipped to perform much better.
2. Gear and no AP restrictions allows players on weaker PvP classes they are maining to be more effective in 3v3 . Many classes that can't 1 combo someone or trade well at low AP can do it with full gear. There would be bigger plays to be made with all that AP if the player is good enough. Having more classes, full gear, artifacts and lightstone sets would be a massive improvement to spice up the end game PvP and increase variety of classes seen at high level gameplay.
3. This is a MMO and much of the content of grinding and lifeskilling for silver is designed around purchasing and enchancing gear to make a powerful character. What's the point of gearing up and making a powerful character if we aren't given the same options to PvP on as undergeared/non-geared level 60s?
Please work on creating a full gear 3v3 Arena Mode if you already aren't. Many full gear players would like this to be ranked mode but I'd be happy with a non-ranked mode even. Any full gear arena is strongly requested to improve the End Game of BDO.
Thank you for your time,
Sheer
I've been noticing a decline in players in the BDO open world grinding and pvping after Arena of Solare was released. The other option for PVP (Red Battlefield) barely has any players during Arena of Solare time window. Many players may be losing the incentive to grind and gear up since they can just queue for a 3v3 arena on a level 60 with no gear/without putting much effort into the game.
Please make a non-capped version of Arena of Solare for players who want to play their mains in 3v3 arena with the full gear/artifacts/lightstones that they have worked so hard to acquire over these months and years. Arena of Solare can be fun and is popular (compared to RBF especially) but it is the only arena 3v3 option at the moment and I know I would enjoy full gear PvP a lot more for some of the following reasons:
1. Many of the classes are unbalanced at these low APs. Many players are on Drakanias, Warriors and other stronger at low AP classes that they don't normally play and PvP on. The classes I normally play barely have a presence in the TOP 100 ranked players in NA and EU. Players are being told in games to switch to a different class if they don't do well or are on a weaker class at low APs but with full gear people would actually be on their mains or tags and be equipped to perform much better.
2. Gear and no AP restrictions allows players on weaker PvP classes they are maining to be more effective in 3v3 . Many classes that can't 1 combo someone or trade well at low AP can do it with full gear. There would be bigger plays to be made with all that AP if the player is good enough. Having more classes, full gear, artifacts and lightstone sets would be a massive improvement to spice up the end game PvP and increase variety of classes seen at high level gameplay.
3. This is a MMO and much of the content of grinding and lifeskilling for silver is designed around purchasing and enchancing gear to make a powerful character. What's the point of gearing up and making a powerful character if we aren't given the same options to PvP on as undergeared/non-geared level 60s?
Please work on creating a full gear 3v3 Arena Mode if you already aren't. Many full gear players would like this to be ranked mode but I'd be happy with a non-ranked mode even. Any full gear arena is strongly requested to improve the End Game of BDO.
Thank you for your time,
Sheer
Unfortunantly due to the gear progression mechanincs of the game, that would only make 3v3 Arena battles Pay to win, and furthur split the que times.
While it would be mostlikely better than the FOTM arena we have now, the playerbase is way too small for two modes.
Fixing exploits and installing macro detect software will greatly improve arena! After that, yes please add party queue with your gear
Fixing exploits and installing macro detect software will greatly improve arena! After that, yes please add party queue with your gear
Until they solve (and they don't) the problem of players who can kill you in 1 second and you can't do anything, pvp in this game doesn't exist.
Until they solve (and they don't) the problem of players who can kill you in 1 second and you can't do anything, pvp in this game doesn't exist.
The solution is literattely 1 line of code, enforce Vsyn (techically they don't have to code anything, they should just contact Nvidia and AMD and ask them to forbit uncapping FPS for BDO), as for dying in 1 second, sadly if you don't want to die in 1 second you must exploit FPS yourself.
My plan is to explain importance of FPS to everyone, so everybody now start to play on lowest low with Vsync off, so PA get mad noone play at amazing graphics and fix the problem by enforcing Vsyn.
The solution is literattely 1 line of code, enforce Vsyn (techically they don't have to code anything, they should just contact Nvidia and AMD and ask them to forbit uncapping FPS for BDO), as for dying in 1 second, sadly if you don't want to die in 1 second you must exploit FPS yourself.
My plan is to explain importance of FPS to everyone, so everybody now start to play on lowest low with Vsync off, so PA get mad noone play at amazing graphics and fix the problem by enforcing Vsyn.
You still have displays with 60, 120, 144, 240 or 360hz v-sync, so vsync alone doesn´t help at all. You would either need to hardcap the fps, which means waiting until a frame is submitted which on windows is a bit annoying since a simple sleep is limited to 1ms accuracy on windows and you really don´t want to busy wait. But it is probably doable, console games are often capped to 30fps, so there probably is a solutiong.
Besides that: AoS works so well because the gear is roughly equal. Now all they need to do is some more class balancing. I don´t think a full gear arena is necessary. Players doing node wars and sieges need to up their gear anyways, same for people playing RBF. At the moment a lot of people are probably trying out AoS, that´s why the open world is probably a bit less crowded at the moment. Give it some time and it will change again.
Now all they need to do is some more class balancing.
PA showed in the past many times how much they care about balancing...
Also you aren't even right. Even the gear isn't equal. Succ player can run with more ap...
PA showed in the past many times how much they care about balancing...
Also you aren't even right. Even the gear isn't equal. Succ player can run with more ap...
i think it'll be better this time around. there is now solid data with controlled gear and scaling for pa to make proper adjustments. overall pa have been better at implementing changes. grab change was great. the mini tweaks for all the classes has been great. all within the past year, they've been doing incremental changes instead of insane over the top nerfs and buffs.
to the op, i disagree with having live gear aos. in the spirit of a competitive mode, it adds a hard cap requirement to even consider queing.
1. it's not fun as a new player getting one shotted.
2. it's not fun as an experienced player getting one shotted.
3. it's fun for a geared carried player with no skill one shotting players.
Watching best in class tournment was a joke when the clear better skilled player lost by gear. I'd honestly hang up my hat if aos was live gear only. I'd definitely hang my hat up if they pulled another shadow arena.