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Another Disapointing Heidel Ball
Sep 25, 2022, 00:23 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Sep 28, 2022, 19:19 (UTC)
# 41

BDO does need more variety of content instead of just new classes to further add an imbalance to the whole system. Most of us can agree to that and grinding in circles can get boring/tiring at least for a lot of people, but some people really like it. I don't but don't judge people who do hehe. Magnus is a step towards alternative content, something we've been requesting, or many of us have been for years.

They could have made this longer and talked more with Q&A but in all likeliness, it was probably all scripted and people's live chat input wasn't considered. Personally, Square Enix does a phenomenal job at these types of conferences and PA could learn more from them. BUT they did step it up a notch this year versus last year and the years before it. They are getting better.

The best thing that they are doing right now is not over-promissing and just announcing things that are coming in the near-future. Because of this they can meet their deadlines and set realistic expectations. People complain about monkey boy not being a playable class yet but that expansion is coming maybe in December so there's still time.

I get it, it's hard to please everyone especially with a horrible track record. But IMO this was the best Heidel ball yet and the freebies were 10/10. As far as BDO is concerned as a game, it's not the type of game that would appeal to completionists because it's not designed with a completionist in mind. To play BDO and enjoy it, you need to understand the fundamental aspect that you will never, ever be the best or even reach a full matery of anything. Guru 50, Level 70, catch all legendary fish and obtaining the best possible gear is all improbable to reach any of them. That's the appeal of the game, to know there's always something you can do to be better. Sadly, their progression department could use a rework because you can try to move forward but sent backwards instead, that's demotivating.

I also notice some people are gloating about playtime or max level, but none of that really matters. You could AFK fish for 3 years and have a crazy playtime and electric bill. You could AFK in RBF and reach level 68. What you guys should be gloating about is your personal amazing stories that you had with playing the game. What did you do that was your personal favorite achievement? We each have our own goals and play the game differently and can never compare apples to oranges.

Hopefully, HOPEFULLY BDO will actually become a much more varied game to lesson the boring circle grinds for those of us that are tired of it. Hopefully there is an improved progression system because spending 500hrs on a single attempt only to go backwards is painful. Hopefully BDO will improve lifeskilling for lifeskillers and sailing content for sailors. BDO can only get better moving forward and it seems like they are listening to user input at least. I'm not trying to brown nose, I complained about so many things and I'm sure people are sick of hearing my "feedback". But credit where credit is due, PA and BDO is in fact, improving and I'm looking forward to what that means for the future.

Last Edit : Sep 28, 2022, 20:04 (UTC)
# 42

This was the best Heidel ball to date. It was realistic and not just the grandeur of things that never appear. TBH, PA has worked really hard in making BDO life easier in last 1 year. 

PvP balance is not balanced, and I hope they are looking at it. I accepted that it will never be balanced, and that's fine. However, I would some different types of PvE in the game. Anything that is not a grind spot would be fine. I will even take Aakman as a solo duo dungeon 

Last Edit : Sep 29, 2022, 04:05 (UTC)
# 43
On: Sep 28, 2022, 17:22 (UTC), Written by asdsadfas

"i made zero effort characters to push a bit more family fame" doesn't look the way you think it looks LOL

maybe dont have 6 shais most of which are not leveled before you think ur roster is better than anyones 

damn i didnt play i even made 6 shais because i didn't even want to play to get more life fame so i can get a bit more silver why am i not progressing :(

We both have a 63 though I'm almost 64 and I have 9 level 62's to your 1 and by the end of the week I'll have 11.

And yeah slam 6 Shais on for more family fame. Care to try again?

Last Edit : Sep 29, 2022, 04:07 (UTC)
# 44
On: Sep 28, 2022, 20:04 (UTC), Written by Parvat

This was the best Heidel ball to date. It was realistic and not just the grandeur of things that never appear. TBH, PA has worked really hard in making BDO life easier in last 1 year. 

PvP balance is not balanced, and I hope they are looking at it. I accepted that it will never be balanced, and that's fine. However, I would some different types of PvE in the game. Anything that is not a grind spot would be fine. I will even take Aakman as a solo duo dungeon 


Translation they have streamlined the path to gacha gear to get people into the gambling faster.

Last Edit : Sep 29, 2022, 05:23 (UTC)
# 45
On: Sep 29, 2022, 04:05 (UTC), Written by SophiaEris

We both have a 63 though I'm almost 64 and I have 9 level 62's to your 1 and by the end of the week I'll have 11.

And yeah slam 6 Shais on for more family fame. Care to try again?

imagine playing so much u have to get more family fame by having 6 shais, and playing so much that u didnt even level them

btw u care so much about levels, what are our total level differences?

i have many level 62s but i didn't progress while i was afk playing another game so the ball was bad >:(

Last Edit : Sep 29, 2022, 09:15 (UTC)
# 46
On: Sep 28, 2022, 11:58 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

I always have 100% game completion and all achievements. Also in each sandbox game.

But for almost 3 years at BDO, I didn't manage to finish anything. Don't you find it sick and ridiculous?

I have 643 energy so near max, but max is impossible, requires all great marni stones. We have 19, I have ... 5. Trying to get others is pointless because why play polly or gahaz if you can play on Elvia. Also I collected 100 mini parts from blood wolves and great marni stone didn't drop anyway.

Bottle with a Note . Throughout the last FS event I was fishing 12 hours a day, for month. I got 4 bottles but each bottle is only a chance for a treasure map and there are 10 of them.

Titles. I have 1045-1075 titles. Last bonus requires 2000 titles. Problem: many titles are outdated and ridiculous. Eg. kill 10 000 Kuruto. This is Calpheon not grind zone. 10 000 in Tshira? Sick but ok. 10 000 Kuruto? Impossible. Also for almost three years I can't obtain title for getting dim armor and muskan shoes. 3 years muskan scrolls and hundreds of dims killed during events. For nothing.

Life skills? Only fishing Guru 5 and cooking Guru 1. In New World it would take maybe 3-6 months to obtain all life skills to the max.

In BDO? I read recently that it took some player 3 years to obtain processing Guru 50 ... 24/7 pc run.

BDO is a pointless never ending grind for nothing.

Pointless maybe if you view it that way. Others like the challenge even if rng is a factor

 I have 3 treasure items ( ancient versions of both pots with tag name) an map. Also got 653 energy , cp 431. Also decent lifeskill levels.11k family fame ,1k titles also 703GS.

Every single one was a goal i completed. Which i know very few people have that much completed. I also know the games a sandbox Achievements are how you value them.

Sandboxes make you ,create your own achievements. Are they pointless probably to others. 

Also for processing leveling it isnt about the time to process its the materials.Getting the mats is a different story to what you're saying and if you leave your pc afk processing 24/7 your doing something majorly wrong since you inventory with mastery will be filled in 15 mins especially timbers

Last Edit : Sep 29, 2022, 10:11 (UTC)
# 47
On: Sep 29, 2022, 09:15 (UTC), Written by TitanOfWar

Pointless maybe if you view it that way. Others like the challenge even if rng is a factor

 I have 3 treasure items ( ancient versions of both pots with tag name) an map. Also got 653 energy , cp 431. Also decent lifeskill levels.11k family fame ,1k titles also 703GS.

Every single one was a goal i completed. Which i know very few people have that much completed. I also know the games a sandbox Achievements are how you value them.

Sandboxes make you ,create your own achievements. Are they pointless probably to others. 

Also for processing leveling it isnt about the time to process its the materials.Getting the mats is a different story to what you're saying and if you leave your pc afk processing 24/7 your doing something majorly wrong since you inventory with mastery will be filled in 15 mins especially timbers

Just look at this from hes prespective, put your character infront of Hiedel/Velia storate 24/7, do nothing, claim you playing BDO, lie as much as you can , complain PA add content for endgame players and don't give you free gear equal to endgame gear.

Publisher responsible for this, if only they remove private settings and add more ingame info to forum displaying so you can burst those "players" on sight and crap they say, like demanding party dungeons to be soloable for 200 GS. (even less GS than PA ask for season version, which is equal to naked).

Last Edit : Sep 29, 2022, 11:31 (UTC)
# 48
On: Sep 29, 2022, 10:09 (UTC), Written by Potato

Just look at this from hes prespective, put your character infront of Hiedel/Velia storate 24/7, do nothing, claim you playing BDO, lie as much as you can , complain PA add content for endgame players and don't give you free gear equal to endgame gear.

Publisher responsible for this, if only they remove private settings and add more ingame info to forum displaying so you can burst those "players" on sight and crap they say, like demanding party dungeons to be soloable for 200 GS. (even less GS than PA ask for season version, which is equal to naked).

Use your brain, this game is not only for you who have been playing since launch but also for those who started yesterday or today.

How they achieve anything in a game where players even after 5 years have nothing?

Eg. this stupid Guru's 1 requirement in alchemy to lightstones. A lot of people I know have tried to achieve this ... none of them succeeded.

Everyone stopped within the limits of Master 1-5, which is exactly where I was, in the place where I found that it made no further sense with such a zero exp. 

And now others people complain that there are no lightstones on the market or they cost 5b. And who is to produce the rarest ligtstones, if it pays off only through alchemy, but 99% of players do not have a Guru1.

Last Edit : Sep 30, 2022, 20:08 (UTC)
# 49
On: Sep 29, 2022, 11:31 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Use your brain, this game is not only for you who have been playing since launch but also for those who started yesterday or today.

How they achieve anything in a game where players even after 5 years have nothing?

Eg. this stupid Guru's 1 requirement in alchemy to lightstones. A lot of people I know have tried to achieve this ... none of them succeeded.

Everyone stopped within the limits of Master 1-5, which is exactly where I was, in the place where I found that it made no further sense with such a zero exp. 

And now others people complain that there are no lightstones on the market or they cost 5b. And who is to produce the rarest ligtstones, if it pays off only through alchemy, but 99% of players do not have a Guru1.

Lightstones oh god why would you bother with them. They are very little to no money also you might aswell enhance pen BS. Also quite a big percentage have over guru alchemy. The issue isnt lightstones at all. Its the money made lightstones were meant to be end game alchemy.You know have a goal get to it. But key fact if you think they are worth it an you have the luck to get them go for it.

They arent worth it even with putting them back to the market after the lightstone change where you can keep converting them. Imo that actually made alchemy worse for beginners because them mats are needed earlier on anyway they shouldve use fully all resources that are worthless(that do not sell i know some mats were but not all) trace of despair being one of them

Edit: I should clarify why i say no money the materials to make them if you bought from the maket and then add in time to make and tax from the market your making less than doing other things in game for the same time frame. Even when using you own materials you have better options.

Also if you think getting alchemy to guru 1 is hard you have no idea what reagents are for.

Reagents are for everything in alchemy just about including lightstones. So why not just make reagents for them so you can make a mass bulk lot of them netting you less time to find the mats. Just seems like your impatient an wanting to be guru 1 in a day.  I have zero idea how much alchemy i have done. I had guru before mastery even released . Afaik its easier now then back then since the materials were near impossible to get since the market was the old system which you had the bid system god forbid that ever comes back.

Also vetrans are the reason the game still survives so that new players can enjoy this game if you think otherwise then you need look into what happend to other  mmos which focused on new players with no end game at all. New players are needed , but also thinking they are the only people supporting the game your mistaken. Usually vetrans put more money into the game over time because they know what the games about and dont want to waste the time they have spent or previous money spent. But you are focusing on new players who could or could not stay which if they focused on new players how will the game survive? If you focus directly on vetrans  how will it survive.

At the moment PA have it pretty balanced for supporting new players because the end game players old gear or end game content drip feeds into the market. This in turn makes players like your self who cant get them items be able to access them through the market. Could it be improved for new players sure. They need to explain things better also should make it where they show you a taste of some of the end game content so new players know what the end game will be like when they get there

Last Edit : Sep 30, 2022, 20:44 (UTC)
# 50

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