FIX THE BALANCE BETWEEN CLASS'S this is a total crapshow for pvp in openworld and now AOS....just look at how many of the same class's you fight everyone is playing the same  op class's make your game fun for all the people playing not just the lucky few that choose the right class....most the time im KD And half dead before i can even see the people render on my screen how can so many class's  teleport everywhere..... as a ranger i can hardly move then add slows on it ...stand no chance to get away from all the musa's draks strikers lahns....mystics.... zerkers jumping 10 miles acrossed the screen with a longer range KD then a ranger....i rarly can last 1 kd before my V dont work and im dead in a split second......and wth is up with some class's can prevent you from using V ? then add mouse movment and how some class's work they arent even where they apear on the screen!! thats fun to fight!!

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Yep way to much mobility in the game with a short AF render distance. Its time to nerf mobility on classes I dont give AF if thier PVE suffers for it.

a  healthy speed of mobility is better for the game.

I play an awakened ranger and sometimes hop into AOS  ranger is all about reacting with super armors and baiting out the enemy to punish them. you cant do that when people run circles around you warping around the map at the speed of light.

Range classes do not exist in this game. PA doesn't understand this, and classes like Ranger or Archer don't have melee damage reduction like all other melee classes. Also no grab so no cc, because all others cc simple don't work. "Range" does not give these classes any advantage because melee classes have skills of a longer range than those of the Ranger or Archer eg. berserker jump-grab skill. ROTFL.

You do know archer can do damage out of rendering range right? An can do some serious damage? Im beginning to wonder if you play him like a melee class...

There is 1 archer in EU AOS who does it, run in like a tank and blame team he dead in a sec.

And once again, what type of balance players can expect w/o combat logs and hidden modifyers

ROTFL. One bugged not targeting skill.

You have no idea what skills Archer has.

Ava:

Radiant - melee skill

Spear - melee skill

Luthraghon - charged skill (start this skill and you are dead) (can be used instant but low dmg)

Piercing - charged skill (start this skill and you are dead)

Full Bloom - this one is a bugged skill which you are talking about.

And this skill have two mode:
Flow - not targeting and very low dmg to close targets

Marked - nice range skill

Mountain - melee skill

Righteous  - 30 sec cd and not targeting

Uproot - melee escape skill

Ravenous - melee zero dmg skill

Glissade - melee zero dmg skill

Zephyr- escape zero dmg skill

Tactical - zero dmg skill

And that's all. Main skill are unplayable. PA thinks Archer is a "double" class but 100% Archer uses only ava because only awa has high damage and healing. But these skills, as you can see, are useless in pvp. Also it is not convenient to change weapons during the fight. Yes, you can use "shortcuts" by invoking crossbow skills while fighting with the bow but this only works for those skills whose key combination is not present in the bow skills.

Main:

Meteor - melee skill

Covering - zero dmg skill

Winged - zero dmg skill

Arrow explosion - nice range skill

Bolt of Radiance - melee and not targeting skill

Wrath - charged skill

Earth - melee skill

Storm - melee skill

Also almost all of these skills are too slow to be useful in pvp.

Archer can be deadly in AOS only if the other players protect him and constantly tie his opponents in the fight.

Once again, the core of the problem is the engine.

It won't be resolved until they actually remaster the game and use another engine that is not riddled with the same issues ... So there is very few chances for that to happen (what they called remaster was just implementing a post processing middleware solution in their 10 years ol engine, YEBIS, nothing more, so it didn't resolve anything, as expected.)

Awa Ranger has a grab. The E skill(Spirit's Shackles), according to description. :)

Ranger mains can correct me, if I am wrong.

But what is interesting is the following question:

Did you read what the topic is about? :)

? I read it its mainly about mobility. Ya awk ranger has a grab so what?  It's a twig  lingering super armor class that is punished for using things st the wrong times. outside of anything 1v1 the whole class as a whole has long animations and long cooldowns it's held in place for a long time with its combo..

But this thread is not about awk ranger it's about mobility creep which ya is insane right now for multiple reasons over and it ruins pvp idk why anyone does pvp anymore in this state. And FYI that archer is right range is currently not any form of protection because of the mobility creep. Succession ranger can't do anything when classes warp on top of them and cc nuke them before they can even react. Archer is similar but has a bit more he can do to peel himself out of situations. That being said the issue isn't archer and ranger needing buffs it's mobility that is faster then the servers and the games view distance can even show reliably!

AoS is a trash mini-game.  PA would not balance anything in the view of AoS.  AoS is not BDO.