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Feedback - improve awakening caster, it doesn't fit in current meta even in group fights.
Oct 19, 2022, 10:25 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Nov 14, 2022, 20:07 (UTC)
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Title: Feedback - improve awakening caster, it doesn't fit in current meta even in group fights.
Family Name: Whyso

Region (NA/EU): EU



Class (Awakening/Succession): Wizard (Awakening)


Suggestion: Class needs to be sturdier in melee and needs to have its zone respected more if it was to be still left in its "tower class" design
Details:

Awakened casters are at the current state of the game relic of the past and can't take lots of punishment in super fast meta of everyone being able to catch up to them in a blink of an eye and keep damaging them until they are dead (unless the grab them and kill them before damaging them to death).

Turret class DOESN'T work if people aren't respecting their aoe zone, be it via WAY nastier debuffs or WAY higher damage. As it is now people see awakened caster and their first thought it to go straight for them knowing they can't do much to stop them and that problem kinda multiplies many times over when that teleport spell is used.

Class needs some help as it is inferior to its succession spec in literally ALL forms of PvP.  It is virtually all but dead spec in EU at the moment. 

Suggestions that should be considered:

increase duration (or lower cooldown)of Mana shield for awakened spec

add extra charge(s) on awakened skill Flow: magical evasion

add command to use Elementalization from staff stance, make it full iframe

make pets use all your stats, including %damage modifiers like from corrupted gems. Sucks to have such large of your kit not using all your gear? why is this even happening?

iron out class modifiers  - > some classes simply ignore us due to having big advantage there and they also have bit kit advantage fighting us to begin with

- maybe remove downsmash from Calling of Fire and give it FG and some (+20%)+critical chance buff over 10 sec

- remove airsmash from Flow: Aqua bomb, also, why does it have split damage in 2017? I know people didnt look kindly at Water sphere and its flow being spammed from castle walls like 5 years back but today its totally weird to put this restriction on this class spec.

- awa wizard has crap ranged options as it is. its supposed to be middle range class afaik, and very few of its spells reeach further than a bit wider melee coupled with atrocious reposition options.

- maybe put T3 addon on Awakened version of Bolide of destruction? somehow improve the spell at least, succession version is legit few times better and faster skill. Also, if u BON it, it doesnt apply down attack on its own cc from KD.

- rework Chilling wave, it is simply not good skill and its frontal guard is dubious at best, also very weak block bar. Takes forever to apply damage in todays meta. Also, every other class today seems to have some sort of FG penetration, blockjump or simply goes through fg for whatever reason vs this long static skill with actually disappointing dps. If its supposed to be some sorf of big damage finisher skill, it is failing in its job. see sorceres skill cartian nightmare for refernece. Theres a way better way it was done.

Hellfire gets stopped under enemy hits since forever ( https://streamable.com/8sk19v ). Remove friendly collision at least from the skill. Make your character not drop from tiniest elevation distance if u used hellfire from some height ( https://streamable.com/oua5ay ). It even gets stuck on corpses on the floor! Make 50% BSR  Hellfire version gain SA. Its useless at the moment. Also make BSR version chain Magma bomb and Flame knot as original spell.

-Flame knot often lacks range to connect to Hellfire, which is its combo connection spell by design. https://streamable.com/tr9455  Adjust a tiny little bit so that this doesnt happen because its actually sad now and is self grief. 

-FIX skills not working on slopes/elevations? Our skills are long and take long to cast and often even then they don't connect with enemies due to Y axis issues. It is often feeling we are self CCing ourselves and doing nothing to people unless terrain is flat and nice, and you know that isn't happening often in nodewar/siege scenarios.

p.s. it wouldnt be bad if mana pool for the class was increased without us needing to sacrifice lightstone set. i dont see other classes having basically locked lightstone sets for them. mana level hasnt been raised since 2017 basically, beside this 4xmindstone set.

Not that it matters, but it might be relevant - I'm speaking from 732 gs perspective, meaning that there aint much left that can be done via gear beside few % in one way or another for some stuff. Also, might be important to note that most GEARED players avoid this class spec like plague as gear on it doesnt feel nearly as impactfull as on other classes so thier efforts and gear is better used on more fortunate/better designed classes.



P.S. Elementalization still sux and doesnt work right when u need it the most - TO ACTUALLY MOVE YOU. Pleasedevs fix the issues with all skills listed in this post.

https://streamable.com/obrxry
https://streamable.com/p2ipz9

Last Edit : Oct 22, 2022, 08:11 (UTC)
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also, new magnus skill is atrocious for awakening spec. it doesnt have mobility to use it properly due to fg. damage is also lackluster. probably due to our superb pvp mods vs classes.

also, animation is long, damage takes forever to start applying and its scattered, its horrible even if person in front of you goes afk.

please devs administer some attention to this spec beyond adding stuff noone asked for or half assed solutions

Last Edit : Oct 23, 2022, 07:49 (UTC)
# 3

I'm genuinely curious when you're going to stop making 30,000 posts about buffing awakened caster, instead of just learning to play your class better.

Last Edit : Oct 23, 2022, 08:17 (UTC)
# 4
On: Oct 23, 2022, 07:49 (UTC), Written by HouseOfTalenvard

I'm genuinely curious when you're going to stop making 30,000 posts about buffing awakened caster, instead of just learning to play your class better.

i seem to remember valks crying their eyes out about their fg mobility not working and getting sa+fg movement in the end alongisde many other goodies. 

Last Edit : Oct 24, 2022, 12:00 (UTC)
# 5

#suggestion tag updated

Last Edit : Oct 27, 2022, 09:31 (UTC)
# 6

Why do you keep bumping this post up, isnt that against ToS for forums?

Last Edit : Oct 27, 2022, 17:11 (UTC)
# 7
On: Oct 23, 2022, 07:49 (UTC), Written by HouseOfTalenvard

I'm genuinely curious when you're going to stop making 30,000 posts about buffing awakened caster, instead of just learning to play your class better.

Do tell how an awakened caster should be played (better) :)

Last Edit : Oct 27, 2022, 17:12 (UTC)
# 8
On: Oct 27, 2022, 09:31 (UTC), Written by TitanOfWar

Why do you keep bumping this post up, isnt that against ToS for forums?

Considering it was an update to the information in the OP its fine, not to mention, Whyso is essentially the last Awa wizard left in the game, you can't blame him for trying to raise awareness for his forgotten class, it's not like anyone else is going to be around to make posts.

Last Edit : Oct 28, 2022, 12:37 (UTC)
# 9
On: Oct 27, 2022, 09:31 (UTC), Written by TitanOfWar

Why do you keep bumping this post up, isnt that against ToS for forums?

they added suggestion guidelines fo tags via post so i added approrpiate ones

Last Edit : Oct 29, 2022, 15:33 (UTC)
# 10

New rabam also doesnt work with the usual cancels for awa, yet they instantly fixed it for linking with succ

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