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Remove invisible I-frames.
Oct 20, 2022, 22:13 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Oct 20, 2022, 22:16 (UTC)
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remove invisible I-frames. it is far too difficult to pvp against classes that have invisible I-frames when all they have to do is hold down two buttons to not be able to be tracked on your screen. Sorc and ninja specifically, I am not sure if there are more classes that can do that. its UNFAIR for other classes. It makes some even want to reroll their class all together when you cant land a single hit on your enemy because they are almost "teleporting" around your screen, able to wait for cooldowns better than you can because you cannot do the same as they can. its like a "hide and seek" game to them, they can make a mistake and not worry about being caught. there are too many instances when I just give up fighting a sorc/ninja because im missing all of my crowd control skills trying to track a ghost.

Last Edit : Oct 21, 2022, 05:53 (UTC)
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People forget that kuno exist I guess :( So sad, but then is kuno the perfect ninja if no one knows she exist ?

To be honest I kinda like that feel that you just dont know when the enemy will position. Makes the fight little more spicy. But probably fery few people will think like me.

Last Edit : Oct 21, 2022, 05:58 (UTC)
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whole game is jsut perma blinking people all around you, and it isnt even only rats/assassins/mages, its warriors with 2 ton 2 handed swords also.

Last Edit : Oct 21, 2022, 16:32 (UTC)
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Funny thing is... it doesn't appear so fast and 'invisible' on the players screen as it does their opponents screen.

Last Edit : Oct 21, 2022, 17:43 (UTC)
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Écrit le : 21 oct. 2022, 16:32 (UTC), par : jangalangz

Funny thing is... it doesn't appear so fast and 'invisible' on the players screen as it does their opponents screen.

Indeed, a lot of this shenaningans is due to either desync, or how the FPS affects stuff in the game, and it will unfortunately never be resolved.

Add on top of that the previously mentionned mobility creep and you have it.

Have you ever seen a pack of fleas under coke fighting each other ? Well, just look at a BDO PvP game ... Uh, oh, my bad, nobody does actually. The viewing numbers on their last esport event, EU vs NA, were really bad.

Last Edit : Oct 21, 2022, 17:52 (UTC)
# 6
On: Oct 20, 2022, 22:13 (UTC), Written by RawrxDnuzzles

remove invisible I-frames. it is far too difficult to pvp against classes that have invisible I-frames when all they have to do is hold down two buttons to not be able to be tracked on your screen. Sorc and ninja specifically, I am not sure if there are more classes that can do that. its UNFAIR for other classes. It makes some even want to reroll their class all together when you cant land a single hit on your enemy because they are almost "teleporting" around your screen, able to wait for cooldowns better than you can because you cannot do the same as they can. its like a "hide and seek" game to them, they can make a mistake and not worry about being caught. there are too many instances when I just give up fighting a sorc/ninja because im missing all of my crowd control skills trying to track a ghost.

hash, kuno, ninja, dark knight, sorc, witch/wizard's teleport

hash, kuno and dark knight are by far the worst offenders

making everything visible is honestly necessary for the health of the game, along with stuff like nova's black holes, blizzard, valk's vaccum etc, even with no effects and low skill opacity

Last Edit : Oct 21, 2022, 19:55 (UTC)
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On: Oct 21, 2022, 17:51 (UTC), Written by askore

hash, kuno, ninja, dark knight, sorc, witch/wizard's teleport

hash, kuno and dark knight are by far the worst offenders

making everything visible is honestly necessary for the health of the game, along with stuff like nova's black holes, blizzard, valk's vaccum etc, even with no effects and low skill opacity

Worst offenders being 'kuno" considering we have stamina issues like sorc and dont have your iframes well yous can iframe an blink more than us seems sus 

Edit: You even have a kuno at level 61, guess its just a season alt. Nevermind makes sense

Last Edit : Oct 21, 2022, 20:18 (UTC)
# 8
On: Oct 21, 2022, 19:50 (UTC), Written by TitanOfWar

Worst offenders being 'kuno" considering we have stamina issues like sorc and dont have your iframes well yous can iframe an blink more than us seems sus 

Edit: You even have a kuno at level 61, guess its just a season alt. Nevermind makes sense

shadow step blinks, tendon cutter blinks, prime dance macabre blinks, ghost greeting blinks, flash slash blinks. maybe others i'm forgetting.

it's a lot worse than sorc where only night crow and shadow leap blink, with night crow having a very small range anyway.

Last Edit : Oct 22, 2022, 08:53 (UTC)
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On: Oct 21, 2022, 20:18 (UTC), Written by askore

shadow step blinks, tendon cutter blinks, prime dance macabre blinks, ghost greeting blinks, flash slash blinks. maybe others i'm forgetting.

it's a lot worse than sorc where only night crow and shadow leap blink, with night crow having a very small range anyway.


If you want to nerf Kuno evne more than PA can simply delete this class....

She already is shit on damage, also garbage durabillity, depleating stamina on half of the skills- worst thing every kind of block is also using up stamina, and I-frames except block jump maybe are inneffective because of that ridicolous short time... Especially on succession since they're only buffing the shit awa trillion times. Even the dodge moves doesn't have I-frame like many other classes indeed got (shadow step for example)...

Only protection she got is her agillity by those skills, ineffective invisibillity since it's completely unprotected and you can still hit her and getting revealed, and out of RNG evasion sometimes which especially in PVP may only evade one skill...

Simply compare the new skill which got released on Magnus. The skill on the Kuno got the least dmg of all classes again..
Don't need to go for PVP, just try to go to the Yetis on 280AP/360DP/800 accuracy- I'm NOT able to grind there, even super difficult to kill anyone there, but getting hit 5 times I'm done already-> while other classes can grind there already only having fcn Pen Tuvala...
What do you think how it works in PVP...

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Last Edit : Oct 22, 2022, 09:13 (UTC)
# 10

Kunoichi is already a very weak class that is always nerfed, while the striker is buffed every time. I don't know why players who play much stronger classes have such hatred towards weaker ones.

Take away their invisibility, take away their attack, take away their control so that we come up and press two buttons to kill them!

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