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DP should not be a nearly useless stat in pvp.
Oct 22, 2022, 00:22 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Oct 22, 2022, 11:45 (UTC)
# 1

Title: DP should not be a nearly useless stat in pvp.
Family Name: Stregain

Region (NA/EU): NA

Suggestion/Comments: AP way outscales DP in pvp, especially at the far higher end of AP brackets. The one-shot meta is kind of old and pvp would feel better if it were slowed down just a little bit and allowed for a comeback or two in fights.
Last Edit : Oct 22, 2022, 02:51 (UTC)
# 2

2 or 3 combo meta sounds better.

Last Edit : Oct 22, 2022, 11:40 (UTC)
# 3
On: Oct 22, 2022, 02:51 (UTC), Written by Alodylis

2 or 3 combo meta sounds better.

Agreed. Not to mention at least having the chance for a comback mid fight could help account for issues of desync and latency differences whereas right now its just 1 CC and dead most of the time. A little more eb and flow in fights would be way more interesting. There was actually a time when this was the case. Also, you know...it would make gaining DP at endgame *actually* feel rewarding?

Last Edit : Oct 22, 2022, 14:19 (UTC)
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If we go to a meta where we need to do multiple combos to kill people fast classes will just run when they get low hp and you won't ever be able to kill them, while low movement classes will have nothing they can do except accepting death.

Have you ever fought a double Cadry valk? Or a another tanky dr class with a similar build? There's a really high probability you can't onecombo that.

Last Edit : Oct 22, 2022, 14:22 (UTC)
# 5
On: Oct 22, 2022, 02:51 (UTC), Written by Alodylis

2 or 3 combo meta sounds better.

imagine catching some classes if u play slow immobile clas with bad cc potential to begin with

alto, that being said, theres defo too much damage in the game, bruisers with damage, tanks with damage, assassins with damage.....

Last Edit : Oct 23, 2022, 00:47 (UTC)
# 6
On: Oct 22, 2022, 14:18 (UTC), Written by Saeii

If we go to a meta where we need to do multiple combos to kill people fast classes will just run when they get low hp and you won't ever be able to kill them, while low movement classes will have nothing they can do except accepting death.

Have you ever fought a double Cadry valk? Or a another tanky dr class with a similar build? There's a really high probability you can't onecombo that.

"If we go to a meta where we need to do multiple combos to kill people fast classes will just run when they get low hp and you won't ever be able to kill them, while low movement classes will have nothing they can do except accepting death."

That also means that you heal up in the meantime while waiting for them to re engage. Still more interesting that 1 shot meta.

"Have you ever fought a double Cadry valk? Or a another tanky dr class with a similar build? There's a really high probability you can't onecombo that."

Good, thats the point. Somewhat tankier builds should be viable (they literally used to be and there was more build diversity and slightly less one shot meta as a result of it.) There was actually the potential to make a comeback during a fight.

Last Edit : Oct 23, 2022, 07:35 (UTC)
# 7

Well if you're agreeing that double Cadry valk build is working then it means DP isn't a useless stat. I'm not saying it shouldn't work. I'm only pointing out it exists and people are running that build because it works well

Last Edit : Oct 23, 2022, 07:37 (UTC)
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I'm a 400 DP Valkyrie, which is supposed to be a tank-style class, and yet I get 1-2 shot, especially in RBF, and especially against Ranger.

Last Edit : Oct 23, 2022, 08:11 (UTC)
# 9
On: Oct 22, 2022, 14:22 (UTC), Written by WhySoSeeryus

imagine catching some classes if u play slow immobile clas with bad cc potential to begin with

alto, that being said, theres defo too much damage in the game, bruisers with damage, tanks with damage, assassins with damage.....

You forgot ranged classes doing absurd damage, from range.

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Last Edit : Oct 23, 2022, 08:22 (UTC)
# 10
On: Oct 23, 2022, 07:35 (UTC), Written by Saeii

Well if you're agreeing that double Cadry valk build is working then it means DP isn't a useless stat. I'm not saying it shouldn't work. I'm only pointing out it exists and people are running that build because it works well

problem is it works on SOME classes.

while valk with cadry and engame gear can still safetly put people away, some other classes cant and wont TANK stuff from otehrs wit it either.

now, im not against people going tankier route ... the problem lies in the fact that some still retain their kill potential whole doing so. the tradeoff doesnt seem to be happening there, some classes just get both.

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