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What do Strikers and mystic give up in exchange for their strenghts?
Dec 3, 2022, 16:47 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Dec 3, 2022, 23:04 (UTC)
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They don't need accuracy, indeed endgame gauntlets don't build any accuracy accessory. Their accuracy is okay.

They don't need high AP in order to kill people, their damage is great (except for awakened mystic) even at low AP.

They don't need to build ignore resistance, they have a huge passive for that. 

They don't need to build resistances, they are fully protected for 99% of the time.

They have huge DR and EVASION scaling, allowing them to be super tanky by building weird accessory sets like Sicils necklace, centaurus belt etc.

They are great against both DR and Evasion players.

PVP Modifiers are always at their advantage, they basically deal 10% extra damage to everyone and receive 10%+ less damage from everyone.

On top of that, they have basically every kind of selfbuff and debuff while other classes don't even have a single AP or accuracy selfbuff.

Their grabs are the best in the game and their iframe sets is okay, better than most classes at very least.

Mystic (Mostly succession) has a PVP CC on E V E R Y skill, protected or not, and some skills have even more than one. And they have 3s CC. Yes, it's thunderpound which has a 15% evasion debuff as well.

Striker with a single side kick gets: evasion buff, accuracy self buff, movement speed buff... MY CLASS DOESN'T EVEN HAVE THE POSSIBILITY TO GET THOSE SELFBUFFS!!!

How is it fine? 

There are classes which consume HP in order to cast their skills and with 40+ AP than gauntlets they don't hit as hard as them, classes which has NOTHING more than them but a lot of stuff LESS than them. Why? When are we gonna fix this?

Them being irrelevant in nodewars doesn' t make them balanced

Last Edit : Dec 3, 2022, 21:24 (UTC)
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dont forget T3 addon without cooldown.

Last Edit : Dec 3, 2022, 21:55 (UTC)
# 3

and having a 70% reduced damage recieved modifier from Shai(50% for everyone else)

idk about the rest as Ive never played Gauntlets, Shai players have just always been confused by that modifier. Ninja had the same until December 2021, why they only adjusted them was strange

Last Edit : Dec 4, 2022, 15:32 (UTC)
# 4

Basically they give up long range quick mobility, burst damage (except for succ mystic) and large scale performance. Other classes are amazing in large scale but rather lacking in 1v1, so it does count as an argument. 

(As a Life Long DK, I do agree though that gauntlets are overtuned. But maybe that's just my class bias)

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Last Edit : Dec 5, 2022, 01:02 (UTC)
# 6
On: Dec 4, 2022, 15:32 (UTC), Written by Minarya

Basically they give up long range quick mobility, burst damage (except for succ mystic) and large scale performance. Other classes are amazing in large scale but rather lacking in 1v1, so it does count as an argument. 

(As a Life Long DK, I do agree though that gauntlets are overtuned. But maybe that's just my class bias)

This isn't factual.

The TLDR answer to your question OP, is they make practically no compromises in anything, is one of several classes whom this applies to, but is one of the worst offenders.

Reworks increased their AoEs to caster levels "in order to assist dealing with packs" (which just so happens to aid their largescale too and this is the same for many melee classes), they have one of if not the single highest burst damage in the game, incredible sustain and self heal, excellent chase and escape with triple sprint and alternative movement skills, one of the handful of classes that see a benefit from building DP/Eva as well as top PvE performance across the board, all this on top of excelling in 1v1, as is expected.

The best example of a class who excels in largescale and makes sacrifices in absolutely everything else is succession sage, who lacks chase, escape, cancels, speed, sustain, dp, was specifically made to do well in largescale and categorically can't function in other forms of content.

Lo and behold literally no one plays him except maybe two to three top geared players using the tag function because you're hard blocked from about 85% of the games content, can't make silver past Elvia orcs, struggle at low end spots like centaurs due to stamina and can't hold a spot anywhere. 

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Last Edit : Dec 5, 2022, 10:22 (UTC)
# 7
On: Dec 4, 2022, 15:32 (UTC), Written by Minarya

Basically they give up long range quick mobility, burst damage (except for succ mystic) and large scale performance. Other classes are amazing in large scale but rather lacking in 1v1, so it does count as an argument. 

(As a Life Long DK, I do agree though that gauntlets are overtuned. But maybe that's just my class bias)

if u ever played nodewars and faced for example actual (anti)cannon gauntlet goons you'd change your story about gauntlets sucking in some content. 

problem of the game IS that some classes have their spots in most content one way or another even on highest level, while some are basically crap/unfun even at their alleged strong content while sucking to high heavens and back in most of other content. why only some classes get a free pass is beyond me and devs REALLY should explain their logic.

Last Edit : Dec 5, 2022, 05:55 (UTC)
# 8

I'm just waiting for a new mmo that will impress me. It's obvious PA don't know what they're doing. Since when have they be talking about balance? SMH. With all the nerfs and buffs, we're still in the same place. 

Last Edit : Dec 5, 2022, 07:52 (UTC)
# 9
On: Dec 4, 2022, 20:07 (UTC), Written by WhySoSeeryus

if u every played nodewars and faced for example actual (anti)cannon gauntlet goons you'd change your story about gauntlets sucking in some content. 

problem of the game IS that some classes have their spots in most conent one way or another even on highest level, while some are basically crap/unfun even at their alleged strong content while sucking to high heavens and back in most of other content. why only some classes get a free pass is beyond me and devs REALLY should explain their logic.

Yes, correction here. They suck in XvX ball fights. Of course they excel at all the small scale side scuffles that also exist in large scale.

Like i said. Class bias, I also think theyre too much :')

Also awa caster sucks, and you know I agree with you, but just because one spec of one class doesnt exist is not a reason to apply that measuring scale to every class when the overall balance is somewhere else.

Last Edit : Dec 5, 2022, 10:24 (UTC)
# 10
On: Dec 5, 2022, 07:52 (UTC), Written by Minarya

Yes, correction here. They suck in XvX ball fights. Of course they excel at all the small scale side scuffles that also exist in large scale.

Like i said. Class bias, I also think theyre too much :')

Also awa caster sucks, and you know I agree with you, but just because one spec of one class doesnt exist is not a reason to apply that measuring scale to every class when the overall balance is somewhere else.

they can even perform in ball fights as engagers/teasers with (dp gear or some heavier dp oriented build) or backline protectors with their infallible grabs and other gauntlet things. 

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