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OPENING DEBATE ON EVASION AND DR
Jan 21, 2023, 08:55 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jan 30, 2023, 14:43 (UTC)
# 31
On: Jan 30, 2023, 14:11 (UTC), Written by Vanraven

Once again, it makes no sense. If a full glass build kills a tank build then what does it do to non tank builds?  The most interesting thing is you try to separate evasion builds from dr builds. But they are exactly the same, both are tank builds they just go about mitigating damage in different ways. But the entire purpose is the same, to MITIGATE damage. 

A full glass build should not be able to solo a tank build. On the opposite end, tank builds this is including eva should not be able to damage anyone. The entire point of a tank build in any pvp game is to be able to withstand damage on the front lines. If they can't do this then its a failure. 

Well a full tank build not going to get taped by anyone, and not going to deal damage to anyone either even currently. The issue is that these ppl think regular builds and hybrid builds are tank builds cause they reach 400ish DP. But those aren't tank build. Tank build is when you have no ap acessories on and use defensive sub weapon on top....

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Last Edit : Jan 30, 2023, 15:55 (UTC)
# 32

Thanks for the clarification Cat, that makes way more sense.

Last Edit : Jan 30, 2023, 16:00 (UTC)
# 33
On: Jan 30, 2023, 14:11 (UTC), Written by Vanraven

Once again, it makes no sense. If a full glass build kills a tank build then what does it do to non tank builds?  The most interesting thing is you try to separate evasion builds from dr builds. But they are exactly the same, both are tank builds they just go about mitigating damage in different ways. But the entire purpose is the same, to MITIGATE damage. 

A full glass build should not be able to solo a tank build. On the opposite end, tank builds this is including eva should not be able to damage anyone. The entire point of a tank build in any pvp game is to be able to withstand damage on the front lines. If they can't do this then its a failure. 

It definitly does make sense. The problem here is risk vs reward. A full dr build should not be killable by something other than full ap. So if you go a hybrid build or sacrifice some ap to get more acc to also deal with evasion, you should not be able to kill a full dr build.

Also, dr and eva builds are definitly different. Yes, both are tank builds but are countered differently. You won't kill a full eva target if you run only ap and no acc except the base acc your ap gear provides. Same if you run a full acc set that sacrifices a lot of ap for acc, you will not kill a full dr built.

One thing that I'd like to see changed to make this better is to give yellow accessories for every slot that have either dr or eva, so you can actually built a full tank. Right now, some slots don't have a proper dr or eva accessory, limiting your tankability while there are ap and acc accessories for every slot. 

Another problem is that there are not enough downsides to going glasscannon build in bdo, which is pretty much the meta build. You should be less tanky as a glass cannon as you are right now, so you can't just sa/fg trade your way to a win.

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