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Last Edit : Feb 22, 2023, 14:51 (UTC)
# 11
@ArchaicTriad
 
Whatever I say about this topic is not going to please you as I understand you might feel angry that most of your posts have been deleted, but 80% of the comments that were deleted in the Forum Rule thread are posts naming and shaming other users and the rest things not even related to the forum rules. Both situations are covered in our Forum rules sections: ■ Name & Shame / ■ Spam or Trolling Posts

If you have any concerns about your posts being deleted you can send in a ticket to our Customer Support Team and your case will be evaluated.
 
Kind regards.
 
Last Edit : Feb 22, 2023, 18:30 (UTC)
# 12

the forums in their entirety need to be updated/reworked. 

Last Edit : Feb 22, 2023, 20:40 (UTC)
# 13
On: Feb 22, 2023, 14:51 (UTC), Written by [CM]Cadry
@ArchaicTriad
 
Whatever I say about this topic is not going to please you as I understand you might feel angry that most of your posts have been deleted, but 80% of the comments that were deleted in the Forum Rule thread are posts naming and shaming other users and the rest things not even related to the forum rules. Both situations are covered in our Forum rules sections: ■ Name & Shame / ■ Spam or Trolling Posts

If you have any concerns about your posts being deleted you can send in a ticket to our Customer Support Team and your case will be evaluated.
 
Kind regards.
 

Whoa now, when did this become about me?

This matter is not about pleasing me, its about the voice of the people on this forum being taken away when sharing honest and unbiased feedback on any post. 

I have not once referred to any of my content being deleted. My content is not what is in question here. This post is about the method of forum moderation being flawed, and the subject of making a change to it for the better of the community. 

A question I would like answered is:

Can we expect changes to this forum so we can see all posts?

Last Edit : Feb 22, 2023, 20:31 (UTC)
# 14
On: Feb 22, 2023, 20:08 (UTC), Written by ArchaicTriad

Whoa now, when did this become about me?

I think Cadry was just responding to the "irony" comment you had made, where the comments were deleted for a reason but you commented it a negative way assuming they were scrubbed from some kind of abuse of power.

Speaking on this thread in general, I agree that the forums need to be improve and have made a post about this some time ago, however, you're seeing the negative downvotes in an odd way. If you browse around you'll notice what others have mentioned in this thread is true, there are many posts with over fifty downvotes and they're not removed in anyway.

Freedom of speech is there and there's nothing being censored so long as it doesn't break the Forum Rules and they're pretty basic. I've been a victim of removed posts as well but it's simply from sending a meme in a ridiculous thread, as it didn't contribute to the thread, it was removed as expected. I'm sure any posts you're questioning have broken the rules in some way, just took a quick look at them at try to pin it together, I'm sure you're capable.

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Last Edit : Feb 22, 2023, 20:38 (UTC)
# 15
On: Feb 22, 2023, 20:30 (UTC), Written by Thyrnan

I think Cadry was just responding to the "irony" comment you had made, where the comments were deleted for a reason but you commented it a negative way assuming they were scrubbed from some kind of abuse of power.

Speaking on this thread in general, I agree that the forums need to be improve and have made a post about this some time ago, however, you're seeing the negative downvotes in an odd way. If you browse around you'll notice what others have mentioned in this thread is true, there are many posts with over fifty downvotes and they're not removed in anyway.

Freedom of speech is there and there's nothing being censored so long as it doesn't break the Forum Rules and they're pretty basic. I've been a victim of removed posts as well but it's simply from sending a meme in a ridiculous thread, as it didn't contribute to the thread, it was removed as expected. I'm sure any posts you're questioning have broken the rules in some way, just took a quick look at them at try to pin it together, I'm sure you're capable.

Everyone who made a post in that rules section was giving feedback on the established rules and sharing their opinion. 100% of them were scrubbed. 

Take a quick look you say? As a matter of fact.... thats what Im fighting for....

Last Edit : Feb 22, 2023, 20:43 (UTC)
# 16
On: Feb 22, 2023, 14:00 (UTC), Written by ArchaicTriad

Following the hyperlink provided for the "Forum Rules here".

I scroll down to see the comments section.

This is irony in its purest form. 

All of the feedback has been scrubbed from the post, its unreal. 

for some reason forums don't have a lock thread functionality so for any of those official posts that aren't supposed to have comments they just delete comments as they go lol

Last Edit : Feb 22, 2023, 21:37 (UTC)
# 17
On: Feb 22, 2023, 20:08 (UTC), Written by ArchaicTriad

This matter is not about pleasing me, its about the voice of the people on this forum being taken away when sharing honest and unbiased feedback on any post. 

I have not once referred to any of my content being deleted. My content is not what is in question here. This post is about the method of forum moderation being flawed, and the subject of making a change to it for the better of the community. 

A question I would like answered is:

Can we expect changes to this forum so we can see all posts?

A CM to delete a post means that someone had broken a rule somehow. It's not about censorship. That's a cheap way of looking at the situation. Usually this is the last thing one should think about.

Even I had deleted posts in the past, but I understood why they got deleted at least. And it's not because of censorship. No. I am responsible for my own actions. There are times the forums need cleaning up and therefore comes an answer to your question:

Believe me. You don't want to see every post unless you want the forums to become... A pain for the eyes to put it as lightly as I can. Without any strict moderation the forums wouldn't be a place I'd consider reading. Let alone sharing any thoughts or knowledge. I wouldn't bother.

Last Edit : Feb 23, 2023, 07:22 (UTC)
# 18

As a person who is active in the online community and creating materials about this game. I will admit that some of my content was removed by the forum mods but in every case, it was an expected removal due to the content being a bit too dramatized. I think it was fair for the mods to expect civil discourse and am okay with the fact that they sometimes remove my posts/threads when the civility fell below expectations. I do have somewhat of a complaint for not getting notified of these instances nor did it allow me to review my own content. Unless I'm actively watching and recording my own post history or another player informs me of the removal/content of the post then there is usually little way to know what was removed or why. That being said, a post has to be pretty bad to get serious repercussions beyond removal so this may be a give/take type of situation.

Gosh, this has been a long way of saying I got my posts removed and the system is a bit murky and doesn't notify us of the occurrence but it also doesn't punish us overly other than revoking the message in the post/thread.

However, I have never had a legitimate post that was thoughtful and on-topic about the game get locked or censored, except one time on Reddit when they banned a thread containing a youtube video for the NA 2022 Donkey Race which isn't run directly by PA but was sad to see it (Of all things xD!) removed. I did stop making content for the Reddit community so please feel free to congratulate the Reddit moderators.

Last Edit : Feb 23, 2023, 08:35 (UTC)
# 19
@asdsadfas That's exactly the situation. We have suggested a few times to add a lock function to threads, so official posts like the rules do not get commented with random stuff.
 
@Dreadspark A notification system for moderations is something that I would like to see implemented! I think it would make moderations more clear and transparent for everyone.
 
@Thyrnan I am keeping an eye on that suggestion thread. We will suggest these changes to the web design team soon.
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