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Lahn's Stamina
May 20, 2023, 23:12 (UTC)
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Last Edit : May 20, 2023, 23:12 (UTC)
# 1

How do Lahn keep up with all this rebooted class combusting everywhere with high speed? lahn isn't an SA trading class and every single mobility (even a small mobility) skills uses stamina leaving lahn with no stamina recover time besiding sitting on lingering protections or on idle position.

idk why but i have a feeling that the many post was created regarding Lahn's stamina issue management.

Last Edit : May 20, 2023, 23:46 (UTC)
# 2
Écrit le : 20 mai 2023, 23:12 (UTC), par : Awgust

How do Lahn keep up with all this rebooted class combusting everywhere with high speed? lahn isn't an SA trading class and every single mobility (even a small mobility) skills uses stamina leaving lahn with no stamina recover time besiding sitting on lingering protections or on idle position.

idk why but i have a feeling that the many post was created regarding Lahn's stamina issue management.

Lahn is really busted, especially in awakening. The class is super fast with a ranged grab and very high damage. Plus the class has very good protections, SA / Iframe making her really dangerous and annoying.

Giving her more staminia means she'll have to lose something because right now she's good state in 1 v 1.

Last Edit : May 21, 2023, 00:39 (UTC)
# 3
On: May 20, 2023, 23:36 (UTC), Written by Anvorka

Lahn is really busted, especially in awakening. The class is super fast with a ranged grab and very high damage. Plus the class has very good protections, SA / Iframe making her really dangerous and annoying.

Giving her more staminia means she'll have to lose something because right now she's good state in 1 v 1.

Damage isn't busted but she sure is fast but at the cost of huge stamina and sustain. Playing with her again for over 2weeks now after 1.5 years... Same old squisy, any skill just seems to delete her. Her attack speeds are much faster now but her mobility compared to after reboot, she is lacking just because everything takes huge stamina.

Every single mobility skills takes huge stamina and stamina doesn't recover unless idle or S-blocking or lingering protection.

Absolute: Spring Breeze | 200 Stamina | Forward Guard

Absolute: Blade Dance   | 200 Stamina | Forward Guard

Primrose Sprint II           | 200 Stamina | iframe

Nimbus Stride III            | 300 Stamina | Super Armor

Flow: Nimbus Stride       | 100 Stamina | Super Armor

Bloody Stride                  | 200 Stamina | Super Armor

Phantom Dance              | 250 Stamina | iframe (Super Armor During Cooldown)

Last Edit : May 21, 2023, 01:53 (UTC)
# 4
Écrit le : 21 mai 2023, 00:39 (UTC), par : Awgust

Damage isn't busted but she sure is fast but at the cost of huge stamina and sustain. Playing with her again for over 2weeks now after 1.5 years... Same old squisy, any skill just seems to delete her. Her attack speeds are much faster now but her mobility compared to after reboot, she is lacking just because everything takes huge stamina.

Every single mobility skills takes huge stamina and stamina doesn't recover unless idle or S-blocking or lingering protection.

Absolute: Spring Breeze | 200 Stamina | Forward Guard

Absolute: Blade Dance   | 200 Stamina | Forward Guard

Primrose Sprint II           | 200 Stamina | iframe

Nimbus Stride III            | 300 Stamina | Super Armor

Flow: Nimbus Stride       | 100 Stamina | Super Armor

Bloody Stride                  | 200 Stamina | Super Armor

Phantom Dance              | 250 Stamina | iframe (Super Armor During Cooldown)

Most skills you listed are protected. This is the reason why you have stamina on it. Look Phantom Dance, Super Armor in cooldown, reason why it uses 250 stamina.

Most protected skills in the game are consuming stamina. If it wasn't the case, it would have been a mess, even more than right now. If you don't want them using stamina, then ask PA to remove some protection.
We don't need a second Berserker Succession or Nova Awakening in the game, without talking your class can fly.

Look, on Warrior most my movements are unprotected, and those movements don't really use stamina, but mana. My few protected movements are using stamina or they have a cooldown between 7 seconds to 12 seconds. My only dash use 150 stamina, Iframe but nothing during cooldown (3 seconds).
And it's the way that movements, specially protected one should be balance on all classes.

Lahn is like Sage awakening or Hashashin awakening. You have a very good rotations of protected movements, and you have to be fast or play differently. But once you get grab / CC by Lahn or Sage, Hashashin you get burst easily in no time.
This is the way your class has been designed and the way it should stay.

Last Edit : May 21, 2023, 07:15 (UTC)
# 5

Working as intended. Stamina is there to limit your movement.

Also btw lahn is one of the most mobile class in the game rn, so it's kinda l2p issue here...

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Last Edit : May 21, 2023, 13:08 (UTC)
# 6

hummm...if you guys say so...

Last Edit : May 21, 2023, 13:36 (UTC)
# 7
Écrit le : 21 mai 2023, 13:08 (UTC), par : Awgust

hummm...if you guys say so...

I understand you're feeling about this. It's not fun. It's the same situation has Succession Kunoichi, they had to nerf the stamina because the class was contanstly moving while being fully protected and killing players.
And it was a serious issue.

And reducing Lahn's stamina cost will do the same. And like I said, the game has serious about classes being over protected with insane DMG / movements.

Last Edit : May 21, 2023, 16:25 (UTC)
# 8
On: May 21, 2023, 13:36 (UTC), Written by Anvorka

I understand you're feeling about this. It's not fun. It's the same situation has Succession Kunoichi, they had to nerf the stamina because the class was contanstly moving while being fully protected and killing players.
And it was a serious issue.

And reducing Lahn's stamina cost will do the same. And like I said, the game has serious about classes being over protected with insane DMG / movements.

Awak kuno moves constantly and i don't want Lahn's stamina to be reduced, i just want PA to revert her changes cause she really can't recover stamina unless she is idle or lingering and in this one shot meta, sitting on lingering is a big punishments as many class will just delete you on spot with very less effort. Knowing lahn's big trait is her range grab, people have already figured out many way to deal with it.
From my pov, Lahn is like that "going with the flow of wind" class in her pre-awak state and "I will murder you" in her awak state, seeing most of her mobility comes from pre-awak...

Dueled with kuno awak today for 4hrs and Lahn well... got butchered. Kuno's vaccum combined with her spin-to-win does insane dmg, totally a 1 shot. deleted in less then 1.5sec... 
yestarday dueled with Hash for 1hr, that class has 4 ways to CC me through my FG and can cover huge distance....welp, he also has range grab and i got butchered most of the time cause lahn's skill AOE aren't that big to hit 360.. it's now giga fast... much faster then what i remember.

I am still trying to figure out how i can beat someone who can legit one shot me by just breathing next to me without grabbing! i feel like if i relay on grab to much, it will negatively effect my learning growth.

Last Edit : May 21, 2023, 20:03 (UTC)
# 9
Écrit le : 21 mai 2023, 16:25 (UTC), par : Awgust

Awak kuno moves constantly and i don't want Lahn's stamina to be reduced, i just want PA to revert her changes cause she really can't recover stamina unless she is idle or lingering and in this one shot meta, sitting on lingering is a big punishments as many class will just delete you on spot with very less effort. Knowing lahn's big trait is her range grab, people have already figured out many way to deal with it.
From my pov, Lahn is like that "going with the flow of wind" class in her pre-awak state and "I will murder you" in her awak state, seeing most of her mobility comes from pre-awak...

Dueled with kuno awak today for 4hrs and Lahn well... got butchered. Kuno's vaccum combined with her spin-to-win does insane dmg, totally a 1 shot. deleted in less then 1.5sec... 
yestarday dueled with Hash for 1hr, that class has 4 ways to CC me through my FG and can cover huge distance....welp, he also has range grab and i got butchered most of the time cause lahn's skill AOE aren't that big to hit 360.. it's now giga fast... much faster then what i remember.

I am still trying to figure out how i can beat someone who can legit one shot me by just breathing next to me without grabbing! i feel like if i relay on grab to much, it will negatively effect my learning growth.

Actual Awakening Kunoici is ridiculous and has to be adjust.

About you, Lahn and the meta, I can tell you're living what I'm living everyday on my Warrior. I'm 716 GS, 315/402, and some class can just roll over me like I was butter meanwhile some can just do everything.
The issue isn't the Lahn but the game.
And I'm telling you by playing the one of the only "balance" class right now. By balance I mean I don't SA trade becaue I can't, I have to CC then combo in order to kill. I have to use my movement correctly because they are unprotected. And I have to be cautious because my block is getting destroyed.

Last Edit : May 21, 2023, 20:46 (UTC)
# 10
On: May 21, 2023, 20:03 (UTC), Written by Anvorka

Actual Awakening Kunoici is ridiculous and has to be adjust.

About you, Lahn and the meta, I can tell you're living what I'm living everyday on my Warrior. I'm 716 GS, 315/402, and some class can just roll over me like I was butter meanwhile some can just do everything.
The issue isn't the Lahn but the game.
And I'm telling you by playing the one of the only "balance" class right now. By balance I mean I don't SA trade becaue I can't, I have to CC then combo in order to kill. I have to use my movement correctly because they are unprotected. And I have to be cautious because my block is getting destroyed.

Cap is getting higher. meta is one shot. People are completely out gearing each other. Only those who actually likes to grind, progress their gear while other who doesn't like grind and falls asleep within 30mins of grind are left behind cause they want progress through PVP which we don't have.

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