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#Maehwa
Buff this Class
Jan 28, 2021, 00:13 (UTC)
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Maybe it is the right time that we will be heard? I hope that the new management takes care of this first.

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Instead, measures should be taken against those who judge the opinion of others and want to deny freedom of speech, you are not obliged to read or answer if it bothers you, otherwise in a forum we discuss and argue, here there is no offense and no reason to ban something, anyone is free to express their opinion on the game, even those who are against it and without judging people but only by arguing their own ideas and motivations inherent in the topic.

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Just ignore Tsougkrana I can already tell he pointless to talk to. All his post as of now have basically been buff wiszard nerf everything that not wiszard. Basically your standard wiszard main that only plays wiszard and will only play wiszard. I mean look what he doing he demanding everyone to shut up for trying use a forum made to provide feedback on a class. Seriously this the class section of the forums were we're suppose to provide feedback and our thoughts about the classes in the game and alright he told someone to stop providing feedback on their class or other classes not once not twice but 5 times. An has even gone as far as demanding people get banned for using the forums for the exact reason it exacts. Literally zero reason to acknowledge someone with such a shallow way of thinking.

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On: Jan 30, 2021, 00:40 (UTC), Written by Tsougkrana

You are not "providing feedback" you are just spamming "buff me" even though your class is excessively strong already. This "buff me" spam is in fact reall detrimental to the forum working correctly as it drowns out actual discussion. And its not like you dont know that the class is already in a too good spot you just ask for buffs regardless, aka spam.

Firstly wow imagin being so upset over some disagreeing with you on a forum that you have to go to every post that person made and spam the same message not once not twice but 4 times. In four completely different threads. A even in threads that don't even relate to the orginal thread were our discussion started. Seriously your asking for poeple to be banned on the forums for literally no reason but in less than 10 mins you've broken basically half of this forums rules. Second how is your comments of telling people to shut up any form of feedback all your doing in cyber bulling and trying to censors other's opinions while not actually providing any feedback your self. See this why I told Kurtferro your pointless to talk to cause you literally are pointless to talk to. I could have a more productive conversation with a 2 year than I can with you. Anyway this last time I'll ever read another post you ever make. Cause you've made 10 post now and 9 of them have been pointless dribble.

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On: Jan 30, 2021, 00:40 (UTC), Written by Tsougkrana

You are not "providing feedback" you are just spamming "buff me" even though your class is excessively strong already. This "buff me" spam is in fact reall detrimental to the forum working correctly as it drowns out actual discussion. And its not like you dont know that the class is already in a too good spot you just ask for buffs regardless, aka spam.

Imagine thinking that Maehwa is excessively strong. The class is so excessively strong which is why it's always a rare sight to see a Maehwa and even a rarer sight to see an awakened Maehwa.

Buff Mae, remove slow stacking, I frame on sleet and make the chase I frame not a meme. Class needs more than that but that's all I can really recall at the moment.

Last Edit : Jan 30, 2021, 18:47 (UTC)
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On: Jan 28, 2021, 00:32 (UTC), Written by Kurtferro

All requests that take away something to give something more useful to the class, there is nothing that is given more in reality, so i call it balance not buffs.

 

Awakening/Succession:

 

1 - Remove iframe from dash add mov speed buff 8% for 6 seconds when not in cd (3 second)

"iframe on this skill is not manageable in the way suitable for this class, the speed buff gives us some supremacy (back like should be) in movement and allows us to move unprotected by running like other classes, instead of being slower, in long distances we can manage the stamina in a better way and protect a little from mov speed debuffs that are too strong now"

 

2 - Add iframe instead a SA to Stigma while moving and set it 3second CD for both. (succession and awakening)

"It is the only real defense that we can play against a grab, not having it we must have an efficient defense in return, moreover since the SA was introduced due to skills with high CC and hits there is a slowdown in the movement that causes the incorrect positioning causing us to lose one of our primary skills"

 

3 - Stub Arrow, remove use from cd and lower it on 8 seconds from 14..

"it is the only medium distance engagement we have (stiff CC) unprotected and practically without damage, 14 CDs are really too many and the CD resets every time the skill is used in CD, at this point lower the CD and don't give the possibility of being used outside of 8 seconds."

 

Succession:

 

1 - Remove stun from Blooming and add SA

"This is our primary damage skill, it has a pretty high 15 second CD, a limited front-only hitbox and a pretty long animation, but at least give us the chance to use it safely when needed... we can live without the stun.. and in this way the long animation with iframe would make sense, instead of just being canceled it could be used in some cases."

 

2 - Blind trust: you have removed stun for stiff.. ok but maybe reduce stamina cost of this skill to 50?

"It would help us a little bit to deal with the BIG stamina problem we have!"

 

What do you think?

Thanks

This what the OP suggested for Maehwa in different thread. Honestly agree with most of these changes but the one for stub arrow and stigma.

 

For stub arrow yes it unprotected but the range and animation speed on it make it fairly protected when fighting against most classes like say striker, mystic, kuno, succ zerker, warrior, bascially most melee classes so reducing it CD IMO would be a bad thing and just encourage Maehaw and Musa to just spam in endless to no end (which is kind what most really bad Musa and Maehaw already do). I do agree it shouldn't be usable off CD though. Personal I hate that skills can be used off CD 1 because most skills being used off CD are usless they do zero damage and don't provide any benefit so why would you use them off CD, second because it teaches new players back tricks and makes them spam skills off CD and teaches bad habits. There are a few skills I like being used off CD like dashes, and Kuno's sah charkram chain crash (sense it a T3 addon skill so it lets you keep your 30 monster AP on all the time which is needed to grind effectively with Kuno awakening.). But for the most part many skills have zero need to be used on CD and the fact that some skills CD reset even when there used on CD is just a bad game design.

 

As for Stigma I agree it should have Iframe on the movement part but I don't agree with a CD reduction. What I would change is remove Stigma stiffness (since Maehwa has a good amount of engagment skills already) and make the whole skill a SA. This basically give the skill full protection and lets it be used to evade grabs but doesn't make it a god tier counter to grabs. Sense most grabs are unprotected keeping the stiffness with Iframe start would basically give Maehwa a way to instantly counter and punish anyone for trying to grab her making it almost impossible to grab a skilled Maehaw player which would be extremely bad for classes that require grabs in order to combo like Succ Zerk, Awakening Lahn, or Awakening Guardian.

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