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Jun 4, 2024, 04:12 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jun 4, 2024, 04:12 (UTC)
# 1

You know, I switched onto Succ Ranger and never switched off. Sure, I played other classes to start, and for awhile I didn't have enough AP to do a rift boss fast, so I wouldn't do it on Ranger, but once I got my damage right, I have always been Team Succ.

Can someone make an argument as to why this isn't the worst PvE class in the game? haha. Maybe Shai is worse. I told someone it's worse than Succ Nova, imo. The problem, I believe, is a design issue. I have played Archer before, and I rolled one again for my 5th season character. It's amazing the way he jumps around, how attacks flow into other attacks, ranged COMBOS WOW. He can truly farm as a ranged character.

Succ Ranger has this stilted combination of skills that maybe weren't meant to be combined. It's mainly about getting in a spot and just outputting a bunch of damage in whatever order you can. Like, when I first started farming stronger mobs, I would jump in, do the awakening skills, jump back, do blasting gust, then clean up. Didn't really need DP for that. Now, I realize using Will of The Wind first makes sense. So, you hit it with Will, you wanna get melee for your awakening skills at some point, though. You can do that one 'special' skill that you can press Q right after into blasting gust, then add in whatever else. It probably differs per person, BUT...

The main thing is that it is Succ Ranger's raw damage that they farm with. Where would they farm well? Stationary mobs that they could blow up and were tanky. Are they good at that, though? Not really, that I've seen. Maybe in some spot. I haven't done Hexe.

Now, they are changing DR, making classes more tanky (assuming?) and yet that will likely not help the Succ Ranger because she is the ultimate glass cannon. However, by improving the basic defense of every class, it offers the opportunity to increase Succ Ranger damage without making her more (or much more) powerful. PvE damage and PvP damage are different, too,, but if a Succ Ranger had more damage, she still couldn't pull trash like some other classes due to limitations, but she could really eat some mobs. It would be a blast, no pun, to farm even at a bit less effectiveness.

Opposed to that "Beating yout head on the wall" feeling I seem to get when I am trying to fight mobs that take a little more damage to kill at the moment.

Thoughts?

Last Edit : Jun 10, 2024, 17:53 (UTC)
# 2

Just play what you like to play unless you want to min/max. Awa Ranger is superior over Succ Ranger at high end spots, can't think of a single high end spot where Succ beats Awa. (You can clearly see the DPS output difference at Bossblizz, My PB for C7 Sangoon is 4:12 as Succ Ranger but If I pop up in the top 20 it's among the bottom as the only Succ Ranger in the list). 

First time Highlands I managed to get 27k ish Trash in my first hour and I was being told to smash the legs within 2 attacks wich felt impossible. after 6 hours I optimised it for my Gear (310/312/422) and got 34.6k trash and I think I could improve it sligthly higher even though I mowed down legs During their first attack or sligthly after. for better numbers I would just need higher gear. As long as I hit 33k Trash an hour there with Yellow LS and Agris I think I am doing well enough n.n

Succ Ranger only excels other classes at low lvl area's by mostly spamming Descending current. No one can outgrind me at Kagtums, If someone tries to interupt my spot (got a second Ranger with a bit above Tuvala gear) I just snatch all the mobs they are going for (had it happen with Musa, Wizard (He did took some mobs) and Guardian (was really funny to see her try taking my rota xD)).

But if you check Garmoth (website), you'll see you'll hit lower than most avarages on high end spots. so I approve, give us more damage and Awakenings Shift+E (Spirit's Haven) for the last protection we need <3, we are sitting ducks in PvP with just 2 Viable I-frames.

Tips: Lock moves like Pinpoint, moving shot etc.

Tearing Arrow can be flown into from half your moves while skipping the charging animation and is one of your biggest damage but unprotected.

Binding Arrow does really good damage as well and can be flown into from half your moves as well. For example: After pressing space to use shotgun press F->Shift+Lmb+Rmb Release at the correct frames and directly press S+E.

Also practise the Kick Cancel/flows, they can be usefull ;)

Last Edit : Jun 12, 2024, 00:25 (UTC)
# 3
On: Jun 4, 2024, 04:12 (UTC), Written by Maltie

You know, I switched onto Succ Ranger and never switched off. Sure, I played other classes to start, and for awhile I didn't have enough AP to do a rift boss fast, so I wouldn't do it on Ranger, but once I got my damage right, I have always been Team Succ.

Can someone make an argument as to why this isn't the worst PvE class in the game? haha. Maybe Shai is worse. I told someone it's worse than Succ Nova, imo. The problem, I believe, is a design issue. I have played Archer before, and I rolled one again for my 5th season character. It's amazing the way he jumps around, how attacks flow into other attacks, ranged COMBOS WOW. He can truly farm as a ranged character.

Succ Ranger has this stilted combination of skills that maybe weren't meant to be combined. It's mainly about getting in a spot and just outputting a bunch of damage in whatever order you can. Like, when I first started farming stronger mobs, I would jump in, do the awakening skills, jump back, do blasting gust, then clean up. Didn't really need DP for that. Now, I realize using Will of The Wind first makes sense. So, you hit it with Will, you wanna get melee for your awakening skills at some point, though. You can do that one 'special' skill that you can press Q right after into blasting gust, then add in whatever else. It probably differs per person, BUT...

The main thing is that it is Succ Ranger's raw damage that they farm with. Where would they farm well? Stationary mobs that they could blow up and were tanky. Are they good at that, though? Not really, that I've seen. Maybe in some spot. I haven't done Hexe.

Now, they are changing DR, making classes more tanky (assuming?) and yet that will likely not help the Succ Ranger because she is the ultimate glass cannon. However, by improving the basic defense of every class, it offers the opportunity to increase Succ Ranger damage without making her more (or much more) powerful. PvE damage and PvP damage are different, too,, but if a Succ Ranger had more damage, she still couldn't pull trash like some other classes due to limitations, but she could really eat some mobs. It would be a blast, no pun, to farm even at a bit less effectiveness.

Opposed to that "Beating yout head on the wall" feeling I seem to get when I am trying to fight mobs that take a little more damage to kill at the moment.

Thoughts?

Thoughts? Succ ranger is broken and awaken ranger is even more broken. The hit studder your class causes because pearl abyss buys the worst performing servers it can buy causes the game to break for more classes than you realize.

Not only does the class not deserve more damage because it benefits from high mobility, it should also be nerfed for the amount of attacks it can perform during a period of time.

Last Edit : Jun 12, 2024, 16:48 (UTC)
# 4

Succ Ranger is cute for low end and that's about it, the only content she is good at is kill securing in group fights and NW+.

But in AoS you're kinda trolling to pick her, and PvE wise I would say she is extremely bad.

-prime descending arrow should linger for more damage, maybe give it 50% crit rate PvE and higher base damage, but no crit in PvP to avoid abuse.

-Abyssal skill looks extremely lackluster, I would give it a frontal guard at LEAST.

-succession (awakening) skills are also lackluster - needs more crit rate or base damage

For PA they always forget about the female counterparts when revamping classes, and Archer is a god tier SSS grinder now, while Ranger is stuck using 2x the APM for awakening to get back attacks. So it does need some loving and I would look into these changes first!

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