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#Nova
Let's fix Succession Nova
Jun 11, 2024, 10:49 (UTC)
994 8
Last Edit : Jun 13, 2024, 22:08 (UTC)
# 1

Mobility -> she is very slow moving.

Up + F
Down + F

These two skills should provide more movement + damage, to help her "low end" grind and to move from pack to pack.

"Awakening/Prime" skills should also move her more, I would look into ways to adding chains to other skills, it's like nothing in her kit flows.

Skills -> Shift + E (she stands still spinning her weapon), is an amazing skill. I would even make it "cast while on cooldown".
"Awakening/Prime" skills are pretty lackluster -> the HP+ on hit doesn't seem to do much, and the damage doesn't seem to be there. 

Again, cooldowns are pretty high. So she can't "fire off" every prime skill without downtime. And she struggles to get back attacks so.. I would increase crit rate % on a majority of her kit.

Sustain -> After the removal of "HP loss" on skill cast, into Mana... she's still the same. Requires infinite mana potion now instead, needs +mana onto a better base skill.

Also because she doesn't dodge attacks, her durablity goes down FAST.

PvP -> The summon spamming knockdowns at 50% hp and below is silly, I would rework this into SHIFT + E as a downsmash on final strike.

Other than that, she has everything a PvPer needs, big aoe slows, and a ranged grab. Just lacks on mobility!

Edit - Her Shift E is a prime skill now, but is still lackluster overall. Every other reply disregarded the moblity suggestions lol!

Last Edit : Jun 12, 2024, 22:09 (UTC)
# 2

So this just tells me you dont play the class at all lul,

1) Shift + E already has a prime version and adding a downsmash from axian would negate the protected KD it does at the end animation.

2) The summon spamming was addressed which procs on 40% not 50% it used to spawn alot faster now it has a set pattern, CC pop up, CC pop up, DPS roar then it has an internal CD and repeats. On release it did what you described because it spammed over and over. 

3) She did recieve multiple crit % buffs that allow her to reach 100% crit rate on skills. Open your skills and look at your F keybind skill it gives 50% crit rate buff and cancels into ALOT of skills. Some of her skills even got buffed to be 100% on their own.

Math for you: skill crit: (50%) + 5/5 crit: (18%) + F buff crit: (50%) = 118% crit rate. 

4) If she has everything she needs for pvp she would alot more prevelant on the pvp scene. Damage falls off the higher your opponent is geared. Especially with this upcoming DR patch gonna be doing even less damage. She is the only shield class that lacks an on demand heal, and like you said mobility is an issue (which is why i think they gave her a strong shield). In tournaments as of late and the past she has been getting beaten by other classes, even the other nova spec because she is not as PvP oriented as you claim. She is a great noob stomper, but thats about it.

Last Edit : Jun 12, 2024, 23:21 (UTC)
# 3
On: Jun 12, 2024, 22:09 (UTC), Written by DaMidSuccNova

So this just tells me you dont play the class at all lul,

1) Shift + E already has a prime version and adding a downsmash from axian would negate the protected KD it does at the end animation.

2) The summon spamming was addressed which procs on 40% not 50% it used to spawn alot faster now it has a set pattern, CC pop up, CC pop up, DPS roar then it has an internal CD and repeats. On release it did what you described because it spammed over and over. 

3) She did recieve multiple crit % buffs that allow her to reach 100% crit rate on skills. Open your skills and look at your F keybind skill it gives 50% crit rate buff and cancels into ALOT of skills. Some of her skills even got buffed to be 100% on their own.

Math for you: skill crit: (50%) + 5/5 crit: (18%) + F buff crit: (50%) = 118% crit rate. 

4) If she has everything she needs for pvp she would alot more prevelant on the pvp scene. Damage falls off the higher your opponent is geared. Especially with this upcoming DR patch gonna be doing even less damage. She is the only shield class that lacks an on demand heal, and like you said mobility is an issue (which is why i think they gave her a strong shield). In tournaments as of late and the past she has been getting beaten by other classes, even the other nova spec because she is not as PvP oriented as you claim. She is a great noob stomper, but thats about it.

The only thing is that the crit rate on skills aren't applied to the summons, but your crit level and buffs are, but even then they cap at 98% with addon/F/lv5 

But yeah OP is wrong and outdated on like.. all of this

we have a proper post here still

On what buffs we need

Which due to the upcoming hit changes and we are getting a 3% accuracy buff on our shift Q, all those modifiers listed in the post would have to be adjusted

Last Edit : Jun 13, 2024, 22:05 (UTC)
# 4
On: Jun 12, 2024, 22:09 (UTC), Written by DaMidSuccNova

So this just tells me you dont play the class at all lul,

1) Shift + E already has a prime version and adding a downsmash from axian would negate the protected KD it does at the end animation.

2) The summon spamming was addressed which procs on 40% not 50% it used to spawn alot faster now it has a set pattern, CC pop up, CC pop up, DPS roar then it has an internal CD and repeats. On release it did what you described because it spammed over and over. 

3) She did recieve multiple crit % buffs that allow her to reach 100% crit rate on skills. Open your skills and look at your F keybind skill it gives 50% crit rate buff and cancels into ALOT of skills. Some of her skills even got buffed to be 100% on their own.

Math for you: skill crit: (50%) + 5/5 crit: (18%) + F buff crit: (50%) = 118% crit rate. 

4) If she has everything she needs for pvp she would alot more prevelant on the pvp scene. Damage falls off the higher your opponent is geared. Especially with this upcoming DR patch gonna be doing even less damage. She is the only shield class that lacks an on demand heal, and like you said mobility is an issue (which is why i think they gave her a strong shield). In tournaments as of late and the past she has been getting beaten by other classes, even the other nova spec because she is not as PvP oriented as you claim. She is a great noob stomper, but thats about it.

1.Shift + E still weak, even with prime version sadly DESPITE the new Abyssal skill being added to her rotation.
2.CC on X amount of health for free isn't good for the class, at 40% hp you are just going to get popped in group scenarios and like others have said - capped / noob bashing.
3. 100% crit rate on very slow skills, nothing with summons - again lacking damage here; an Axion/Minion tweak would put her in a better spot. I think the devs thought every skill (summons) giving a -dp debuff was enough, but even then it's only a -15 dp debuff. 

4. So you agree with everything I said thanks, no mobility = bad, this means grabbed in 1v1's and floor/melted fodder in group/NW.

Last Edit : Jun 13, 2024, 22:07 (UTC)
# 5
On: Jun 12, 2024, 23:04 (UTC), Written by Strega

The only thing is that the crit rate on skills aren't applied to the summons, but your crit level and buffs are, but even then they cap at 98% with addon/F/lv5 

But yeah OP is wrong and outdated on like.. all of this

we have a proper post here still

On what buffs we need

Which due to the upcoming hit changes and we are getting a 3% accuracy buff on our shift Q, all those modifiers listed in the post would have to be adjusted

2023 Post, outdated and most likely disregarded.

It pretty much says the summons suck, and the post is WAY too long to be translated to KR to really do anything.

Last Edit : Jun 15, 2024, 04:58 (UTC)
# 6

Regardless, Succ Nova could use improvement.

Last Edit : Jun 16, 2024, 03:28 (UTC)
# 7
On: Jun 13, 2024, 22:05 (UTC), Written by Nhifuu

1.Shift + E still weak, even with prime version sadly DESPITE the new Abyssal skill being added to her rotation.
2.CC on X amount of health for free isn't good for the class, at 40% hp you are just going to get popped in group scenarios and like others have said - capped / noob bashing.
3. 100% crit rate on very slow skills, nothing with summons - again lacking damage here; an Axion/Minion tweak would put her in a better spot. I think the devs thought every skill (summons) giving a -dp debuff was enough, but even then it's only a -15 dp debuff. 

4. So you agree with everything I said thanks, no mobility = bad, this means grabbed in 1v1's and floor/melted fodder in group/NW.

Well no I agree with nothing you said because you are talking about issues of the past. The crit was adjusted for everything including the summons to be 100% on all the skills, or 98% on summons for the entire combo. So its not just on "slow" skills unless you dont know how to cancel properly. And shift E being weak doesn't mean a prime version doesn't exist please review the current kit before complaining about stuff PA has actually addressed lol. As far as the 40% enrage, no one likes it, but its only free if your opponent allows that lol the class has been out for years if they don't know about enrage thats on them and like i said above it has a pattern that PA changed it to from its prevous iteration you seem to remember it as. 

On the issue of mobility, that has been slightly addressed to give basically double the dashes so instead of 4 you get 8 (which is still pretty low, but they did address it). The actual issues are summon damage being too loaded into the succ novas kit when they dont get special attack mod benefits lowering damage per skill vs a non summon class, the ability to retreat over long distances, and the CD of certain command skills that don't have a CC or even count as one of her nuking abilities. Buffing the damage on the nova command skills should alieviate the issue a bit, but in your OG post you address none of those because again those are past issues. 

Last Edit : Jun 18, 2024, 16:18 (UTC)
# 8

What we need is show shield option on horse ! It is immersion breaking ! Why can i see shields on otehr novas when mounted and not on my ?

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