So I just logged into the game excited about all the hype only to find out my entire set of accessories will not allow me to make the Karazads. On top of that at around 25B per accessory 100B total for my set of 4 at PEN. I use the 2 "free" accessories to fill out the rest of the set & even those can be used to make the mats for Karazads. Now keep in mind that the Jin Crystal you get can be bought for 17B as of the time of this post is a huge loss. Not only does this mean my ENTIRE set is holding me back but now I have to spend more silver to buy what I need to get the Karazads OR OR OR grind for it. Either way, I have to get the Karazad set enhanced to the point where I can even take off the Tungrads to sell or melt. By this time I think Tungrads will be min listed at the lowest price, but soon even the crystals will probably meet the same fate because as far as I can see this crystal won't be very popular compared to the other ones. Even if I'm wrong about that an 8B loss per 25B accessory that few people will buy anymore since they don't want to lose out on 24B for no good reason. Anyway, I hope everyone with a Tungrad set is as pissed off as I am right now & will make their anger heard by PA. I'm personally not going to be giving them my time & energy until this is fixed. I've been playing since launch & it pains me to have to go play the current market rival for something to do since looking at the screen while logged in is making me sick to my stomach.

XplicitX / NA

I gues I will made the new accessories and melt my tungart set to enchance. If I end up with lower GS due to lack of luck (still cant make my second PEN weapon) I will just quit. PA made me almost dont play. I gues this will be the end. I'll see one of those days...

I get this i am getting vewry tired of having to up grade again so all it does is make me do more life skills so I do not have to toss all the silver i make into something all over again you just added Weapons and dump this on top of us for new Accessories there seem to never be and end and yes it get to you. All I see more and more silver loss and getting no where.

So I'll have to sink 30B-ish into getting the same GS not the worst thing ever, but who is going to buy my Tungrads? TONS of us have them because they were the next best thing to Debos. The only thing they are good for now is crystals & you can buy those for way less. No matter what I'll be losing a LOT of silver for no reason whatsoever. I have no clue what the lowest price is going to look like, but go ahead & look at the market trend for most of them. All you see is a line going straight down & that will continue until they drop below 19B I guess? Since that's the max price on the crystal. Who knows maybe even less before people will see a reason to buy them? For all we know even that crystal will plummet. The earrings are slightly less than the crystal right now so they are selling, but those are the "free" ones I use because I bought Narc earrings to swap out for Kama grind spots since they cost 10B less for the set at the time. My only option would be to melt them & sell the crystal so that's 20B I lose if I sell right now plus the 30B to make the Karazards for a net loss of 50B. At 1B for an hour of grinding which is kind of average at endgame, I have to spend 50 hours (a full work week with overtime) to get back what I lost. So you see it's not just the silver I lose but a HUGE amount of time as well all because PA decided this was somehow a good idea. I don't know why they would reward some people who had the "right" set of non-Debo accessories & cuck the rest.

Gear loses value over time, thats ok and how it should be, the issue is the time.. it took years before Accessoiries lost in value and now the last months, I think since Debo earring Release Everything is Like Crazy

My first pen disto was @180Billion, second one @150B, I bought pen ogre @85B, pen Blackstar @125B, my tet Debo, Belt etcs around 80B each my gear lost like 550B in value wow^^ But its a Game, I am having fun and the new accessories are really good imo, its going in the right direction 

well do not see a rush to change to the new set if you have pen tungrade because they are not that much better but they have to be max out and you get the extra crystal it all about if you have to have them right now or wait a bit. Also you can get to tet with out using any cron stone

I hear ya! It's just being singled out by not having the "right" thing. Anyone with this set has to be held back while others are free to go. I mean there are other accessories out there with the same issue so I'd imagine a lot of people are feeling pretty miffed right now. They should've made it an option to melt them for the mats or the crystal if they wanted to be fair. I'm fine with the Deob exchange because that was a little slice of hell anyway, but making only a small amount of accessories able to be melted isn't right. I've paid a crap ton for gear that of course lost value over time, but at the time everyone was on equal footing to get it once it was released. You just had to put in the same time as everyone else some getting luckier. None of it held you back just for existing & that's my problem. I appreciate what you're saying & for some folks that will be enough to get back into the game if they are on the fence so I'm glad for the input.

But in general, the developers did not care about everyone. People who spent a lot of resources on pen debos got IX kaz, which actually does not give anything, because it is much easier to make IX kaz from base than PEN debo , in my guild people made XIII-IX kaz for 20-60k crones.

People who bought pen tungrad for 60-70 billion quite recently also turned out to be abandoned, because the developers first killed the entire market in 2 months, they saw that the price of tungrad was 20-30 billion and decided that it was normal. People who had pen tungrads deserve pen kaz at least, otherwise what was the point of adding +12 attack to the tungrad set recently?

I don't recommend anyone to spend time for grinding gear in this game, it's pointless and the developers will never appreciate your time, they will rather trash everything and you will waste your time, the best option is just enter, get gifts and exit, there is nothing to do in the game, everything is dead and pointless and sadly but it is true.

I can't really be mad at a game that the grind for gear is basically the point. I love grinding for the new thing but what I have a huge problem with is that I now have to spend 50 hours just because I logged into the game to get something while other people don't. Every time they release something new into the game everybody is on the same starting line as everybody else for the race to get it. I mean come on 50 hours that is a long long time just for no reason whatsoever. There are plenty of other people who don't have the ability to grind out 1B silver an hour so they've got to spend even longer than that just to get back to ground zero where everybody should have started out in the first place.