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Improvements that can be done to RBF
Dec 1, 2024, 08:02 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Dec 4, 2024, 08:51 (UTC)
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Family Name: BoboDaFilthy

Region (NA/EU): EU 

Suggestions/Comments: 
The Castle Ruins RBF brought a lot of players back into RBF which proves that players like the gamemode but dislike the rewards. That is understandable since you take into consideration the buffs needed in RBF and the small rewards.
That being said here are some improvements that can be done so it might attract more players reward wise and gameplay wise:
1. Lets get the elephant out of the room, the rewards are bad. Goint into RBF with church, villa, food, harmony draught and maybe a perfume you might aswell declare bankruptcy. So increasing the RBF rewards to be 500mil-1bil/h (depending on your performance) give or take. Now we have to take into consideration that RBF has the battlefield tokens so instead of using them for red battlefield crystals make them a currency with various loots like perfumes (charm, khalk, courage, deep sea), a cool title, weeapon exchange cupons, etc. 
2. RBF has the advantage of haveing the [battlefield] hp/mp potions and that its really great or was before the infinite potions, since players also spend a lot of silver on draughts I think adding an battlefield exclusive draught that is close or the same as the human harmony draught at a cheaper price compared to the marketplace would be an improving factor on the players budget.
3. Removing the -DP form capturing the point on Valencia RBF. That has been adressed many times in the bdo comunity as an broken tactic. And it is since a 700gs player like me can live in a ball of people when they have the point and a 730gs player gets melted when he has the point. This brings no balance whatsoever and its just an unfair tactic. 
As an ending note I want to say that these improvements are something that I tought of while writing. So feel free to say your toughts about them.
I didn't post them as a "oh no game is dead" doomer talk but more of a start towards a better experience. 
Hope this feedback will help.
P.S. Can someone translate this and put it in the korean forum kek
Last Edit : Dec 1, 2024, 09:04 (UTC)
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Yea the event bring people to map that is basicaly terrible. But remember Choise topic about rewards to RBF. All PA did was to increase silver rewards to 50mln, which is joke. I hope whne they see now the interst they will take action.
Also I believe castle ruins shuould be max 15 vs 15 players.

Last Edit : Dec 2, 2024, 14:32 (UTC)
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The money reward is abismal. You can play 3-4rbfs/hour and get 150-200mil/h. "Awsome" if you compared to the bilions people make in grinding. In a pvp game, pvp should be rewarding.

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Last Edit : Dec 3, 2024, 11:13 (UTC)
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I totally agree with you, 500m for loose and above 1b for win should be a good and normal reward BUT devs ideea here is to make people spend as much time as they can and also money on pearl shop. Don't you see that grind spots got buffed in therms of damage output and more defense+HP? That means where you usually grind at a ~1b spot now you'll get less silver due to buff. Garmoth stats for example are not fake but not achievable by 80% of people, we run in circle to 1b spots if still exist those spots, they hardly try to maintain low income from grind spots, low income from life skill, even lower silver income from PVP but the game focus is PVE. You can't even reach the end game gear upgraded to max which I haven't see this strategy in any games before.

So, that 500m to 1b its not possible even if 90% of people will agree, anything thats in advantage of play will not be agreed, make them very hard to achieve or lucky, let it be for months/years then give it for free and turn comunity into angry players because of that instead of make it possible to get by anyone with not alot of effort. I just sold again the entire life skill gear as not worth the silver and for sailing I just don't need it, mastery stats for speed are garbage when Ocean is bugged anyway.

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Last Edit : Dec 3, 2024, 14:03 (UTC)
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Been doing RBF since 2016, +100k kills.

Anyone that suggest rewards is what needed for RBF knows nothing of rbf and its playerbase.

All these silver suggestions are stupid, it brings afk & not interested players to the mode.

Current RBF event is a disaster, I have recorded clips of afk players there for the event only and will never come back to RBF, they did no changes to make new players interested, +100 players joining a max 60 mode? DR system? no Balance? Spawn camping and getting kicked?

I am not a doomer but one of those on hopium But seeing PA actions and the community suggestions just make me despair that there is no

saving this shit...

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Last Edit : Dec 4, 2024, 08:49 (UTC)
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On: Dec 3, 2024, 14:03 (UTC), Written by Silly

Been doing RBF since 2016, +100k kills.

Anyone that suggest rewards is what needed for RBF knows nothing of rbf and its playerbase.

All these silver suggestions are stupid, it brings afk & not interested players to the mode.

Current RBF event is a disaster, I have recorded clips of afk players there for the event only and will never come back to RBF, they did no changes to make new players interested, +100 players joining a max 60 mode? DR system? no Balance? Spawn camping and getting kicked?

I am not a doomer but one of those on hopium But seeing PA actions and the community suggestions just make me despair that there is no

saving this shit...

Hmm you're right, I forgot about afk ppl when I was writing this. What about performance based rewards?

Last Edit : Dec 4, 2024, 15:04 (UTC)
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On: Dec 3, 2024, 14:03 (UTC), Written by Silly

Been doing RBF since 2016, +100k kills.

Anyone that suggest rewards is what needed for RBF knows nothing of rbf and its playerbase.

All these silver suggestions are stupid, it brings afk & not interested players to the mode.

Current RBF event is a disaster, I have recorded clips of afk players there for the event only and will never come back to RBF, they did no changes to make new players interested, +100 players joining a max 60 mode? DR system? no Balance? Spawn camping and getting kicked?

I am not a doomer but one of those on hopium But seeing PA actions and the community suggestions just make me despair that there is no

saving this shit...

Wait, you forgot that this AFK strategy its PA fault, when you get used to this while AFK fishing-training horses-barter etc etc ofcourse people will join into this event if its more profitable then what they doing.

Solution for this is just simple - 2-5 min AFK = kick from RBF, is that hard? I said 2-5 min because sometimes you need to pee very hard or getting coffe/water or anything else, so its justified.

So why not getting more silver or more rewards into this mode when you can't do anything else for 20m? Ok lets say 10m strategy but still you can't do something that will bring profit while in-game rbf

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Last Edit : Dec 4, 2024, 19:00 (UTC)
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There already is an AFK-kick mechanic in RBF, if you dont move. But it doesnt detect if you actually participate, only movement. That is why performance based rewards (e.g. as suggested by choice in his post like a year ago) are a better option than pure win/loss rewards.

As for participation in general, I may not have 100k kills, only 25k, but the reason that I stopped spending 2-3 hrs per day in RBF quite a while ago is simply because it was neither fun (due to unbalanced classes and DP builds on nodes) nor rewarding (because you spend more on buffs than you get out of it) any more. Giving rewards would at least balance one side of the equation, and allow players to participate in RBF without feeling like it is a complete waste of time. I just dont see the point in doing RBF, when even standing AFK on velia rooftop has a better effort / reward structure compared to playing RBF.

Last Edit : Dec 6, 2024, 03:09 (UTC)
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On: Dec 3, 2024, 14:03 (UTC), Written by Silly

Been doing RBF since 2016, +100k kills.

Anyone that suggest rewards is what needed for RBF knows nothing of rbf and its playerbase.

All these silver suggestions are stupid, it brings afk & not interested players to the mode.

Current RBF event is a disaster, I have recorded clips of afk players there for the event only and will never come back to RBF, they did no changes to make new players interested, +100 players joining a max 60 mode? DR system? no Balance? Spawn camping and getting kicked?

I am not a doomer but one of those on hopium But seeing PA actions and the community suggestions just make me despair that there is no

saving this shit...

This 100%! class balance and the way too much added DR system (that no one asked for) is most of the issue for most people i talk to. They need to revamp castle ruins spawns locations and change the time needed for valencia capture points. I honestly don't like valencia as much cause there's so much random clutter and camera jank cause of the all the thin alleys etc, but the capture points are a nice change up from castle ruins. Garmoth is a useless map and should be replaced with a new one. (or 2 or 3) I just want RBF to be alive again cause i work nights and everything else is at only available at night with seemingly no change in sight.

Guild League, AoS or NW's need to be changed to be que'able at all times imo, i can't see the harm in it. Why is it wrong to pvp not during peak times? All those activities should give "PvP Tokens" to give not silver, but cool cosmetics or weapon skins, class titles/auras etc.

Honestly most of us have lost hope cause all they care about is more classes being added while not fixing old ones or glaring issues like class to class damage mods, perma SA cc meta, shai buffs, and somehow weapons being put away in combat and the falling animation still being in the game for some reason and having it happen from 1 centimeter of falling or the slighest angle.

Last Edit : Dec 6, 2024, 05:37 (UTC)
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On: Dec 3, 2024, 14:03 (UTC), Written by Silly

Been doing RBF since 2016, +100k kills.

Anyone that suggest rewards is what needed for RBF knows nothing of rbf and its playerbase.

All these silver suggestions are stupid, it brings afk & not interested players to the mode.

Current RBF event is a disaster, I have recorded clips of afk players there for the event only and will never come back to RBF, they did no changes to make new players interested, +100 players joining a max 60 mode? DR system? no Balance? Spawn camping and getting kicked?

I am not a doomer but one of those on hopium But seeing PA actions and the community suggestions just make me despair that there is no

saving this shit...

I only have ~80k kills so I am only 4/5 as brain damaged as this guy, but.. the hell?  He doesn't speak for everyone that wants to pvp in BDO.  Yes RBF has other issues that need fixed for the mode to not be fucked but.. that doesn't mean it can't also be rewarding?  What?  If RBF gave half as much money as grinding, that wouldn't force people who aren't interested in pvp to play it.. what unearthly logic is being applied here?

POR QUE NO LOS DOS? WHY NOT BOTH?  They need to fix class balance, RBF issues and make it rewarding.  Frankly, if you're saying otherwise, I am just going to assume that you are a whale swiper and just want to farm gearlets in RBF forever.

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