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Adjust Barter item weight
Feb 7, 2025, 11:30 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Feb 7, 2025, 11:30 (UTC)
# 1

Region (NA/EU): EU

Suggestion(s)/Comment(s): Adjust the weight of different tier barter items to create a more fun experience.

Details:
I have been bartering actively since last summer and when the new year started I told myself I'd start focusing more on higher tier barter items instead of just doing Tier 1 items continuously. I am someone who focuses on life exp and bartering takes a lot of time if you want to do it "right". I was thinking of what could be solutions and I ended up with the following idea that I think could improve bartering and make it more fun.
Tier 1 items --> Stay 100LT
Tier 2 items --> change to 200LT
Tier 3 items --> change to 300LT
Tier 4 items --> change to 400LT
Tier 5 items --> change to 500LT
This way you create new weight "break points" that make the higher tier items still a bit more difficult to collect, but it will feel less bad. For example, you can now do one exchange of 10 T1 items at 3x to 30 T2 items. With my proposed change you can get a total of 4 full exchanges done resulting in 120 Tier 2 items. You can do 3 full exchanges when it comes to Tier 3/4 items and you can do 8 islands with Tier 5 items at once. This also makes it feel much less bad to go to some of the island further from your bartering hub - in my case Iliya island - because you can visit quite a few islands in one run.
I like some of the QoL changes that were added lately and a slight buff to T5 values was definitely needed. If the above change gets added I think bartering could become a more fun lifeskill and allow player to engage with it properly without it feeling like you're wasting too much time.
Any feedback or addition to this idea is very welcome and I look forward to hearing what people think.
Nick / Fesquera
Last Edit : Feb 7, 2025, 14:25 (UTC)
# 2

Lowering weight of barter items would be most welcome QoL change, and that also wouldn't have any negative impact on state of the game.

I would also like to see stackable T5 items, so that we can "hoard" more of them for later material barters. Since that would make people spend less money on storage expansions I doubt this will ever change.

But one can hope on lower weight for those items :)

Last Edit : Feb 7, 2025, 15:59 (UTC)
# 3

It would change the game people that ship made for Bartering over people that brought ship for fighting. It would make it so people brought a ship for fighting would make it even easyer for them to get Bartering done in a shorter time. so why would that be fare for people that made ship just for bartering.

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Amiee
Last Edit : Feb 7, 2025, 16:32 (UTC)
# 4
On: Feb 7, 2025, 15:59 (UTC), Written by Amiee

It would change the game people that ship made for Bartering over people that brought ship for fighting. It would make it so people brought a ship for fighting would make it even easyer for them to get Bartering done in a shorter time. so why would that be fare for people that made ship just for bartering.

They could still do more routes.

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Skkaro
Last Edit : Feb 7, 2025, 17:42 (UTC)
# 5
On: Feb 7, 2025, 15:59 (UTC), Written by Amiee

It would change the game people that ship made for Bartering over people that brought ship for fighting. It would make it so people brought a ship for fighting would make it even easyer for them to get Bartering done in a shorter time. so why would that be fare for people that made ship just for bartering.

I took that into account because I agree with the sentiment. However, as straightforward as those numbers are, the amount of exchanges you can do with - let's say - a valor or volante would still be less than you would be able to do with an advance. The benefit of a higher weight ship still stays. It would admittedly become a smaller benefit in comparison to now, but I think the increase of quality of life for every ship owner goes up by enough that few people would complain about it. At least that's my opinion

Last Edit : Feb 7, 2025, 22:47 (UTC)
# 6

I'd say just lower everything but the T5s, and that solves both issues. Barter boats still come out ahead there, and everyone gets easier times restocking.

Last Edit : Feb 8, 2025, 01:47 (UTC)
# 7
On: Feb 7, 2025, 15:59 (UTC), Written by Amiee

It would change the game people that ship made for Bartering over people that brought ship for fighting. It would make it so people brought a ship for fighting would make it even easyer for them to get Bartering done in a shorter time. so why would that be fare for people that made ship just for bartering.

I made a ship just for bartering and I support this change. 

With the change to 10x barters from Base to T4, You really can't go a full route of barters without going back to port.  It would be nice to be able to do several islands before having to go back to your storage.

Last Edit : Feb 8, 2025, 06:11 (UTC)
# 8

+1 since the change adding 10x trades to most barters every exchange is pretty much hub--->barter spot---->hub rinse and repeat. I miss planning routes based on distance/what I need/what i can fit and lowering weights would bring that aspect of the lifeskill back

Last Edit : Feb 9, 2025, 14:47 (UTC)
# 9

Yes please, either half the weight of barters or double the weight of boats.

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