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Dr stacking requires heavy nerfs
Apr 11, 2025, 07:34 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Apr 11, 2025, 07:35 (UTC)
# 1

Fix your dogs*** a** meta... How come a full dp gear succession zerker becomes most oppressive and strongest small scale class in the game? What is this overlook... How come there is still no action about it.


8 glass cannon can't kill 1 tank... As your playerbase we asked you to reduce Shai influence instead you went haywire and increased the Shai influence... The misty haze only way to do "some" damage to a dp stacker.


You can not allow dp stacking to be this effective in the game because then this happens : a 1000+ dr succession zerker / awakening mystic / awakening striker or any class really runs around and create infinite pressure with no way of killing them. You cc them? No problem they are unkillable... You misty them? No problem they whale... You catch them again after they whale? No worries he presses V... Like how can you look at the game play and be like hmm... That's fine.

Just remove dr brackets
Or lock crystal slots in a way that doesn't allow you to put more than 2 of the same
Or make each crystal lose 25% value if they are the same type... Idk bro you are the dev figure it out.

One more thing if a guild puts thousands of points gap to others in g league they shouldn't be able find game like why is rank 1 matches with rank 7?or in extreme cases rank 25? That should only happen if there is literally only 2 guilds are in queue. If not, with a gap like that they shouldn't find a game and get an easy stomp. What's the point of having brackets if they aren't designed to protected lower elo guilds from higher elo ones?

Stop buffing awake sage start buffing awake drake ffs.

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CCaJJ
Last Edit : Apr 11, 2025, 08:30 (UTC)
# 2

Tbh i mostly support this, but i do see a bit of a differnece in some aspects:

If someone commits to be a tank, thats fair but he needs to chose which one.
While on some classes like succ zerker a full dr stack is super strong, on other classes it just means they are a useless npc.

Instead of hard removing tanks/carptes, it would be much more logical to force them to focus, what i mean with that is to change the existing crystals as followed:

JIN Dawn Crystal Evasion (Existing):
Displayed AP -25
Displayed DP (Evasion) +25
All Evasion +23
Max HP +150

JIN Dawn Crystal Evasion (As it should be):
Displayed AP -25
Displayed DP (Evasion) +25
All Evasion +23
All DR -15

Max Hp+150
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

JIN Dawn Crystal Damage Reduction (Existing):
Displayed AP -25
Displayed DP (Damage Reduction) +25
All Damage Reduction +23

Max HP +150

JIN Dawn Crystal Damage Reduction (As it should be):
Displayed AP -25
Displayed DP (Damage Reduction) +25
All Damage Reduction +23
All Evasion -15

Max HP +150

Also it should be the same for the offensive Crystals.
increase AP gain for JIN All AP to like +10 and like -20 Accuracy.

The way they did it with the "new" gems is a nice idea to make it rock scissor paper model, but poorly implemented.
Whiel Dr stackers can become too tanky, Mystic and Strikers win by default, because they have enough Evasion and DR.
Therefore cant be killed even with misty haze and therefore become overall unkillable, because if you have enough Accuracy to kill them they still have too much DR which you cant kill.


Id say this suggestion would provide the easiest and most versatile solution.

Last Edit : Apr 11, 2025, 08:34 (UTC)
# 3
On: Apr 11, 2025, 07:34 (UTC), Written by CCaJJ

Stop buffing awake sage start buffing awake drake ffs.

Lol, why so little font?

But yeah +1, everyone is fed up with tank meta. And about guild league, my guild was rank  60+ and we got rank 1 guild, we had around 400 points and rank 1 had  900+ points, it was the first week. It would be better we didn't find this game, there is no chance for us anyway. But the most annoying thing is waiting 30 minutes. We asked devs  to remove 30min cd and let us  play GL during  WoR and NW, but they just ignored us and this is 3rd season and they keep ignoring.

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NeverSayDie
Last Edit : Apr 11, 2025, 08:54 (UTC)
# 4

hahaha, I don't know how they managed to mess up Zerker even more he's everywhere now.

I'm with you: Zerker, Striker, Mystic, and even some DPS builds running those crystals it's funny how they were practically unkillable before.

As per usual, Shai will end up paying the price. Nothing new on their horizon. They'll put a limit on the crystals (as they should), and the only class that will be affected by it is the one class that cannot live without them.

You complain about their influence, but many Shai still go to Guild Leagues by petition of their guilds, while getting crap from the community at the same time. It's masochistic at this point they're just waiting to get thrown into the garbage bin once they're no longer needed. I said it in other posts this game doesn't deserve anyone who genuinely mains a Shai.

And in regard to Sage he's pretty broken. I'm starting to see them everywhere. But don't worry, you'll see soon enough how your class gets bastardized by the metaplayers as they always do and the curse that is playing an op class ... all of the problems, none of the glory. You can ask the genuine Zerker mains the ones I know barely play the game anymore.

Last Edit : Apr 11, 2025, 08:53 (UTC)
# 5
On: Apr 11, 2025, 08:30 (UTC), Written by PascalP


Instead of hard removing tanks/carptes, it would be much more logical to force them to focus, what i mean with that is to change the existing crystals as followed:

JIN Dawn Crystal Evasion (Existing):
Displayed AP -25
Displayed DP (Evasion) +25
All Evasion +23
Max HP +150

JIN Dawn Crystal Evasion (As it should be):
Displayed AP -25
Displayed DP (Evasion) +25
All Evasion +23
All DR -15

Max Hp+150
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

JIN Dawn Crystal Damage Reduction (Existing):
Displayed AP -25
Displayed DP (Damage Reduction) +25
All Damage Reduction +23

Max HP +150

JIN Dawn Crystal Damage Reduction (As it should be):
Displayed AP -25
Displayed DP (Damage Reduction) +25
All Damage Reduction +23
All Evasion -15

Max HP +150




I don't know if i understood correctly but if they change the crystal as you said Zerkers will laugh it off since this crystals you propose will mean no change for the dr builds they use the only ones that will be affected will be the ones that want to go hybrid dr - eva.

It looks like a half baked solution.

Last Edit : Apr 11, 2025, 09:32 (UTC)
# 6
On: Apr 11, 2025, 08:53 (UTC), Written by Vanderin

I don't know if i understood correctly but if they change the crystal as you said Zerkers will laugh it off since this crystals you propose will mean no change for the dr builds they use the only ones that will be affected will be the ones that want to go hybrid dr - eva.

It looks like a half baked solution.

Thats why i suggested aswell an Ap gem buff, to coutner it ofc the numbers are just placeholders and DR stacking on some classes will always be more efficient than on others, but thats a general issue of class balance.
As former warrior main, even with DR stacking i gave up on the class, because what does it bring to the table even full DR... nothing.
On Zerker and Valk you bring huge utility to the gameplay.

Takle the big issues first, ofc stacking infinitely much Defense makes someone not fun, but thats why numbers need to be adjusted so they can be killed.

BDO combat has the fundamental flaw, that it is not sensitively balanced, like HP regen is way too OP, going from 0->100 defeats any purpose of "grinding" someone down. So the game needs to be balanced like tiher you kill soeone in 1 combo or you give up. Everythign else makes no sense, but if you have DP stats as they are rn, people are just unkillable, because of too much dr AND eva, not because they commit to one.
Yes DR is too strong as it is and needs a nerf, but as PA always does it they make it too much or too little.

Tbh 0 hope theyd ever balance somethign properly. So we just jump from one sheeet show to another.

Last Edit : Apr 11, 2025, 10:16 (UTC)
# 7

The problem is class balance not DR as a stat being to strong.

Although 1 thing i would like to see is evasion and DR armors giving the same stats for PVE specifically. 

DR shouldn't be the end all be all for PVE like it is your armor type should be built based on your class type and the benefit of that armor should work whether it's in pve or pvp.

Last Edit : Apr 11, 2025, 11:59 (UTC)
# 8
On: Apr 11, 2025, 07:34 (UTC), Written by CCaJJ

Fix your dogs*** a** meta... How come a full dp gear succession zerker becomes most oppressive and strongest small scale class in the game? What is this overlook... How come there is still no action about it.


8 glass cannon can't kill 1 tank... As your playerbase we asked you to reduce Shai influence instead you went haywire and increased the Shai influence... The misty haze only way to do "some" damage to a dp stacker.


You can not allow dp stacking to be this effective in the game because then this happens : a 1000+ dr succession zerker / awakening mystic / awakening striker or any class really runs around and create infinite pressure with no way of killing them. You cc them? No problem they are unkillable... You misty them? No problem they whale... You catch them again after they whale? No worries he presses V... Like how can you look at the game play and be like hmm... That's fine.

Just remove dr brackets
Or lock crystal slots in a way that doesn't allow you to put more than 2 of the same
Or make each crystal lose 25% value if they are the same type... Idk bro you are the dev figure it out.

One more thing if a guild puts thousands of points gap to others in g league they shouldn't be able find game like why is rank 1 matches with rank 7?or in extreme cases rank 25? That should only happen if there is literally only 2 guilds are in queue. If not, with a gap like that they shouldn't find a game and get an easy stomp. What's the point of having brackets if they aren't designed to protected lower elo guilds from higher elo ones?

Stop buffing awake sage start buffing awake drake ffs.

If you are losing to a zerker, striker, mystic with 1000 DR as you say, then you must be terrible at the game because those classes are literally doing 0 damage at that point. Thats like a 300-400 stat page AP. A tuvala timmy has more AP.

Not sure how it works in EU, but in NA, Evasion is ALIVE AND WELL. 

Last Edit : Apr 11, 2025, 12:45 (UTC)
# 9
On: Apr 11, 2025, 11:59 (UTC), Written by GodSlinger

If you are losing to a zerker, striker, mystic with 1000 DR as you say, then you must be terrible at the game because those classes are literally doing 0 damage at that point. Thats like a 300-400 stat page AP. A tuvala timmy has more AP.

Not sure how it works in EU, but in NA, Evasion is ALIVE AND WELL. 

I think you didn't read properly you missed what I said and then you proceed to make comment without truly grasp whats the purpose of the post was but sure... Pretty sure I have over 1k elo in solare over you but hey what do I know... 

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CCaJJ
Last Edit : Apr 11, 2025, 17:35 (UTC)
# 10

sheesh my goat flexing

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