For any kind of party content, be it Black Shrine or Atoraxxion, if you dont know several reliable people to do them its just dead content and missed rewards.
Nothing feels worse than actually wanting to play the game and just being denied. What do you want from us then, PA?
You could start by making proper matchmaking systems for all kind of social content (even Yar!) that includes all difficulties of the content.
Another option would be adding solo alternatives that provide almost the same or the same rewards.
To play the game properly, people already need to invest lots of time and effort (and money) in it, so please consider making the game accessible to people who also dont have the time or means for the hassle of forming a party.
It's certainly not dead content. I can find groups on the party finder just fine... most of them randoms and most of them decent at doing shrines... I can complete shrines weekly with randoms within 20-45 minutes. I get mine done every week and often an hour before the reset. I'm sure you could as well - just check the party finder every so often and when you see "Norm Boss - Bulg/Jig/Utu" or something similar to your liking, join up. You don't have to share any info with them except a kindly "Hello" and that you're ready to go with an "r". No one is denying you this except for yourself.
It's certainly not dead content. I can find groups on the party finder just fine... most of them randoms and most of them decent at doing shrines... I can complete shrines weekly with randoms within 20-45 minutes. I get mine done every week and often an hour before the reset. I'm sure you could as well - just check the party finder every so often and when you see "Norm Boss - Bulg/Jig/Utu" or something similar to your liking, join up. You don't have to share any info with them except a kindly "Hello" and that you're ready to go with an "r". No one is denying you this except for yourself.
I already do that. All im asking for is a proper matchmaker like any basic games has.
One that isnt also limited like Atoraxxion only including normal mode.
Itd be way more comfortable and less time consuming like this.
Black Shrine might not be the most difficult content to find a party in LFG but Elvia Atoraxxion is harder.
Not long ago I posted about the same exact topic and the response wasnt so negative. Idk whats the need to gatekeep content behind fixed groups.
I would say Atoraxxion is more difficult because it involves puzzles - if I remember correctly (it's been a while)... not just puzzles, but puzzles that require coordination (often voice chat) among the entire group. That's one of the reasons you don't see many shrine groups forming for Blue Clad Youth.
Imo, it's not that it's hard to find people to do it, it's that not many want to do it, or are scared to do it. I did it once - it was made clear to the rest of the group by the leader that it was my first time - and every time I messed up, some other person in the group kept being an asshole about it. I'm not doing it again cause I can earn silver and rewards in other ways that doesn't also involve harsh criticism from others.
I would agree that better matchmatching could be available for certain parts of the game.
I would say Atoraxxion is more difficult because it involves puzzles - if I remember correctly (it's been a while)... not just puzzles, but puzzles that require coordination (often voice chat) among the entire group. That's one of the reasons you don't see many shrine groups forming for Blue Clad Youth.
Imo, it's not that it's hard to find people to do it, it's that not many want to do it, or are scared to do it. I did it once - it was made clear to the rest of the group by the leader that it was my first time - and every time I messed up, some other person in the group kept being an asshole about it. I'm not doing it again cause I can earn silver and rewards in other ways that doesn't also involve harsh criticism from others.
I would agree that better matchmatching could be available for certain parts of the game.
So yeah we basically agree on the same thing then ^^
Thats why I keep insisting on this topic. It wouldnt be a huge effort from PA to add a matchmaker for all content and include in-game guides just like WoW does.
Regarding the toxic people, we cant do much about it other than maybe use the in-game report function, but theyre part of the reason party content in this game is difficult.
Players cant learn and practise if others dont allow them to and give them a chance.
Im not trying to suggest that fixed teams should not exist but this game needs a bit of a "mix and shake" so that everyone gets a chance.
Thats all I want to say honestly cause im so tired of looking for groups in discord and everywhere I can think of but its pointless.
In the same UI as the party finder, they could add categories to sort through. Olun's is popular enough to be a category, HM Shrine, Normal Shrine (very often, I've joined a group that the leader didn't specify HM or Norm... then had to leave cause my ap is 318? i think), Atoraxxion, Sailies, Yar, etc.
Anyone telling you that you're bad with that gear has honestly got their head up their butt.
As someone who never did this (only 79 days of playing) it seems that the quests i received in game for Atoraxxia, are more for end game than new player right ?
My stats are way below the one posted here (304/309/354) so i guess i rather just avoid them before even thinking to join a group ?
Also, can i considere this as end game difficulty and thus, as a gran'ma with shaking hands, just not bother at all ?
As someone who never did this (only 79 days of playing) it seems that the quests i received in game for Atoraxxia, are more for end game than new player right ?
My stats are way below the one posted here (304/309/354) so i guess i rather just avoid them before even thinking to join a group ?
Also, can i considere this as end game difficulty and thus, as a gran'ma with shaking hands, just not bother at all ?
When I did it (that one time), it was probably where you're at ap/dp... I didn't struggle with fighting mobs. It didn't seem like end game with that - more like mid-game. It was the puzzles that I sucked at... mostly because I didn't have a mic and was only listening to cues from the leader on what to do (while the one of the other players was complaining and sighing at how bad I was). With the rewards I go at the end versus the stress and time it took to complete, I decided to not do it again. This was normal Atoraxxion, btw.
For any kind of party content, be it Black Shrine or Atoraxxion, if you dont know several reliable people to do them its just dead content and missed rewards.
Nothing feels worse than actually wanting to play the game and just being denied. What do you want from us then, PA?
You could start by making proper matchmaking systems for all kind of social content (even Yar!) that includes all difficulties of the content.
Another option would be adding solo alternatives that provide almost the same or the same rewards.
To play the game properly, people already need to invest lots of time and effort (and money) in it, so please consider making the game accessible to people who also dont have the time or means for the hassle of forming a party.
It would be nice if they content was queueable like the dungeons sure but even the dungeons are queueable and no one queues because there's not enough people looking to do them because there's no chase rewards . It's a weekly 3 bills silver. Oooo ahhhh no one cares.
Just use the party finder if you can't find a guild to run them with.
Tbh your not missing out on much all the boss content is inconsistent and buggy. It's a big improvement and they are getting better at making them but the rewards are lacking pretty badly.