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#Suggestions
Shai Desperately Needs Buffs!
May 20, 2021, 04:22 (UTC)
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Last Edit : May 29, 2021, 19:32 (UTC)
# 1

Edit: Massively Simplified/Refined
REQUIRED
changes for Shai to be FUNCTIONAL in current content.

By Phelsong

Currently, Shai is struggling to keep up in current “endgame” PvE content.
With the introduction of Elvia and the increased jump of monster defense stats, Shai is not able to keep up. We are upwards of 30% behind the average.

Our skills physically miss monsters due to their movement and the small hitboxes on Florang skills
We lack raw AP available to other classes via Dandelion +Damage/Blackstar +Monster AP/T3 Addons, causing us to not be even capable of effectively grinding the same spots at the same Sheet AP.
We are incapable of realistically grinding without Misty Haze ( 구름막 ) available for every group of monsters, the 30 second cooldown is too restrictive.
Shai just requires more effort for less reward.

This has led to the Shai population dwindling with every passing day…..
We want to be an AMAZING support class
We want MORE options to support our groups
We want to be decent in Solo PvE
We want to be desirable for Group PvE
We want to be (barely) adequate for Solo PvP

We would like the Class we were promised on release. 

We love the Buff/Debuff management playstyle, but we spend too much time on it currently.

We need more of a time buffer on the maintenance of those Talent skills.

 

Addons as a Shai are an ongoing issue. We spend so much time buffing/debuffing or other actions that do not involve hitting things, that we cannot maintain meaningful uptime on addons where we need them. We think they should be removed and their effects added into our base kit.

Core Skills... While I understand Core Skills do not make sense for the Shai Talent kit, we should have gotten SOMETHING instead.

Shai is more vulnerable to damage and crowd control effects than most other classes.
We would like more tools and built-in defense to deal with this.

Shai currently has no option to provide DP to allies.
We would like that as well.

Our Florang Aoe sizes are a probelm. It would be nice to have some more GOOD damage options in Talent for large packs and group content where we are mostly using Talent anyways.


A large portion of the Shai community as well as Myself have weighed in on a list of things we think would accomplish those things in the current PvE “endgame”.

[Pen] Artina Sol (scaled down at previous ranks)
+25 AP versus Monsters

Pre Awakening:

Before

After

Come Out, Come Out

KR name: 찾았다!

Come Out, Come Out

KR name: 찾았다!

Hotkey: Q

Cooldown: 2 minutes

Duration: 10 seconds

All DP +10 for 10 seconds

Hotkey: W+Q
Can be Used with Sol
Cooldown: 20 seconds
Duration: 8 seconds

All DP +15 for 30 seconds

 

[Additional +30% increased Movement Speed while using the Skill]

Tuck-and-Roll

KR name: 데구르르

Tuck-and-Roll

KR name: 데구르르

Attack Speed +20% for 10 sec. upon using skill

Attack Speed +20% for 20 seconds upon using skill

 

Kwik-Two V

KR name: 빠르게 둘 V

Kwik-Two V

KR name: 빠르게 둘 V

Accuracy Rate +7%

Accuracy Rate +12%
Critical Hit Rate +30%

Twirl-Three IV
KR name: 핑그르르 셋 IV

Twirl-Three IV
KR name: 핑그르르 셋 IV

Spinning Area Damage 684% x 8
Hit Damage 684% x 1, Max 40 Hits

Critical Rate +100% on Spinning Area Damage
Spinning Area Damage 984% x 8
Critical Hit Rate +30%

Hit Damage 744% x 1, Max 40 Hits


Fixes:
Super Armor Effect extended throughout the duration of the skill

Hop-Three III
KR name: 폴짝 셋 III

Hop-Three III
KR name: 폴짝 셋 III

Accuracy Rate +7%

Accuracy Rate +11%
Critical Hit Rate +30%

Sprinkle-Sparkle IV

KR name: 샤라랑 IV

Sprinkle-Sparkle IV

KR name: 샤라랑 IV

Maximum 1 targets

WP/SP/MP +20% when hitting allies

WP/SP/MP -10% when hitting enemies

Maximium 3 Allies effected
Critical Hit Rate +10% for 15 seconds for Self and Allies
Removes all slows, bleeding, poison, burning, and pain effects from Self and Allies

Super Armor
Generates 3 Florin Leaves on Use

Generates 1 additional Florin Leaf on successful hit.

 

Talent:
Animation for pulling out instruments sped up significantly.

Before

After

Tuning

KR name: 조율

Master Performer

KR name: 마스터 연기자

Effect applied to max 10 allies
HP Recovery +150 per 3 sec. while performing Tuning to self and friends.
MP/SP/WP Recovery +5% per 3 sec. while performing Tuning to self and friends.
The recovery effect will stop when moving during Tuning.

Addon REMOVAL
[Passive]

Attack Speed +15%

Movement Speed +10%

All AP +20

All DP +20

All Evasion +20
All Accuracy +20
HP recovered +5 on Attack

We're Gonna Win!
KR name: 우리가 이긴다!

We're Gonna Win!
KR name: 우리가 이긴다!

Play a variation of existing songs for 5 minutes.

 

The following effects will apply for 5 minutes when you use the following skills:

 

Play a variation of existing songs for [Continuous toggle]

 


Bugs Fixes/Adjustments
Tute Aim Assistance now targets allies
Tute/Tring variation area of effect increased 25%

Continuous Playing Not a Available while Using “We’re Gonna Win”

Frontal Guard and Super Armor no longer removed on Tute/Tring

Before

After

Elvia: Rascal

KR name: 엘비아 : 악동

Elvia: Rascal

KR name: 엘비아 : 악동

Quick Slot Available

Quick Slot Available

Can be used with florang through Quick Slot

Tring:

Before

After

Misty Haze III

KR name: 구름막 III

Misty Haze III

KR name: 구름막 III

Cooldown: 30 Seconds

Cooldown: 15 Seconds

Continuous Damage Over Time 1116x1, Max Hits 20 for 20 seconds
All Debuff Resistance -10% for 20 seconds
Frontal Guard before playing begins

Delusive Light III

KR name: 비밀의 늪 III

Delusive Light III

KR name: 비밀의 늪 III

Cooldown: 30 Seconds

Cooldown: 15 seconds
Frontal Guard before playing begins

Tute:

Before

After

Sun, Moon, Stars III

KR name: 해와 달과 별

Sun, Moon, Stars III

KR name: 해와 달과 별

Skills you cannot learn after learning this skill:

[Summer Rain III], [Shout to the Sky III], [Time to Shine! III]

 

Attack Speed +10% for 30 sec. to self and friends

Casting Speed +10% for 30 sec. to self and friends

Movement Speed +10% for 30 sec. to self and friends

Skills you cannot learn after learning this skill:

[Summer Rain III], [Sun, Moon, Stars III], [Time to Shine! III]


Attack Speed +10% for 60sec. to self and friends

Casting Speed +10% for 60sec. to self and friends

Movement Speed +10% for 60sec. to self and friends
Frontal Guard before playing begins
Super Armor while playing the instrument

Time to Shine! III

KR name: 우리가 주인공! III

Time to Shine! III

KR name: 우리가 주인공! III

Skills you cannot learn after learning this skill:

[Summer Rain III], [Sun, Moon, Stars III], [Shout to the Sky III]

 

Black Spirit's Rage Recovery +4.5% every 10 sec. to self and friends [for 20 seconds]

Skills you cannot learn after learning this skill:

[Summer Rain III], [Sun, Moon, Stars III], [Time to Shine! III]



All AP +15 for 40sec. to self and friends
All Accuracy Rate +6% for 40sec. to self and friends

Black Spirit's Rage Recovery +4% every 10 seconds to self and friends for 40 sec.
Frontal Guard before playing begins
Super Armor while playing the instrument

Summer Rain III

KR name: 여름비 III

Summer Rain III

KR name: 여름비 III

Skills you cannot learn after learning this skill:

[Sun, Moon, Stars III], [Shout to the Sky III], [Time to Shine! III]
 

All Debuff Resistance +40% for 20sec. to self and friends

Skills you cannot learn after learning this skill:

[Summer Rain III], [Sun, Moon, Stars III], [Time to Shine! III]


HP Recovered +3 on attack for 40sec. to self and friends

Damage Reduction Rate +8% for 40sec. to self and friends
All Debuff Resistance +30% for 40sec. to self and friends
Frontal Guard before playing begins
Super Armor while playing the instrument

Shout to the Sky III

KR name: 하늘 높이 소리쳐 III

Shout to the Sky III

KR name: 하늘 높이 소리쳐 III

Skills you cannot learn after learning this skill:

[Summer Rain III], [Sun, Moon, Stars III], [Time to Shine! III]

 

Max HP +1500 for 30sec. to self and friends

HP Recovery +500 to self and friends
HP Recovered by +150 every 2 seconds for 10 seconds

Skills you cannot learn after learning this skill:

[Summer Rain III], [Sun, Moon, Stars III], [Time to Shine! III]


Max HP +20% for 40sec. to self and friends

HP Recovered by +10% to self and friends
HP Recovered by +150 every 2 seconds for 10 seconds
Frontal Guard before playing begins
Super Armor while playing the instrument

Do it Better!

KR name: 강하게 더 세게!

Do it Better!

KR name: 강하게 더 세게!

E
Cooldown: 3 minutes


Effect applied to max 10 allies

All AP +30 for 30sec. to self and friends

All Special Attacks +5% damage for 30sec. to self and friends

Super Armor while playing the instrument

Shift+E
Cooldown: 3 minutes


Effect applied to max 10 allies
All AP +30 for 30sec. to self and friends
All DP +30 for 60sec. to self and friends

All Special Attacks +10% damage for 60sec. to self and friends
Frontal Guard before playing begins
Super Armor while playing the instrument

 

[Playing animation shortened by 50%]

 

 

TamTam:

Before

After

Sun's Fury

KR name: 태양의 분노

Sun's Fury

KR name: 태양의 분노

Hit Damage 1093% x 7 while playing the instrument

 Attack Speed –20% for 10 seconds on hit

Casting Speed –20% for 10 seconds on hit

Movement Speed –20% for 10 seconds on hit

Critical Hit Rate +30%

Hit Damage 1393% x 7 while playing the instrument
Attack Speed -30% for 10 seconds on hit

Casting Speed -30% for 10 seconds on hit
Movement Speed -30% for 10 seconds on hit


[Range increased 15%]

[Playing animation speed increased 25%]

Earth's Tremble

KR name: 땅의 메아리

Earth's Tremble

KR name: 땅의 메아리

Cooldown: 15 seconds

Forward Hit Damage 1003% x 7 while playing the instrument
Stun on Hit

Cooldown: 10 seconds

Critical Hit Rate +30%
Forward Hit Damage 1203% x 7 while playing the instrument

Stun on Forward Hit

Creates Zone at Hit location for 10 seconds
Critical Hit Rate +100%

Zone Damage 1203x2, Max Hits 10

Forest's Echo

KR name: 숲의 파동

Forest's Echo

KR name: 숲의 파동

Required Stamina: 100
Area Damage 1093% x 16 while playing the instrument

Required Stamina: 200

Critical Hit Rate +30%

Area Damage 1293%x1, Max Hits 16 while playing the instrument
Counter Attack

[damage reduced during continuous play]

 

 

Long Term Changes to Make Shai a more COMPLETE class
Shai is an amazing class. I and many others have been playing since the day Shai released on the Global Lab.. But Shai has never felt like a finished or complete class.
The Shai Community and I have put together a list of changes/ideas to help Shai finally feel finished.

 

Our PvP Modifiers put us at an extra disadvantage versus a few classes. These need to be normalized with the rest of our modifiers. While maintaining the lower than average damage, overall.

 

As Shai main, not being able to tag my PEN sol to another class, while the item holds the same value as a PEN Dandelion is unacceptable.

Our over-reliance on Quick Slots makes Shai hard to manage and makes us feel slow and clunky. Adding Succession style key inputs to Talent would help us to be better/more active supports and reduce those problems.

Our Heals and Support options feel lackluster in comparison to Witch/Wizard/Valk.
We would like more.

Our roleplaying and life-skill related passives, while "cute", do not provide any meaningful bonus.
We would like passives that reward people for playing Shai and also boost her support capabilities.

Our Artina Sol is currently incapable of getting to the Sheet AP levels of a Dandelion at Caphras level 20 or Pen Blackstar Awakening Weapon.

This NEEDS to be fixed.


PvP Modifiers Normalized:

Reciever

Damage Taken Before

Damage Taken After

Striker

29.22

54.39

Mystic

29.22

54.39

Ninja

21.29

62.5

Lahn

43.02

62.5

Warrior

46.27

56.01

Sorceress

52.76

62.5

Guardian

46.27

56.01

Hash

???

62.5

Ranger

46.27

54.39

Tamer

44.65

54.39

Berserker

49.52

54.39

Nova

???

56.01

Sage

???

62.5

Shai

44.65

54.39

 

Artina Sol tied to the same {hidden} MP value of a Dandelion weapon for Marni's Unstable Device.

[May copy 'from' a Sol to a Dandelion weapon, but not 'to' a Sol from a Dandelion weapon]

 

Pre Awakening:

Before

After

 Hop III

KR name: 폴짝 III

Surfs Up!

KR name: 

Cooldown: 3 seconds

Hop Reworked to be evasion/Florang Surf from Black Desert Mobile

Cooldown: 3 seconds
Invincible at the start of movement

Super Armor while Riding

 

[Maintains same Iframe duration as Hop
Overall Movement distance shorter than BD Mobile and only moderately further than current Hop]

Over Here!

KR name: 이리 와 숨어!

Over Here!

KR name: 이리 와 숨어!

Cooldown: 5 minutes

Blocks attacks from outside the protective area for 5 sec

Super Armor while using skill

Attack Speed -50% for enemies within range for 2 sec

Casting Speed -50% for enemies within range for 2 sec

Movement Speed -50% for enemies within range for 2 sec

Cooldown: 90 seconds

Blocks attacks from outside the protective area for 5 sec

Super Armor while using skill

Attack Speed -50% for enemies within range for 1 sec

Casting Speed -50% for enemies within range for 1 sec

Movement Speed -50% for enemies within range for 1 sec

+60% Damage Reduction Rate while using skill
+30% Grapple Resistance while using skill

 

No longer blocks character movement
Area increased 20%

Get Well

KR name: 아프지마

Get Well

KR name: 아프지마

Cooldown: 90 seconds
HP recovered by +700 per 1 tick(s) over 3 ticks(s), for self and allies.

Cooldown: 60 seconds
HP recovered by +15% per 1 tick(s) over 3 ticks(s), for self and allies.
Super Armor 

Cheer Up!

KR name: 힘내!

Cheer Up!

KR name: 힘내!

HP recovered by +200 every 5 sec for 60 sec. Applied to self and allies

Effect applied to max 10 allies

HP recovered by +10% for self and allies

HP recovered by +250 every 5 sec for 90 sec. Applied to self and allies

Effect applied to max 10 allies

BSR 100%
흑정령 100%

BSR 100%
흑정령 100%

Black Spirit: One-Two-Three V

KR name: 흑정령 : 하나 둘 셋 V

 

Hit Damage 1085% x 49

Accuracy Rate +11%

Maximum 10 targets

Super Armor while using skill

Stun on hits

Injures target with 50% of the damage of a hit.

Knock target off the mount on a hit.

Damage greatly reduced in PvP.

Cheer Up!

KR name: 흑정령 :힘내!
 

HP recovered by +50% for self and allies
HP recovered by +250 every 5 sec for 90 sec. Applied to self and allies

HP recovered by +500 every 5 sec for 20 sec. Applied to self and allies

Effect applied to max 10 allies

Super Armor while using skill

Play Dead
KR name: 꾀꼬닥

Play Dead
KR name: 꾀꼬닥

Cooldown: 5 minutes
+15 HP recovery

Cooldown: 60 seconds

HP recovered +50 every 1 second while playing dead.

 

Fixes:
[Invincible versus Monsters while playing dead after “Invincible for 2 seconds” has ended]

Go Away III

KR name: 저리 가 III

Go Away III

KR name: 저리 가 III

Hotkey: Hold F

Hit Damage 659x3
Float on Hit

Hotkey: S+F

Hit Damage 1069x3
Bound On Hit

No longer useable while on CD

Gathering Whiz V

KR name: 채집의 달인 V

Gathering Whiz V

KR name: 채집의 달인 V

Gathering EXP +1%

Gathering EXP +1%
Shai has a 10% chance to loot 1 random alchemy trace from monsters.

[Total]

Alchemy Whiz V

KR name: 연금의 달인 V

Alchemy Whiz V

KR name: 연금의 달인 V

Alchemy EXP +1%

 

Alchemy EXP +1%

Shai gains 5 minutes of increased elixir duration on use for Self and Allies.

(excludes strong elixirs and perfumes)

[Total]

 

 

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Last Edit : May 29, 2021, 19:35 (UTC)
# 2

Talent:

All Songs Can be Cast {from Florang} by holding the Swap Key [C] - The ability to Quick Slot and play should remain.

Can play all songs while moving and without stopping, but restricts movement speed to walking during the animation.

[what I imagine is where can be running/moving and hit the "cap locks" walking toggle, no full stop required]

Before

After

Talent: Melody of Light

KR name: 재능 : 빛의 선율

Talent: Melody of Light

KR name: 재능 : 빛의 선율

Hotkey: C


Hotkey: C
Hold C from Sol to switch back to Florang


Hold C to play songs from Florang

 

Tring:

Before

After

Misty Haze III

KR name: 구름막 III

Misty Haze III

KR name: 구름막 III

Hotkey: Q

Hotkey: Q
C+Q when played from floran

Delusive Light III

KR name: 비밀의 늪 III

Delusive Light III

KR name: 비밀의 늪 III

Hotkey: Shift+Q
 

Hotkey: Shift+Q
C+Shift+Q when played from floran

  • Tute:

    Before

    After

    Sun, Moon, Stars III

    KR name: 해와 달과 별

    Sun, Moon, Stars III

    KR name: 해와 달과 별

    Hotkey: F

    Hotkey: F
    C+F when played from florang

    Time to Shine! III

    KR name: 우리가 주인공! III

    Time to Shine! III

    KR name: 우리가 주인공! III

    Hotkey: RMB

     

    Hotkey: RMB
    C+RMB when played from florang

    Summer Rain III

    KR name: 여름비 III

    Summer Rain III

    KR name: 여름비 III

    Hotkey: S+RMB

     

    Hotkey: S+RMB
    C+S+RMB when played from florang

    Shout to the Sky III

    KR name: 하늘 높이 소리쳐 III

    Shout to the Sky III

    KR name: 하늘 높이 소리쳐 III

    Hotkey: S+F

    Hotkey: S+F
    C+S+F when played from florang

     

    Tam Tam:

    Before

    After

    Sun's Fury

    KR name: 태양의 분노

    Sun's Fury

    KR name: 태양의 분노

    Hotkey: Shift+RMB

    Hotkey: Shift+RMB
    C+Shift+RMB when played from florang

    Earth's Tremble

    KR name: 땅의 메아리

    Earth's Tremble

    KR name: 땅의 메아리

    Hotkey: Shift+LMB

    Hotkey: Shift+LMB
    C+Shift+LMB when played from florang

    Forest's Echo

    KR name: 숲의 파동

    Forest's Echo

    KR name: 숲의 파동

    Hotkey: Shift+F

    Hotkey: Shift+F
    C+Shift+F when played from florang

     

     

    • NEW!
      Tara: (Black Star Upgrade:)

      Most Shai were disappointed and upset by fact that we were not included in receiving a Blackstar awakening weapon... While I also am, I also would not like to make an additional Pen+ weapon with no way to recoup costs.

      My Solution:

      Instead of crafting a NEW item: Shai upgrades her Sol via a lengthy/costly questline

      [requires Pen: Artina Sol]

       

      Florechestra Sol

      131-142 AP
      +35 AP versus Monsters
      [Tags to Pen Blackstar]

      Shai gains access to the Tara. (Lyre) Tara replaces the Tute (flute) and offers additional Song effect increases


      Sun, Moon, and Stars 해와 달과 별:

      Enhanced | All Speed increase +2%
      Summer Rain 여름비:

      Enhanced | Damage Reduction Rate increase +2%
      Shout to the Sky 하늘 높이 소리쳐:
      Enhanced | Max HP increase +2%
      Time to Shine 우리가 주인공!:

      Enhanced | All Accuracy Rate increase +2%

       Rabams:

      Before

      After

      Sharing is Caring

      KR name: 빛을 나눠줄게

      Sharing is Caring

      KR name: 빛을 나눠줄게

      Recovers allies' HP by 350 every 7 sec.

      Effect applied to max 10 allies
      Magic DP +15 for 10 sec. upon using skill

      Summons light within the vitclari that lasts for 30 sec.

      The light summoned from the vitclari will follow enemies or allies, whoever's the closest.

      The light within the vitclari can be attacked by enemies.

      Cooldown: 5 seconds
      Recovers allies' HP by 500 every 10 sec.

      HP recovered by 100 every 2 sec for 10 seconds.

      Effect applied to max 10 allies.

      Summons light within the vitclari that lasts for 30 sec. [Indefinitely]
      Cast again to Unsummon the Light
      The light summoned from the vitclari will follow the Shai
      The light within the vitclari can be attacked by enemies.

      Changes:
      Aggro Cap raised to 4
      Area increased 50%
      The Spirit will leash up to 10 yards to a nearby Ally before returning to the Shai

      Over There!

      KR name: 저기야 저기!

      Over There!

      KR name: 저기야 저기!

      Hit Damage 422% x1 every 3 sec. to nearby enemies

      Maximum 10 targets

      Magic DP +15 for 10 sec. upon using skill

      All AP -20 for 5 sec. on hits

      All Accuracy Rate -12% for 5 sec. on hits

       

      Summons light within the vitclari that lasts for 30 sec.

      The light within the vitclari can be attacked by enemies.

      Cooldown: 5 seconds
      Hit Damage 1122x3 every 3 sec. to nearby enemies
      Maximum 10 targets
      All AP -20 for 5 sec. on hits

      Summons light within the vitclari that lasts for 30 sec. [Indefinitely]
      Cast again to Unsummon the Light
      The light summoned from the vitclari will follow the Shai
      The light within the vitclari can be attacked by enemies.

      Changes:
      Aggro Cap raised to 4
      Area increased 50%

      The Spirit will leash up to 10 yards to a nearby Enemy before returning to the Shai

      Tumble Wumble!
      KR name: 넘어져라 얍!

      Tumble Wumble!
      KR name: 넘어져라 얍!


      Accuracy Rate +5%
      All DP +10 for 10 sec. upon using skill

      Accuracy Rate +10%
      Attack Speed -10% for 10 sec on hit
      Casting Speed -10% for 10 sec on hit


      Fixes:
      Forward Guard duration increased 50%

      Twirl-Boom!

      KR name: 핑그르르 팡!

      Twirl-Boom!

      KR name: 핑그르르 팡!

       

      Accuracy Rate +5%

       

      Accuracy Rate +15%

      Careful!

      KR name: 조심해!

      Careful!

      KR name: 조심해!

      Cooldown: 30 seconds
      HP Recovery +1000 when hitting allies

       

      Cooldown: 20 seconds
      HP Recovery +20% when hitting self and allies.
      Can obtain Florin's Leaf x3 upon using skill.
      Magic DP +15 for 10 sec. upon using skill

      Now!

      KR name: 지금이야!

      Now!

      KR name: 지금이야!

       

      Magic DP +15 for 10 sec. upon using skill

      Also, please fix the UI on our Talent page, the current layout is Horrific and Confusing for new players.

      Side Mentions:

      • (NA, PJs) visible on costumes ruins the aesthetic. Less Harsh Censorship and Better integration of Censorship, if censorship is necessary.
      • If Talent rework related damage increases aren’t enough, Absolutes for Florang may also be necessary.
      • Skill renames
      • Kwik-two > Back!
      • Hop-three > Hop!
      • Twirl-Three > Go Long!

        Final buff… remove Witch and wizard from the game

        Thanks

Last Edit : May 20, 2021, 04:41 (UTC)
# 3

Phelsong going above and beyond as always!

Hopefully someone at PA can see this and at least consider some of these changes because it would at least bring a little inline with other classes in PvE. Be nice not feeling like a forgotten class for once.

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I don't know what 99% of that means, I do agree with your statement that Shai is shit in PvE, I remember when I used to play Shai that if I wanted to be extremely effective at playing her I had to constantly spin around the mobs in a fashion so that my AD+LMB woulld hit constantly, while also Doing this Forward backward dance so that my RMB skills would all also hit.  I got fed up with the 90 billion hits and only having 12 of them land, but having my weapon durability chewed up like I swung 90 billion times.  I got her to 61.70% Tet Kz, Tet Artina (never got it to pen SADGE), and Pen Kutum (weapon swapped once I found a new main).  One day I just got fed up with being 50% effective on her than every other class, So I melted her costumes, and did a full hard reroll, she now sits at Vell until I need to repair my Galleass or I need to bottle her energy.  She actually is logged in for 10 minutes a week (durring vell), and additional hour somewhere throught the month for energy bottling and ship restocking.

 

 

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# 5

Nice post! organised and detailed. Great job.

Last Edit : May 20, 2021, 11:01 (UTC)
# 6

As a shai main, its sad when my skills miss a lot. im hoping for the global labs on the 26th thatt will fix some things, but the class being clunky as you have to rely on hotbars to apply buffs and debuffs, as well as not being able to heal as well as a valk or witchard, feels discouraging at times

Last Edit : May 20, 2021, 13:05 (UTC)
# 7
On: May 20, 2021, 11:01 (UTC), Written by SorryJustIzzy

As a shai main, its sad when my skills miss a lot. im hoping for the global labs on the 26th thatt will fix some things, but the class being clunky as you have to rely on hotbars to apply buffs and debuffs, as well as not being able to heal as well as a valk or witchard, feels discouraging at times

I think we all feel like that.

Last Edit : May 20, 2021, 15:42 (UTC)
# 8

I think all of these changes to Shai would be great.

 

I mained Shai until Sage came out, by the time Sage came out I was so tired of bieng weak at PVE that I took all my AP gears and played Sage for grinding.

 

That said one of the biggest annoyances that I have playing Shai is casting time of Songs, as well as the slow slow animation from swapping.

 

Aside from animation cancels we need to have a skill with 30 second cooldown for instant cast 5s.

 

While the intention of PA for Shai was to be a support / lifeskill class, in nodewars there are many times its impossible to cast songs before getting CC due to slow animations... 

 

We really need instant buff cast skill

 

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# 9
On: May 20, 2021, 15:42 (UTC), Written by Teze

I think all of these changes to Shai would be great.

 

I mained Shai until Sage came out, by the time Sage came out I was so tired of bieng weak at PVE that I took all my AP gears and played Sage for grinding.

 

That said one of the biggest annoyances that I have playing Shai is casting time of Songs, as well as the slow slow animation from swapping.

 

Aside from animation cancels we need to have a skill with 30 second cooldown for instant cast 5s.

 

While the intention of PA for Shai was to be a support / lifeskill class, in nodewars there are many times its impossible to cast songs before getting CC due to slow animations... 

 

We really need instant buff cast skill

 

Just a small note, Pa has never once called Shai a "lifeskill class". Unique, yes... Whimsical.... but "lifeskill class", never once. The Original release notes and Heidel ball (pre release) explicitly said that Shai would be competetive in PvE, weak in PvP combat (in the sense of killing balls of people like a Wizard), and a good support in PvP. 
Kakao fudged 1 translation on a patch notes and the community ran with the label.

Speed is a solution for sure, personally think a FG added to the start of everything would fix a lot as well.  

Last Edit : May 20, 2021, 17:01 (UTC)
# 10
On: May 20, 2021, 15:53 (UTC), Written by Phelsong

Just a small note, Pa has never once called Shai a "lifeskill class". Unique, yes... Whimsical.... but "lifeskill class", never once. The Original release notes and Heidel ball (pre release) explicitly said that Shai would be competetive in PvE, weak in PvP combat (in the sense of killing balls of people like a Wizard), and a good support in PvP. 
Kakao fudged 1 translation on a patch notes and the community ran with the label.

Speed is a solution for sure, personally think a FG added to the start of everything would fix a lot as well.  

I 100% agree 

 

If PA does not want to give shai any reasonable attack power, at least make us much much faster. FG would help, maybe an iframe also.

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