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What the heck is there to do, miserable PVP experiences.
Feb 13, 2026, 02:56 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Feb 13, 2026, 02:56 (UTC)
# 1

I’ve played this game on and off for about four years, with at least one of those years being pretty hardcore. Back then I earned my Fallen God armors and three PEN Blackstars. I recently came back, grabbed the free upgrades, and now I’m sitting around 312 AP / 418 DP.

I have zero interest in grinding ever again. My only reason for playing BDO is the combat for PvP.

Normally I just play AoS during season, and that’s it. But right now there’s literally nothing for me to do. I can’t make node war times, AoS practice queues are over 13 minutes even during peak hours, and I’ve been trying RBF for the last three hours.

As someone with 279 days of playtime (no AFK fishing), it’s honestly infuriating that I’m not even allowed to play PvP. I just get one-shot through protections by people running 100 buffs I don’t recognize, sitting at 850 gear score.

Why is the only casual PvP mode gated behind being a top 1% player?

This is miserable. I can’t play other MMORPGs because their combat feels terrible compared to BDO, and I can’t play BDO because there isn’t a single PvP mode with fair gear.

If you spend 100,000 hours grinding PvE, you should be rewarded in PvE.
If you spend 100,000 hours playing PvP, you should be rewarded in PvP.

I hate when people say, “If gear is equalized, what’s the point of grinding?”
Exactly — that’s the problem. There is no real endgame.

Instead of meaningful content, PA just keeps vertically inflating gear, widening the gap, and handing out free stuff thinking its going to make new players stay all while the time it takes to get to endgame gets longerr and longer. In the end the whole purpose of griding for gear in this game boils down to one-shotting people. That isn’t progression; that’s power creep.

They should be focusing on actual content, not forcing players into endless uninteresting PvE just to participate in PvP.

I have a full-time job. I’m in school. I have a wife. I don’t have time to grind five hours a day just to be allowed to PvP.

Please give us capped RBFs or at the very least, remove buffs from RBF and heavily reduce gear score modifiers. Gear CAN matter, sure but maybe by 10–20%, not by giving someone a literal 1000% advantage.

Right now, it feels like PvP simply isn’t designed for anyone with a real life. In a game that is supposed to have high skill expression gear just throws that out the window. Thats my ted talk I feel better now.

Last Edit : Feb 13, 2026, 03:41 (UTC)
# 2

Build crafting can be fun too if there is good depth in it.
Personally would keep RBF as endgame and add more capped modes to bring players eventually into RBF.
Like a caravan protection mode in ow would be lot of fun.

Last Edit : Feb 13, 2026, 09:15 (UTC)
# 3
On: Feb 13, 2026, 02:56 (UTC), Written by CamCamm

I’ve played this game on and off for about four years, with at least one of those years being pretty hardcore. Back then I earned my Fallen God armors and three PEN Blackstars. I recently came back, grabbed the free upgrades, and now I’m sitting around 312 AP / 418 DP.

I have zero interest in grinding ever again. My only reason for playing BDO is the combat for PvP.

Normally I just play AoS during season, and that’s it. But right now there’s literally nothing for me to do. I can’t make node war times, AoS practice queues are over 13 minutes even during peak hours, and I’ve been trying RBF for the last three hours.

As someone with 279 days of playtime (no AFK fishing), it’s honestly infuriating that I’m not even allowed to play PvP. I just get one-shot through protections by people running 100 buffs I don’t recognize, sitting at 850 gear score.

Why is the only casual PvP mode gated behind being a top 1% player?

This is miserable. I can’t play other MMORPGs because their combat feels terrible compared to BDO, and I can’t play BDO because there isn’t a single PvP mode with fair gear.

If you spend 100,000 hours grinding PvE, you should be rewarded in PvE.
If you spend 100,000 hours playing PvP, you should be rewarded in PvP.

I hate when people say, “If gear is equalized, what’s the point of grinding?”
Exactly — that’s the problem. There is no real endgame.

Instead of meaningful content, PA just keeps vertically inflating gear, widening the gap, and handing out free stuff thinking its going to make new players stay all while the time it takes to get to endgame gets longerr and longer. In the end the whole purpose of griding for gear in this game boils down to one-shotting people. That isn’t progression; that’s power creep.

They should be focusing on actual content, not forcing players into endless uninteresting PvE just to participate in PvP.

I have a full-time job. I’m in school. I have a wife. I don’t have time to grind five hours a day just to be allowed to PvP.

Please give us capped RBFs or at the very least, remove buffs from RBF and heavily reduce gear score modifiers. Gear CAN matter, sure but maybe by 10–20%, not by giving someone a literal 1000% advantage.

Right now, it feels like PvP simply isn’t designed for anyone with a real life. In a game that is supposed to have high skill expression gear just throws that out the window. Thats my ted talk I feel better now.

it doesnt even matter if your a top 1% or 10% or whatever the PVP meta in uncapped gear is litterally unfun garbage. we are in an extreme tank meta and have been for a while on top of that most classes in the game warp all around the map with no down sides in full protection even in CC on some of them. and they do this at speeds the server can barely keep up with as well as Im sure you are aware the view distance in the game for players is not very far. This leads to being warped on from out of view distance or people not even on your map and as my class which is completely reactionary based it leads to a lot of un fun interactions.

the whole game right now for PVP is trading damage in Super armors leaving older classes with frontals basically sub par in comparison.

If you played PVP in the past when there was fun open world combat with full guild comradry and people always having your back when you got ganked at sausans or pirates? ya those times are long gone and all the rest of the stuff its gone and the PVP is in a terrible state.
now luckily they finally brought back 2 hour wars but like you said if you cant make the times thats it the only other PVP there is in the game is AOS which is also time restricted to specific times of the day and also is season based comes and goes.

If you dont enjoy grinding mobs or group grinding mobs ( which they finally added some new group content spots)  then I would say run games not worth your time. They also added some group boss fights with mechanics and also a dungeon series now this is good content but when you compare it to other MMOs its not very difficult and does start feeling extremely streamlined and easy after a couple runs.

 Im kinda beginning of end game in gear progression I can kill people I can play into most classes but if  I catch a target with CC and go to punish and they just barely take damage believe me its the most unfun garbage ever. luckily RBF now makes some decent money  not incredible ammount but its enough that it feels ok to just hop in and hop around and kill stuff sometimes and I do mean sometimes with how many people are just DP stacked builds.

Most players are doing T1 and T2 wars anyways I think with how terrible the devs are at balance they could remove uncapped all together and just  capp gear in all content for PVP and no one would care we are already down a bad balance patch as is witht he tank meta and everything else no one would bat an eye since most people are already doing capped fighting with thier guilds if they are in the PVP scene its just facts.

Last Edit : Feb 13, 2026, 10:21 (UTC)
# 4

Some will hate this reply, but IMO it has to be said: we had it, and it was the so called "one shot meta".
Player could alleviate the gear difference by stacking AP. Sure, the glass cannon was fragile, and encounters were short lived, but you could put up a fight with significantly lower GS.

There were two issues, tho:
- PA has to introduce new gear because their monetization depends on it. For that to work players have to feel powerfull at higher GS, and you cannot feel powerful when some gearlet with 50GS less two-shots you.

- The one shot meta was pushing for use of fast assasin type classes. I'm biased, because archer was benefiting from it heavily. That said, compared to current meta it was IMO less frustrating.

Separate issue is gear gap caused by introduction of DEC gear. Before you could sit at TET and someone "geared" had PENs. Now? You sit at PEN, and someone geared at DEC. Why even bother, lol.

Last Edit : Feb 13, 2026, 11:38 (UTC)
# 5
On: Feb 13, 2026, 02:56 (UTC), Written by CamCamm

As someone with 279 days of playtime (no AFK fishing), it’s honestly infuriating that I’m not even allowed to play PvP.


Did you reach Guru 18 via all active fishing time? That is amazing!

Last Edit : Feb 13, 2026, 15:08 (UTC)
# 6
On: Feb 13, 2026, 11:38 (UTC), Written by Champers


Did you reach Guru 18 via all active fishing time? That is amazing!

No afk fishing)

Last Edit : Feb 13, 2026, 16:46 (UTC)
# 7

Let's keep it real. It is very nice of them, to have a mode, with that little requirements for everyone to enjoy.  For the other part; it's always a schedule thing.

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Last Edit : Feb 13, 2026, 19:04 (UTC)
# 8

I feel like I finally understand the hate behind the DR stacking meta. I recently bought my human damage setup to fend off people in Arsha. Today I got to try it out, and while it felt good against some people, all it takes is someone showing up in a regular DR setup to take the fun away.

The only answer was to put my DR gear back on and fight an everlasting battle that lasted over 30 minutes without anyone dying, until the guy hopped worlds.

With a full blast-damage build, I could kill this person in maybe 2–3ish consecutive full grab combos, while he could kill me in about 2ish. But with regular DR gear on, full AP Khazarads, I was literally tickling him while he was doing the same to me for a painful 30minute. 

Before today's events I was full on in the DR bandwagon, since it gave me an opportunity to feel the open world PvP. It was great at first for sure. Now I think it's not healthy for the game.  I feel like the issue isn't stacking DR, but the ability to do damage while stacking it. You aren't rewarded enough for stacking damage currently, but you're rewarded handsomly for stacking DR. 

Last Edit : Feb 13, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
# 9
On: Feb 13, 2026, 18:47 (UTC), Written by VanRicki

I feel like I finally understand the hate behind the DR stacking meta. I recently bought my human damage setup to fend off people in Arsha. Today I got to try it out, and while it felt good against some people, all it takes is someone showing up in a regular DR setup to take the fun away.

The only answer was to put my DR gear back on and fight an everlasting battle that lasted over 30 minutes without anyone dying, until the guy hopped worlds.

With a full blast-damage build, I could kill this person in maybe 2–3ish consecutive full grab combos, while he could kill me in about 2ish. But with regular DR gear on, full AP Khazarads, I was literally tickling him while he was doing the same to me for a painful 30minute. 

Before today's events I was full on in the DR bandwagon, since it gave me an opportunity to feel the open world PvP. It was great at first for sure. Now I think it's not healthy for the game.  I feel like the issue isn't stacking DR, but the ability to do damage while stacking it. You aren't rewarded enough for stacking damage currently, but you're rewarded handsomly for stacking DR. 

Depends on the class and gear but I'll hop into rbf  be able to kill some classes all day long then I outplay some tank class and with full AP build even accuracy on  I can't even hurt them.....  like I would understand not killing them but not even taking out half thier Health in a full combo is why uncapped is dead content.

Tanks being tanky is 1 thing tanks be unhealthy unkillable while also being able to nuke the classes who are basically full glass is why the pvp scene where you actually use your gear is dead.

Last Edit : Feb 14, 2026, 00:42 (UTC)
# 10

I love the concept of red battlefield but i get deleted from them exhaling LMAO

the gear system is very complicated i waste alot of silver doing upgrades just to hear theres a easier way to do it.

But am gonna do more research on how to gear pvp cause even with blackstar gear feels like am light years away from surving a hit 

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