Those 2 mechanics are extremely toxic for the game pvp and makes it super unfun. 

Whenever you fight against grab classes or slow stacking classes, it is really annoying especially since those 2 things barely have any drawbacks on certain classes, and there is literally nothing you could do against being slowed or insta grabbed by a class with broken grab. Zero counterplay at all.  

Grabs are unique mechanics for this game, which allow you for instant win if you fight someone on same gear lvl as you. The longer BDO is developed the more problem it gets since classes are becoming WAY FASTER than before, paired with fps advantage and faster animations makes for the nightware we have right now. 

With the amount of mobility today classes have, it is a lot easier to land a grab than it was ever before, in fact also thanks to the share amount of ranged CC which makes grab landing ever more easier!

What we need in the game is to make such broken game mechanic more punishable if used incorrectly.

All grabs should have increased cooldown to 30 seconds and have the protections on them removed altogether.

There is no reason why these have like 8-10 seconds cooldown, are protected some are iframes and are super easy to land on some classes with the newest battle assistance feature. Some grabs on other classes need a fix so they are not that different from the rest to even out the playground. 

Another thing is slows stacking. 

I believe PA does not want to remove the stacking, however even after making it reducing speed down to base 50% these are still incredibly broken.

Slows should only be able to slow down to 100% base attack/movement speed, period.

Everyone and their mother plays with 5 speed + crystals today, slows still are going to give a big advantage but wont we as stupid as they are right now. Slows are usually super easy to apply and are given to the classes left and right on skills like they are candies. It should not be that way, it gives WAY TOO BIG advantage over how easy it is to apply. 

Wizzards and witches for example were and still are powerful because of slows being incredibly overpowered aspect of the game.

Just fix those 2 things, thanks. 

Slows should simply not stack.

Or SA should also protect agains slows and should remove exitsing ones. That way it's fine with stacking even without limit.

can we agree that spamming iframes is the most toxic gameelement? spamming iframes that changes your position and makes you shortly invisible as well. over and over in a way too rapid pace. is there a counterplay to it? not really. does it counter grabs? yes.

as long as we have classes blinking around, dealing damage and throwing endless ccs inbetween, we cant do any of this changes at all.

Well we all know when PA comes up with a good idea they like to repeat the living sh*t out of it til it becomes unbearable.

1 or 2 classes with a standard grab...

Community says "Hey thats pretty cool"

PA response "They liked it...lets put range protected,kd grabs on every class!"

1 or 2 classes got an iframe...

Community says "Hey thats pretty cool"

PA response "They liked it...Lets make every class from now on do nothing but blink around the screen like the lights on a Christmas tree.

They like to take an idea that would be great in moderation...and suck it dry to their isnt anything left but players blinking around the screen doing nothing but ranged, protected,kd grabs.

The pvp today if you dont play one of these type of classes even hitting anything is hard everybody just blinks.And even if you do hit them they can just blink away safely til full health and come back...its getting pretty terrible.

I cannot agree with nerfing grabs or the removal of them. Classes that rely on grabs wouldn't compete with other classes that don't have them.

To begin with, not all grabs are protected, and some classes have bad animations for when they miss.

1.) if used from too short a range, it can cause u to lose the fight for throwing it out.

2.) If a player trys to grab, and someone Iframes away, it is countered, and sometimes can cause u to lose the fight.

3.) Honestly, the situation I personally hate the most is when I gap close, use my grab, and then rng resistances say I missed, then I die. Even the idea that a person grappled another person from upclose, but missed? breaks my immersion ijs. 

Personally, I think resistances, slows, and accuracy and evasion need to go.

In an action combat game, where movement is key, slows are very punishing. Ranged classes have natural advantage, and in a game where people need to catch the other, why is resistances a thing? You can outplay your enemy, but lose because of resistances. Same with accuracy/evasion, why is this a thing when we have an aimer? 

how is that even slowing then?

slows are soft form of cc and they nerfed it enough. problem is that there are way too many protected aoe slows that are easily applied.

Problem is, if there are I frames or 360 SA FG classes in the game, then grabs are needed 100%.

The Slow stacking is BS, and shouldn't go above 50% total, being able to negate all move speed and attack speed buffs and then go beyond that and slow someone by 50% of base is stupid.  You are no longer out playing your oppnent when they just simply can not move.

the point of slows IS to put u in trouble and make u way easier to kill man. its not meant to be a debuff icon that barely inconveniences you. that being said i will repeat myself - the issue is not slow mechanics but rather abundance of protected slows that are super easy to apply to enemies and that are hard to punish. 

aoe and protected slows shouldnt exist. see skills like devastation, gravedigging, prime lightning spells that are protected, some BON skills that enable protected slows etc.  guardian passive is also too oppressive. skills that already slow shouldnt be allowed to put addons that slow on top of them.

Good that atleast one person here is addressing the issue.

Slows are fine as it is (now that they limited it), the problem is that to many skills does it (hello guardian) while being both protected and aoe.

You have 150% speed with all 5 stats, addons and stone.

If you go from 150% to 100% its already 33% slow which is strong enough to give you stupidly overpowered advantage over someone else. 

And forget they will change the skills, they barely know which skills which class have and you expect them to change it? Lol not in this century, not in this universe get real. 

At least they could nerf slows altogether because i doubt they will be able to hold themselves when creating more new classes, they just created nova with even more broken slow. Just nerf the stupid mechanic altogether so it wont be a problem even in the future.