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DR in RBF - Let the players choose
Feb 26, 2021, 15:56 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Feb 26, 2021, 15:56 (UTC)
# 1

Look, I personally HATE the DR changes that were added to RBF a while back.

 

Give us half RBF servers with it and half without it and let the community have angancy on what they wish to involve themselves in.

 

I legitimatly cannot think of a single pro when it comes to DR amplifications in RBF. Only cons, it has killed the mode for me & many of my mates. The community will decide what version is better. I am bias as heck but I'd bet my account that no DR RBF would be more popular than DR RBF.

 

Just give us the choice please. I cant even enjoy my alts in there anymore because the DR.

 

Trial characters used to be able to carry in RBF if someone was good enough. Now trial is useless, the DR isnt applied coz you get 1 shot & when you catch someone the DR kicks in for them and you cannot kill them when you outplay them. I honestly am disgusted at the people who decided to impliment this.

Last Edit : Feb 26, 2021, 16:27 (UTC)
# 2

dr buff is good, imho, otherwise people would be dropping like flies like in nodewars. :D

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Last Edit : Feb 27, 2021, 00:22 (UTC)
# 3
On: Feb 26, 2021, 16:27 (UTC), Written by Seeryus

dr buff is good, imho, otherwise people would be dropping like flies like in nodewars. :D

DR in RBF allows you to do stupid plays that should get you killed and rewarded for it if you have high evasion because that DR amplifies the high gs players like Renwon did.

 

Its so unhealthy for new players, sure. You dont have people dropping like flies anymore. Though you now cant be rewarded for flanking and outplaying an enemy back line. Cant be rewarded for rushing in on a group of players trying to flank your squad, CC'ing them all and killing them. They will survive now.

 

RBF is more gear dependant than ever. My guardian is an immortal in there because of the DR shifts. I shouldnt be allowed to run into a group unchallenged because I know the 10%Hp DR will save my life.

 

Removes all skill from engagements. Just hold W and hope your team follows (They never do though).

 

Let the players decide what we think is best. I bet you anything the majority of RBF players will ignore the DR servers because its unhealthy to force such a crap dynamic.

Last Edit : Feb 27, 2021, 07:04 (UTC)
# 4
Publicado: 26 feb. 2021, 16:27 (UTC), Autor: Seeryus

dr buff is good, imho, otherwise people would be dropping like flies like in nodewars. :D

I mean.. as the OP said it just creates more gear imbalance + some extra class unbalance as not everyone benefits the same.
And as an extra and i feel the main issue, it creates a fake experience, you dont take nor deal the same amount of damage in there so you cant really learn how far you should or can push it or what can you really do with your class/gear, its just not intuitive and kinda sets apart rbf from every single other pvp experience on bdo making it its own separated world.

Having two different worlds just makes balancing even harder, a change that makes sense for rbf might not make sense for anything else and vice versa like for example buffing nova awak damage as she struggles to kill in rbf way more than outside of it as her burst is CD heavy, for her needing one extra skill to kill might be already enough to make her not viable.


RBF isnt a good place to learn anymore and with enough wizards its not even fun tbh (yet not sure this has anything to do with "extra dr" but i wanted to add it because f*** wizards.)

Last Edit : Feb 28, 2021, 04:25 (UTC)
# 5

I have not seen any issues with the RBF DR. People still die plenty fast, and it scales based on your HP, you only get the 50% DR at 10% HP. It doesnt actually make that much of a difference with several guys with 290+ AP are whacking you in the face.

Last Edit : Feb 28, 2021, 04:47 (UTC)
# 6

I'd like to see the DR removed.

 

Why? Because I think RBF used to be a good way to practice for large scale pvp. But now, with the DR change, it's not the same as open world/node/siege. And makes it harder for a new players/players trying out new classes to actually learn how to play in those situations, since it gives a false sense of what large scale PvP is actually like.

Last Edit : Feb 28, 2021, 05:38 (UTC)
# 7
On: Feb 26, 2021, 16:27 (UTC), Written by Seeryus

dr buff is good, imho, otherwise people would be dropping like flies like in nodewars. :D

You mean you like it becasue it directly makes YOUR class stronger?

like every other change that is made to this game INCLUDING nerfing one of YOUR abilities?

Last Edit : Feb 28, 2021, 07:56 (UTC)
# 8
On: Feb 28, 2021, 04:25 (UTC), Written by Frozenfist

I have not seen any issues with the RBF DR. People still die plenty fast, and it scales based on your HP, you only get the 50% DR at 10% HP. It doesnt actually make that much of a difference with several guys with 290+ AP are whacking you in the face.

This depends on your class.

 

I am well aware of how the DR is applied.

 

My guardian is an unstopable unit at 10% HP. If I am sub 50% health I use a SA skill to get myself as low as I can, goal here is 10%. Then I hit Q and hold my block stance with this DR applied. Me doing this exploits the HP DR amplifiers meaning even when my Q block is zero I still take reduced damage on a push back stagger giving my team even more time to push forward while the enemy attempt to focus me down.

 

The fact I can face tank a platoon of players because of my poor positioning and maybe turn the tide on an exchange is stupid. 

 

This is a classic example of a bad play. Thanks to DR I dont get punished for the Big Dumb.

Last Edit : Feb 28, 2021, 15:00 (UTC)
# 9
On: Feb 28, 2021, 05:37 (UTC), Written by Emilimia

You mean you like it becasue it directly makes YOUR class stronger?

like every other change that is made to this game INCLUDING nerfing one of YOUR abilities?

awakened casters are kinda fubared by pa changes due to lack of mobility. 

 

succession ones, not that much.

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Seeryus
Last Edit : Feb 28, 2021, 22:57 (UTC)
# 10
On: Feb 28, 2021, 04:47 (UTC), Written by Arke

I'd like to see the DR removed.

 

Why? Because I think RBF used to be a good way to practice for large scale pvp. But now, with the DR change, it's not the same as open world/node/siege. And makes it harder for a new players/players trying out new classes to actually learn how to play in those situations, since it gives a false sense of what large scale PvP is actually like.

RBF is a terrible way to simulate largescale in any way besides finding out how long you can survive in a group of enemies. Node wars are organized with calls, RBF is an all-out melee where everyone just plays for themselves.

 

On: Feb 28, 2021, 07:56 (UTC), Written by SaltySaint

This depends on your class.

 

I am well aware of how the DR is applied.

 

My guardian is an unstopable unit at 10% HP. If I am sub 50% health I use a SA skill to get myself as low as I can, goal here is 10%. Then I hit Q and hold my block stance with this DR applied. Me doing this exploits the HP DR amplifiers meaning even when my Q block is zero I still take reduced damage on a push back stagger giving my team even more time to push forward while the enemy attempt to focus me down.

 

The fact I can face tank a platoon of players because of my poor positioning and maybe turn the tide on an exchange is stupid. 

 

This is a classic example of a bad play. Thanks to DR I dont get punished for the Big Dumb.

You clearly don;t understand how DR is applied. You apparently think it increases your damage reduction, the stat. It in fact is a flat % damage mitigated. In other words, when you are 10% hp you take half the damage you would have taken at 51% HP. Even if it did increase your DR by 50%, if you are a DR stacker you are likely already over the 310 softcap and therefore it would only increase your DR by an effective ~17%. You can tank an entire team because Guardian is busted, not because the DR modifier in RBF is. You aren't getting punished because your class is one of the worst balanced when it comes to largecale.

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