The shai already provides one of the most if not the most needed utility in the game. The shai bongos take this one step further. Pearl Abyss, your servers are awful. The amount of threads about people disconnecting, getting knocked out of SA, crashing is rediculous. Your servers cannot support this ability. Even the smallest microgap is caught by a unkillable shai bongo that can be spammed over and over. And most of the time its not even our fault, its the terrible servers that caused you to get knocked out of SA by this ability.
Remove the skill, or lower the hit count per second, but it literally is game breaking.
PA wont fix thier game everyone has infinite SAs with high damage there used to be a time where people CCed people onto thier backs ot actually deal damage now its spin to win everywhere really rivitting gameplay that.
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You’re misinformed about how Forest's Echo actually works in general and to be fair, most people are. I’d suggest a simple test: when you see a Shai using bongos, dash in and grab her, then come back and reconsider this statement: ‘Even the smallest microgap is caught by an unkillable Shai during bongos.’
You’re a Berserker main, so you probably already know what actually happens, I remind you that grabs have 0,3 seconds of unprotections.
Shai bongos are extremely easy to protection trade within and kill, the shai just stands there. Also it's 1 of the 2 protected CC skills shai has which was ruined on resistance removal that makes it almost impossible depending on the class to CC chain from bongos into a skill that can actually do damage. Maybe look at it from shai point of view. Sounds like a skill issue on your end
PA needs to rework shai completely.
Bongo's are only a cop-out for shai's inability to function as a normal class.
Puff, asking to delete bongos from the class is criminal xD. You’re basically asking to remove half of Shai’s protections, and she’s already the most unprotected class in the game, I don’t even find bongos that annoying it’s very easy to tell when a Shai is using them, and she’s completely static while doing it, so… meh. And the fact that she can cap you with stiffness can actually be good for the enemy if the Shai doesn’t use it properly.
Also, suggesting that Shai is the source of server problems or that she’s ‘unkillable’ is rich coming from a Berserker. Even after the removal of mouse movement, Berserker is still the class that desyncs the most in the game. It’s not as bad as it used to be, but I still see Zerkers teleporting into grab almost daily. And Berserkers are more unkillable. Shai uses DP builds mainly to survive, Berserker use them to be the most obnoxious thing on the battlefield.
Shai is fine she’s a support class, like in any other MMO. She could use some minor tweaks here and there to her protections, but that’s about it. I’m honestly surprised you reached level 66 on the class and still think this way. If you want a ‘normal’ class, there are about 28 others you can choose from.
Puff, asking to delete bongos from the class is criminal xD. You’re basically asking to remove half of Shai’s protections, and she’s already the most unprotected class in the game, I don’t even find bongos that annoying it’s very easy to tell when a Shai is using them, and she’s completely static while doing it, so… meh. And the fact that she can cap you with stiffness can actually be good for the enemy if the Shai doesn’t use it properly.
Also, suggesting that Shai is the source of server problems or that she’s ‘unkillable’ is rich coming from a Berserker. Even after the removal of mouse movement, Berserker is still the class that desyncs the most in the game. It’s not as bad as it used to be, but I still see Zerkers teleporting into grab almost daily. And Berserkers are more unkillable. Shai uses DP builds mainly to survive, Berserker use them to be the most obnoxious thing on the battlefield.
Shai is fine she’s a support class, like in any other MMO. She could use some minor tweaks here and there to her protections, but that’s about it. I’m honestly surprised you reached level 66 on the class and still think this way. If you want a ‘normal’ class, there are about 28 others you can choose from.
me when i play the most broken class in the game ( awk ninja) and lie on the internet for free
me when i play the most broken class in the game ( awk ninja) and lie on the internet for free
I kind of feel bad for talking that way about Berserkers. I know what it means to main a class you like, and I can understand how my comments could come across as a personal attack. That said, I find it impossible to defend full DP Berserker builds they’re simply too much.
I’ll give you that Ninja is strong right now, but it’s far from the strongest class. As for Berserker desync, it’s easy to spot if you watch one for a few minutes, it doesn’t take long to see the teleport grabs. My guess is that those desyncs happen when a Zerker does a sharp turn on lava piercer in to grab from outside is a tp grab.
My main issue with Berserker is that when it’s built full DP, the gameplay becomes overly simple and oppressive. Extended grabs in that build are completely broken. In the past, Berserkers had to be careful and measure their grabs or risk dying at least, now there’s practically no complexity involved. That said, if DP gear were removed, I’ll admit Berserker would have some trouble.
The bongos are poorly designed and Shai as others have said in here should be reworked to be a proper class.
A multi hit CC aura around someone while they stand in 1 spot blocking an entrance or something is stupid game design even if you can SA or Iframe past it its still just bad.
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