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Dernière modification : 4 mars 2021, 12:11 (UTC)
# 31
Am 04. Mrz 2021, 11:05 (UTC), von Smileybones

Exactly, why worry about the big picture when you can be lazily short-sighted about a single item in an outdated context.

 

I mean it's not like BDO is the kind of game designed to last a decade.

 

All the actual inventory slots complainers didn't address the fact that said slots aren't as much needed for grinding as they used to be but complaining is easier than giving the issue a minimal thought process.

 

Lastly the fact that what was added in the shop doesn't seem interesting for your own selfish person, doesn't mean everyone shares your opinion about those items value.

Ok...uhm do you really play this game? Honestly  I need to ask.

 

I guess you are the one who is a bit "short sighted". Its ok they expanded the shop now..no problem dude all fine no one complain about it.... . (I dont know how many times we need to say this...THIS IS NOT THE TOPIC FFS)

 

So you think slots are  not much need for grinding?

Yes, maybe but still there are a lot of spots which need besides of your normal stuff in your inventory quite a lot of inventory space.

 

Or do you grind for example..."JUST AN EXAMPLE!....

without Pots?

without Bufffood?

without scrolls? (xp, loot, talent)

and so one....

 

It is just a tiny list of few items which you will nearly always have in your inventory...ah wait we have famaly inventory...oh wait its also behind a buyable option...argh...shit...here we go again...damn.

 

Besides of this you have also other stuff in your inventory, or do you play completly without anything?

 

Like tools, Buff for lifeskill, Quest items...

(Ever entered Odylitaa Quest line? No? Yeah please try it and you wil lsee you need some inventory space for this shit)

 

Besides of this always a ton of event Items, token from RBF and so on and so on...

 

So short sighted is only you...sorry to say this...because you only look at grinding of mobs...and this is bullshit.

 

Ever thought a bout fishing? Yes no need for inventory expansion.....I fucking eat them directly....

Ever thought about farming with a pickaxe? Where you sometimes receive 8+ Items?

 

I could process this list further more.... and when you think you dont need it, you are wrong...there are so many items at the moment in game....even when you organize your shit in the cities in the storage.... .

 

So this is why I asked you at the beginning, "Do you even play this game?"

Dernière modification : 4 mars 2021, 12:29 (UTC)
# 32
Écrit le : 4 mars 2021, 12:11 (UTC), par : Mandrake

Ok...uhm do you really play this game? Honestly  I need to ask.

 

I guess you are the one who is a bit "short sighted". Its ok they expanded the shop now..no problem dude all fine no one complain about it.... . (I dont know how many times we need to say this...THIS IS NOT THE TOPIC FFS)

 

So you think slots are  not much need for grinding?

Yes, maybe but still there are a lot of spots which need besides of your normal stuff in your inventory quite a lot of inventory space.

 

Or do you grind for example..."JUST AN EXAMPLE!....

without Pots?

without Bufffood?

without scrolls? (xp, loot, talent)

and so one....

 

It is just a tiny list of few items which you will nearly always have in your inventory...ah wait we have famaly inventory...oh wait its also behind a buyable option...argh...shit...here we go again...damn.

 

Besides of this you have also other stuff in your inventory, or do you play completly without anything?

 

Like tools, Buff for lifeskill, Quest items...

(Ever entered Odylitaa Quest line? No? Yeah please try it and you wil lsee you need some inventory space for this shit)

 

Besides of this always a ton of event Items, token from RBF and so on and so on...

 

So short sighted is only you...sorry to say this...because you only look at grinding of mobs...and this is bullshit.

 

Ever thought a bout fishing? Yes no need for inventory expansion.....I fucking eat them directly....

Ever thought about farming with a pickaxe? Where you sometimes receive 8+ Items?

 

I could process this list further more.... and when you think you dont need it, you are wrong...there are so many items at the moment in game....even when you organize your shit in the cities in the storage.... .

 

So this is why I asked you at the beginning, "Do you even play this game?"

 

Feel free to browse my player profile at your convenience, I feel no need to contribute further to interact with you since you don't address any of my points yet you insist on displaying so much incompetence at solving basic logistic problems:

 

EG: at my fishing level I regularly pull 40m a night with basic (100% free even with current loyalties standards) storage slots without sweating, I'll just let this example sink.

 

 

Dernière modification : 4 mars 2021, 12:57 (UTC)
# 33
On: Mar 4, 2021, 12:24 (UTC), Written by Smileybones

 

Feel free to browse my player profile at your convenience, I feel no need to contribute further to interact with you since you don't address any of my points yet you insist on displaying so much incompetence at solving basic logistic problems:

 

EG: at my fishing level I regularly pull 40m a night with basic (100% free even with current loyalties standards) storage slots without sweating, I'll just let this example sink.

 

 

You are a dumb slut who talks entirely too much and should honestly just shut the fuck up, obrigado

Dernière modification : 4 mars 2021, 13:32 (UTC)
# 34
Am 04. Mrz 2021, 12:24 (UTC), von Smileybones

 

Feel free to browse my player profile at your convenience, I feel no need to contribute further to interact with you since you don't address any of my points yet you insist on displaying so much incompetence at solving basic logistic problems:

 

EG: at my fishing level I regularly pull 40m a night with basic (100% free even with current loyalties standards) storage slots without sweating, I'll just let this example sink.

 

 

Dude...how many times we need to say it to you...

 

THIS IS NOT THE TOPIC

 

Its not the topic about:

 

"Wow look all this new stuff we can get now from the revampt loyalty system/shop"

 

The topic is: they killed this option and there is no other way, besides of to buy it with hard cash now!.

 

You complety ignore it and talk about a certain other things and complain about it, that nobody listen on you???!!!  c.O wtf??

Besides of this, you just go in an example and tell us how many money you make still.....urgh...is this a concentration problem of you or what is wrong?

 

Again...this is not the topic!!!

Dernière modification : 4 mars 2021, 13:43 (UTC)
# 35
Écrit le : 4 mars 2021, 13:32 (UTC), par : Mandrake

Dude...how many times we need to say it to you...

 

THIS IS NOT THE TOPIC

 

Its not the topic about:

 

"Wow look all this new stuff we can get now from the revampt loyalty system/shop"

 

The topic is: they killed this option and there is no other way, besides of to buy it with hard cash now!.

 

You complety ignore it and talk about a certain other things and complain about it, that nobody listen on you???!!!  c.O wtf??

Besides of this, you just go in an example and tell us how many money you make still.....urgh...is this a concentration problem of you or what is wrong?

 

Again...this is not the topic!!!

Yeah you arrogantly claim I don't play BDO, I prove you factually wrong then you keep serving us your this isn't the topic nonsense even tho my example disproves your pretend necessity for storage slots. This only further illustrates why competent gamers don't need to interact further with you on this topic.

Dernière modification : 4 mars 2021, 13:59 (UTC)
# 36

I don't really read what u guys write, just gloss it a little. I think, maybe, others do same thing. Could be an item of consideration. I just don't... want the bad, u know. it makes me feel bad, so I rather not. And we all know, like u who write too, that this discussion is 90% huff and puff now; so there's not much to read.

Sorry guys, I need positive input rn so I have to be rude and not read. I'm not saying this to be mean.

 

I am a notoriously bad inventory organizer. I got like 150/186 slots, always. It's enough tho, for what I do. What happens when you have few slots is that you have to off some stuff, all the god damn time. Every time you in town, u gona want to clean up. And, well, that's good stuff cause it get your inventory sorted nicely. But even better is not having to sort that.

It's not a disaster, not being able to endlessly purchase inventory slots. The compensation is a doubled loyalty income and more items for sale. I mean, if they're doubling the loyalty it's understandable that they like the inventory slots, which is probably the best of those, to be a bit less accessible. It's a business and I don't think they're being unreasonable because it's not like you going to have 5 slots. You'll have like 50, surely? Idk.. but that u can do. It's not convenient and ya, it will cost time, but what are they going to sell then, if not that? Idk.. the problem with these discussions is that it's always wrong demanding money for anything. It's ok for me, I come into this knowing how it would be. You did too. But ya, if this goes serious p2w i'm leaving. This is not it, though; in my mind.

Dernière modification : 4 mars 2021, 14:35 (UTC)
# 37
Am 04. Mrz 2021, 13:43 (UTC), von Smileybones

Yeah you arrogantly claim I don't play BDO, I prove you factually wrong then you keep serving us your this isn't the topic nonsense even tho my example disproves your pretend necessity for storage slots. This only further illustrates why competent gamers don't need to interact further with you on this topic.

I will not comment this further more, the last thing I will say is following for your inner peace and I hope you are glad about this:

Am 04. Mrz 2021, 08:00 (UTC), von Smileybones

 

What are those alrtenatives removed from players you speak about ? As far as I know there is only storage slots that is concerned.

 

Besides, why don't you mention the fact that nowadays players need way less storage slots than before since newly introduced grind spots (by new I mean since Kamasylvia era actually) don't flood players with non stackable items anymore ?

 

Additionally, why nobody mentionned the added alternatives that Pearl Abyss introduced last patch, leading our shop to be overall more appealing for f2p and loyal players than before ?

 

The honesty you mention should point those facts out.

 

Ok cool... we can buy storage now....whic we alreay could...which we also could infinite...well now its limited too....will reset every week and you can buy 5 times for every region one storage upgrade...cool....PA also put a limit on this which is not neccessary....

 

You can also buy Theia Orbs...cool... limited of 1 reset every week.... .

You can buy Buff scrolls...which were still ingame...but now revampt with a limit too...3 per week.... . (Improvement? I think not)

You can buy a dice, resets every week.... . cool.... .

Artisan memory...yes this is good.... .

and so on....Arkana, Juice....and so on and so on...

 

Btw this items are Event Items which means, they will not be forever in the rotation.

 

......

.....

.....

 

Storage slots are cool...we can buy it still....now with a limit per week....well... .

 

"Additionally, why nobody mentionned the added alternatives that Pearl Abyss introduced last patch, leading our shop to be overall more appealing for f2p and loyal players than before ?"

 

I hope I mentioned all "alternatives" (which are no really alternatives...but ok) that Pearl Abyss introduces last patch...which will make it overall more appealing for f2p and loyal players than before..... .

 

I hope your inner peace is now settled.

Dernière modification : 4 mars 2021, 18:14 (UTC)
# 38
On: Mar 4, 2021, 09:35 (UTC), Written by Avaroxy

I'm honestly baffled by the blatant ignorance here.

OP started this topic voicing concern about inventory slot limitation and removal and suddenly we swapped to: be grateful for all the other stuff they added to the Loyalty Shop??? How does it solve inventory issues when you can buy 1 Capotia accessory per year or 4 Theias Orbs in 4 weeks? This doesn't adress the initial problem that was brought up.

 

Let me put a very simplified and exaggerated example:

OP: oh damn, all the apples are sold out in the stores. I can't bake an apple pie.

Smiley: You can still buy bananas, I don't know what you are QQing about.

An excellent point and illustration.  Yes he likes to troll the forums.

 

This is in fact a big issue that can easily be resolved by removing the restrictions.  If you create a new character today without the new release inventory and do all the quests it will still be quite lacking.

 

In addition, new items are being released all the time.  Just these recent patches alone introduce STACKS UPON STACKS of new items that are quite necessary for end game.

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Dernière modification : 4 mars 2021, 18:29 (UTC)
# 39

Bunch of f'ing trolls.  Of course the better geared, better buffed character usually wins 9x out of 10, unless ya know they are P2W and got their character powerleveled and have no clue how to use their skills or the mechanics of how thier charcters work.

 

Anyone else saying "get gud" or some shit like that hasn't actually done much PvP but ran only their mouth.

Dernière modification : 4 mars 2021, 20:42 (UTC)
# 40

I mentioned this in other threads I'll mention it here since it relates. PA has realized their income from whales is running dry. Most whales are in full PEN C20 boss gear right now they have zero reason to keep investing the 1-10k dollars a month they use to in order to buy gear. 

 

Why does that relate here well what happens March 24th? A new seasonal server and a new classe. What does this result in? People making brand new characters for the new class an season. What do new characters need? Inventory slots and weight. So in other words this game design is a marketing tactic PA has come up with to fill the revenue gap that was left behind by the whales who use to swipe 1-10k dollars a month trying to get PEN gear.

 

This is why when I say PA doesn't care about their game or playerbase they only care about their bank account, this is the reason right here. PA has been introducing scumer and scumer tactics like this slowly over time for past 5 years in order to increase revenue not to improve the game. This is why I don't recommend this game to new players because it cleverly designed gotcha game to it core. 5 dollars to play but before you know it you've spend over 200 dollars on shit other games give you for free by just playing the game.

 

P.S The first season pass gave 32 inventory slots the second gave 8 but could turn in the leafs for more the third and current season only gives 4 an you can't turn in the season item for more. How much do you want to bet the next season pass will give 0-2 inventory slots?

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