What do you want to sell? And more importantly: for how much?

Middle end and end game spots give you only caphrases - not for sell, and black stones - not for sell (needed for caphras) and .... thats all.

Nothing to sell except trash. Yes we have ultra rare 0 lvl acc but ... they are too rare to count. Also let's not forget about the 35% tax in the market which completely kills the sense of sales.

Even if we take into account some remaining loot, it is worth pennies, e.g. part of a compass. Also memory boss parts are not worth to sell because you need memory fragments for durability repair and always memory fragments from memory bosses scrolls worth more than scrolls parts.

In total, almost end game gear in bdo costs 1,5 trillion (1500b) (3x bs pen, fallen pen, labreska pen, deboreka / distortion / tungrad pens). This is unreal money to get. Even if the average player earned 1b a day, he would need 1500 days, i.e. over 4 years of daily and effective grinding! And where is the cost of all the manos?

Conclusion: in bdo you can earn money in many ways, but all of them (except mob trash) are completely ineffective and too low compared to the prices of current end game items. 

Yes, trash today is 10 times more than it used to be, but end game items cost 100 times more.

Grinding 5-10b per item is realistic, grinding 150-200b per item is pointless.

*Shrug*  you missed the point. No point explaining to you bdos "infinite" progression.if you do it without using market which your "scamming" your mental health if you dont have the patience for it.

I havent made any progression in like 3 months because i have done elixirs which make my char stronger than if i got more gains in gear rn.  Not everything is about gear as people like to think it is. Sharp detections(15% crit) and Lethal Assassination(15% back attack) and lethal destruction(2% spec) make a bigger difference when compared to gearing after 710 gs if you normally use frenzies. I have 15k @ party of each for a reason.

Right now pen labreska and fallen god have no use case except bragging since your still going to get one tapped in PVP. Pretty much base it on full pen accessories an tri/tet fallen god an labreska.  For Accessories no comment.

Also

 "Rome wasnt built in a day"

" BDO you wont hit hard cap in a day"

https://youtu.be/KORas9ME_uY

Watch the whole series is my advice.

When you need hundreds of billions, those tens of millions mean nothing.

I do a "sale" every 3-6 months (with VP) so I know how much it gives me, which is ... little.

And this is the sum of all boxes from events, rifts, world bosses, bsa, and dropped accessories.

And that's why I suggested adding new Belongings of an Adventurer II with new accs and adding these accs also to rifts boxes.

I'm patient, but I don't see the point in a pointless grind that doesn't reward me.

And most of all, why am I forced to kill mobs for money?

Life skills items cost the same or even more than those vs mobs. I.e. life skills should also give a comparable income.

And PA keeps raising prices thinking it will solve the problems but it won't for a simple reason: getting these items is so hard that even doubling or tripling the maximum price won't make these items appear on the market, and they don't appear (vide bs pen or manos acc pen).

I dont really trust youtubers, I see on myself how fast I get money with 642 GS daily is max 1,5b I dint have time and will to grind more with this state its impossible for me and other casual players do that.  Around 1 hour on Jade Forest is 500kk in trash + loot, Orc around 560kk/h I get 20k trash per hour, up to 730kk/h depends from RNG and how much seeds and flames I dropped. To reach 700 GS I still need 40 DP and 19 AP. I will buy soon vell heart so 16 left. Caprhas calculator on gamroth told me ai need around more than 70b for caprhas my gear curently I have only duo Labreska helmet, Dim Tree lvl 7 and gloves and boots on lvl 4, 5b more for vell heart, 100b for ogre/laytenn neckle, 120-140b for turo belt, 18b for 2 gamroths hearts, 56b for 2x Distro and 80b for Eye of the ruin ring. Its around 440b to reach 700 GS. With average income 600kk its 700-800h of grind ofc income will be higher by the time but still its sick time gate.

Welcome to a sandbox game with no end game. What that means is that you just continually grind. At first, you can make a lot of gains, then it slows down when you're around the avg gear level of all the other players. At the end, you're spending hundreds of hours for little gains, because there's nothing else to do. There's no point hurrying to the end, as there's no end, just more grinding.

If that's not your kind of game, find something else to play. This is a game, meant to be enjoyable. There's no fault in realizing it's not what you enjoy doing. There are plenty of people that enjoying running around in circles, hitting the same combos for hours at a time.

So I'll explain my situation in the meantime I have low ap (about 259, now I can't remember exactly) so I can't grind in many good areas.. and honestly I've grinded in many places but they make very little money to say enough not to mention the drop non-existent even with active bonus lvl 3.

So I always preferred to do dark rifts but you do little, at best 300 400 thousand a day ... considering that I want to buy all the black star equipment, I have accumulated about 10 million ... but you understand that I need billions for buy it all ...

I don't want to do the mission because it's too long and I didn't quite understand a couple of steps... I prefer to buy them and then increase them.

I don't know, I'm missing something fundamental.

Yes, but in fact I'm a person who is satisfied even with those 300 thousand a day, but I wanted to know an opinion from the experts to increase my earnings.

Thanks for the replies heh I read everyone.

If you have the patience for a little grind every now and then, Mirumok might be a good place to start, trash loot is worth basically the same as Orcs, and mobs die quickly, it's a group area, so if you have someone to grind with you, you can bring 1-2 more players, and all will get loot. 2 useless items, voodoo dolls and spirit stones, but good drops like caphras, ancient spirit dust (mix x5 of these with black stones that also drop there for more caphras), and valtarra belts, if you don't have agris, but have a lot of LS; a yellow grade Loot scroll will go a long way for the trash item loot money gain and still increase your chances for valtarra belts, caphras, ancient spirit dust and black stones. I'd sell the caphras stones until you are full PEN gear and weapons and TRI-TET accessories, then start using the caphras until you are at least C4 on all your armor and weapons, then go for C10. Do not rush it, enjoy the journey, so if you don't feel like grinding, explore the world, do some lifeskilling, some questing, etc. Plenty of stuff in the recommended quests you can give a go to enjoy.

Ok, where is this place on the map I'm going there right away.. but can I hold up with the ap I have? Can you make me a screenshot in the map of where is the place?

It's in "Holo Forest", the 2 rotations I'd advise are the ones near the entrance, coming from Wisdom Tree. It's a 240 AP recommended area. Dodge the red circles, as they deal a lot of damage, and you'll be perfectly fine. The rest is learning the place and rotation and stuff, you know, the usual. If you bring 1 or 2 guildies or something for group, it drops loot for all 3 (3 being max I believe players it'll drop loot for) and you'll all get a good amount of exp.

I don't remember how much DP is recommended but, unless you get hit by the red circles, if it's above 300, should be fine, 350 is safe zone for this area.