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Guardian Class is over powered...
5 avr. 2021, 13:50 (UTC)
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Dernière modification : 8 mai 2021, 21:24 (UTC)
# 11

You'll have way worse things to worry about when the Mystic PvP buffs from Glab come through. All Mystic skills are getting like 30% PvP damage buff and she's getting even more mobility.

 

You'll have way worse things hurting you than guardian. Just wait and see.

 

If guardian doesn't have damage, she has nothing, she's slow, easy to read, predictable. She needs tankyness and damage, it's the whole point of the class.

Dernière modification : 9 mai 2021, 03:06 (UTC)
# 12
On: Apr 27, 2021, 01:37 (UTC), Written by ODB3698

 What class in the game has less mobility than a guardian...maybe an awakened mage?

guardian is like a race car compared to awa mage :)

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Dernière modification : 10 mai 2021, 06:38 (UTC)
# 13
On: Apr 27, 2021, 01:37 (UTC), Written by ODB3698

What class in the game has less mobility than a guardian...maybe an awakened mage?

Shai and succ Nova are pretty slow.

Dernière modification : 12 mai 2021, 17:53 (UTC)
# 14

This whole argument is flawed because you don't even specify if you are referring to awakened guardian or Succession Guardian. They are very different. Succ Guardian needs a buff but has sufferned the nerfs in performance becasue of how Awakened Guardian plays. 

Dernière modification : 12 mai 2021, 20:10 (UTC)
# 15
On: May 12, 2021, 17:53 (UTC), Written by ValHelena

This whole argument is flawed because you don't even specify if you are referring to awakened guardian or Succession Guardian. They are very different. Succ Guardian needs a buff but has sufferned the nerfs in performance becasue of how Awakened Guardian plays. 

I know the feeling...playing awaken wiz where your irrelevant and everyone just runs over you and getting called broken op due and nerfed because succ wiz.

 

I really wish they would make succ and awaken 2 different classes and differentiate then on the forums so its easier to see what needs nerfed and what needs buffed and what is okay.

Dernière modification : 16 mai 2021, 04:27 (UTC)
# 16
On: May 12, 2021, 20:10 (UTC), Written by Stealthe

I know the feeling...playing awaken wiz where your irrelevant and everyone just runs over you and getting called broken op due and nerfed because succ wiz.

 

I really wish they would make succ and awaken 2 different classes and differentiate then on the forums so its easier to see what needs nerfed and what needs buffed and what is okay.

That defeats the point though. People don't bother to note if the Kit causing them issues is Succ or Awakening because they don't care, they lost...entire class needs nerf now. No point in being specific on the details because the people always on the forum asking for nerfs are individuals that don't even know the classes kit...they just know that they lost, and it can't be because they're bad.

 

Guardian is fine, hate how slow the class was so leveled for rewards and that was it. If anything in her kits need changing it's slow stacking. Outside of that, I find her fairly well balanced. 

 

If, and I mean IF you honestly feel she's got too much mobility,  damage or whatever.  Please advise the kit and skills AND most important, suggestions on changes. I feel people quickly ask for nerfs because they fail to understand the concept of roles in BDO and far too often, go charging in and squaring off against hard counters becouse they're just better. Then their ego gets smashed and they take up critiques on the forums with such generally broad bullshit about a class being overtuned with no actual hint in what exactly is the issue...Guardian is a slow attacking, heavy hitter with minimal mobility when compared to actual mobile classes like Ninja and Kuno...Shai really has no place in front line RBF or Node's...so kind of finding it hard to understand how/why you're even asking for nerfs on a ball class you should be nowhere near in the first place. With the logic you just provided in your OP, and comparing to a Shai, EVERY CLASS in the game does more damage and has better mobility.  So WHAT exactly are you referring to? If you're squaring up against a guardian,  and can't even specify in detail what is actually broken, how is PA supposed to fix anything?

 

In closing:  IF YOU CAN'T IDENTIFY THE KIT AND/OR THE SKILLS YOU FEEL ARE OVERPOWERED, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T BE PROVIDING FEEDBACK ON A CLASS OR TOPIC YOU'RE NOT EVEN REMOTELY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT. After making a trial and testing or going to BA and testing against another player with information on gear/build, then please post your feedback, because then and only then, will it be useful to ANYONE. Judging how powerful a class is in openworld combat or rbf with zero knowledge on skills, kits or builds and saying a class is busted, is just a signal flare towards identifying a sinking ego. As it stands,  almost every time someone does one of these completely pointless topics, absolutely no productive conversation is achieved. WHY? Because the individuals typically crying for nerfs haven't even faced the class enough to recognize the kit being used and/or the skill and/or the gear difference...their 530 gs Shai should be able to take on that 680 gs Guardian or the class is busted.

Dernière modification : 6 juin 2021, 09:00 (UTC)
# 17

This Class is by far the most op block class in the game in mass Pvp.

 

She has way too much protected Skills, way too much Dmg, her Aos are way too big and on top of that she has too much iframes and is too tanki.

 

Her Phoenix Skill is one of the biggest jokes she hade, its like a V every 18 sec. (take away the iframe and increase the Cd)

The Shift+F Bon skill is also way too strong. (make this skill static or better give her another Bon skill insteat)

Her Grab is 7 sec. Sa... the next joke. (no Sa or dopple the Cd)

Make her Block 30-40% lees effektiv.

Make her Aos smaller.

Increase the Cd on her iframe skills or take 2 iframes away.

Also take away some Sa or take away the slows on every skill.

 

If this things will happen, than maybe her Dmg can stay as it is.

 

Dernière modification : 6 juin 2021, 08:41 (UTC)
# 18
On: Jun 5, 2021, 22:36 (UTC), Written by Wishmaster

This Class is by far the most op block class in the game.

 

She has way too much protected Skills, way too much Dmg, her Aos are way too big and on top of that she has too much iframes and is too tanki.

 

Her Phoenix Skill is one of the biggest jokes she hade, its like a V every 18 sec. (take away the iframe and increase the Cd)

The Shift+F Bon skill is also way too strong. (make this skill static or better give her another Bon skill insteat)

Her Grab is 7 sec. Sa... the next joke. (no Sa or dopple the Cd)

Make her Block 30-40% lees effektiv.

Make her Aos smaller.

Increase the Cd on her iframe skills or take 2 iframes away.

Also take away some Sa or take away the slows on every skill.

 

If this things will happen, than maybe her Dmg can stay as it is.

 

A warrior complaining about things he doesn't have . nothing new here , maybe you should go practice your class man because if a guardian defeats you , you either got gearchecked hard or you are just bad at your own class.

Dernière modification : 6 juin 2021, 09:30 (UTC)
# 19
The truth hurts I know, but it remains to be seen until PA
does something against her strength in mass Pvp.



        
Dernière modification : 6 juin 2021, 13:34 (UTC)
# 20
On: Jun 6, 2021, 09:30 (UTC), Written by Wishmaster
The truth hurts I know, but it remains to be seen until PA
does something against her strength in mass Pvp.



        

She was designed to be better for mass pvp because of her slow/tactical nature , like some classes have been designed to be fast/huge burst that are better for flanking or 1vs1 . Each class has his own unique traits and downsides , once you see a class as a whole then you can say if it's overpowererd/balanced/bad. If guardian damage is a problem then i suggest you take the new melee dp passive to solve the mass pvp issue .

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