Ive failed 28 times and each attempt costs 11b in crons. im currently almost paid the weapon 3x over. @3670 crons per attempt. It should be lowered to 30. because even at 30. your buying the weapon 3x over.

Amazing, bdo players are starting to wake up and count.

I wrote about the fact that this system is an epic fail almost 3 weeks ago, before it officially appeared in the game, but hardly anyone understood then.

https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/Forum/ForumTopic/Detail?_topicNo=55134&_opinionNo=0

Why 30, when 10 enchantment fails with crons are higher than the price of bs pen (some bs pen can already be bought for 101b).

Conclusion: there should be a 100% chance after the 10th attempt or (a much better solution) the number of crons required for enchent should be reduced by 4 times, only then this system would make sense, because why use the enchantment if it is cheaper to buy it (of course, purchasing it is also impossible because no one will grind 100b per item).

We have to say no to this rude enchantment system. Each player should have true best end game items within a reasonable period of time (no more than a year).

Hey, lets just make it safe pen for reaching lv61 on season char. Failing 10 times is still wayyyyy too much for that ridiculous price. and buying it from marketplace ist just so uncool since it doesnt show my family name when i flex it in world chat.

no sarcasm intended obviously

It's a system designed to prevent you from failing endlessly, it has never been a system supposed to provide you the item at a better price. 

In short, except for some very high end items, you can buy everything on the Central Market. If you want to try your luck and enhance it yourself, you may still end up paying a higher price. But now, you can be sure to get it sooner or later, that's a big improvement.

Only players like Senemedar would try to do some absurd maths and call it "epic fail" when he basically didn't understand the idea. A gamble is a gamble. If you want to be sure to pay a low/medium price, don't gamble.

And seriously, Senemedar... Many players managed to grind for 100b items already. And they're still doing it. 

Gaaaawd this game.

It gets more and more hillarious with the sheer amount of people giving feedback like this and want to get shove all bis endgame items up in their butt.

Read what probability calculus is and look for an online probability calculator.

An enchant with a 3-5% chance gives no chance of success if the cost of 10 attempts exceeds the value of the item.

Probability calculation says clearly at this point: chance that we will achieve an enchant of 3-5% in 10 enchants is... 0%. That's right: ZERO. None of the calculators available on the Internet even gave a result such as 0.0000001%. There just wasn't enough scale.

Therefore, it does not matter that the 40th attempt is guaranteed because its cost is 4 times higher than the value of the item.

We don't want to buy from market, we want to have a real chance to get these items ourselves, and there is simply no such chance.

And what about this? It's their problem that their lives have no value to them.

I will repeat once again: even if an average player obtained 1b every day, it would take him... several years!!! to obtain not even best end game items, e.g. 3 bs pen, 4 fallen god tet and 4 deboreka tet. This is absurd. And add life skills and manos items to this.

I would also like to remind you that the largest number of new players (and returning players) occurred when the Jetina system was added to the game (and seasons with pve only channels, but that's a different topic), while the last major drop was... another increase in the price of crons.

Conclusion: you can't cheat mathematics and economics: either this game will become more player-friendly or it will vegetate and die as soon as a game without systems like those in BDO appears.

And how you gona reakt if someone sends you letter that describes that he dont play the game, but uses online calculator that shows 0 chance. And dont want to obtain the item via market.... And claims basicaly that 2+2 is not 4. And everything he claims is 100%

LMAO

Agree, PA logic is: Grind at high end spots to obtain end game gear but those spots require end game gear, you are stuck with TET bs weapons or duo-tri godr weapons because of this system, some people got pen in 1-5 taps, now with 40 bs / 50 godr attemps for 100% chance is indeed too much imo, 10-15 will be more then sufficient. Then lets look at PEN fallengod 1000 attemps, they put this number just to not get it ever, even with 3000 fs you need more then 150 attemps to get it to PEN.

Wonder how many people enchant bs to PEN and make profit usually cause you'll loose alot of money on MP for how much you need to invest. They need to rework this thats it, who spend alot of hours in this game deserve to get pen weapons at some point and this is to have a better dps grinding for deborekas on dehkia spots.

From PA pov they see 20 people attemting and 1 will get it (assuming 5% with a decent fail stack)) so tehre are always successes. The problem is that some people will one click it, where most will need 20, 30, 40+ attempts; and this is why the system is so broken at the high end.

Saying you get it after 40 is just stupid, it still punishes the unlucky beyond belief. The problem is caused by teh stupid falstack system that gives you so little improvement, the fact that crons don;t even earn you fail stacks, and the stupid cost/number required of crons. Just adjust the numbers and it could be made so much better, without needing this stupid pity system.