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Nightmare mode World Bosses annoyances.
Apr 5, 2021, 22:33 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Apr 5, 2021, 22:33 (UTC)
# 1

Hi everyone, I've been back and playing BDO for a couple of months now. I played around launch and honestly the game back then was a laughibly bad joke. I'm glad to see the game actually evolved to a decent MMORPG. I enjoy most aspects of the game but PvP is still bonkers and horrible but that's another story.

 

I'm questioning the intention and skill of the developers when it comes to the World Bosses. The normal world bosses are too darn easy, the Nightmare modes are insanely badly made. The bosses basically cheat nearly the entire time, telegraphs don't show and one shot everyone, no warning when it comes to animations for the one shot attacks and an entire collection of issues with them. I always see people score one hit and then just stand at the side waiting for people to suicide in and kill it eventually. I'm sorry but what kind of idiot thought this is a case of good game design? At all? I know people claim that doing top damage nets more rewards but honestly I don't believe that at all. I've been at low pop boss kills and know I done loads of damage putting me in the top 5 but the rewards always seem to be the same low tier items.

 

Imo the solution is simple, either remove the NM mode on all the world bosses and integrate the drops in the normal bosses or rework the NM mode bosses so people can actually dodge/survive the one shots by making the visual clues actually appear or make them more announced so we can see them more clearly.

 

I know this has been a problem for a LONG time but I'm mentioning this now because I saw in the upcoming content that they're planning proper dungeons etc. Imagine the bosses in those dungeons being this badly designed like the NM mode world bosses... yeah fun isn't it?

Last Edit : Apr 5, 2021, 22:53 (UTC)
# 2

Some skill dont have visual  telegraph cause its a sound telegraph.

pattern are easy. i do them with my main now without any issue. Just don't turn off the game sound.

The average reward are far higher too. a least minimum 35 million in gold bar vs nothing of normal boss.

I realy like nightmare boss. Don't touch. Personally, I rarely do the normals and always do the nightmares now. More fun. More risk more reward.

You do not like, don't do it.

Last Edit : Apr 6, 2021, 00:32 (UTC)
# 3
On: Apr 5, 2021, 22:53 (UTC), Written by Catastigma

Some skill dont have visual  telegraph cause its a sound telegraph.

pattern are easy. i do them with my main now without any issue. Just don't turn off the game sound.

The average reward are far higher too. a least minimum 35 million in gold bar vs nothing of normal boss.

I realy like nightmare boss. Don't touch. Personally, I rarely do the normals and always do the nightmares now. More fun. More risk more reward.

You do not like, don't do it.

Again with these "challenge lovers" that just want to feed PA with tears

 

 

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Last Edit : Apr 6, 2021, 01:36 (UTC)
# 4
On: Apr 5, 2021, 22:33 (UTC), Written by Meynolt

Hi everyone, I've been back and playing BDO for a couple of months now. I played around launch and honestly the game back then was a laughibly bad joke. I'm glad to see the game actually evolved to a decent MMORPG. I enjoy most aspects of the game but PvP is still bonkers and horrible but that's another story.

 

I'm questioning the intention and skill of the developers when it comes to the World Bosses. The normal world bosses are too darn easy, the Nightmare modes are insanely badly made. The bosses basically cheat nearly the entire time, telegraphs don't show and one shot everyone, no warning when it comes to animations for the one shot attacks and an entire collection of issues with them. I always see people score one hit and then just stand at the side waiting for people to suicide in and kill it eventually. I'm sorry but what kind of idiot thought this is a case of good game design? At all? I know people claim that doing top damage nets more rewards but honestly I don't believe that at all. I've been at low pop boss kills and know I done loads of damage putting me in the top 5 but the rewards always seem to be the same low tier items.

 

Imo the solution is simple, either remove the NM mode on all the world bosses and integrate the drops in the normal bosses or rework the NM mode bosses so people can actually dodge/survive the one shots by making the visual clues actually appear or make them more announced so we can see them more clearly.

 

I know this has been a problem for a LONG time but I'm mentioning this now because I saw in the upcoming content that they're planning proper dungeons etc. Imagine the bosses in those dungeons being this badly designed like the NM mode world bosses... yeah fun isn't it?

You cannot fix something that was never meant to work properly, world bosses are just a pathetic excuse to force people to buy either character expansion coupons to camp them or to p2w for a high tier horse, there are no mechanics other than "hit once and hide behind the pilar", aside from the boss weapon boxes normal bosses are a joke and nightmare bosses have to be fought without gear to avoid crystals breaking since you can get 1 shot easily, even while using in FG skills.

 

Bosses are content with no purpose, they are neither fun nor profitable as most content on this game and that is aside from other features wich only reason to exists is to frustrate the players (like imperial cooking delivery having a channel limit because fuck you), just today i forced myself to login, tried to sell my imperials, everything was sold, loged out and went to play real games. best day ever!.

Last Edit : Apr 6, 2021, 08:49 (UTC)
# 5
On: Apr 5, 2021, 22:53 (UTC), Written by Catastigma

Some skill dont have visual  telegraph cause its a sound telegraph.

pattern are easy. i do them with my main now without any issue. Just don't turn off the game sound.

The average reward are far higher too. a least minimum 35 million in gold bar vs nothing of normal boss.

I realy like nightmare boss. Don't touch. Personally, I rarely do the normals and always do the nightmares now. More fun. More risk more reward.

You do not like, don't do it.

You can get over 200million using your main

Last Edit : Apr 6, 2021, 11:25 (UTC)
# 6

Having fought the "hard mode" bosses a few times each now, it seems that whoever designed them, at best had no idea what they were doing and didn't test their own content, or at worst did it on purpose to get players to burn through Elion's Tears/Blessings.

 

I remember the old forums having posts complaining/critiquing how people would either bring undergeared alts to the bosses, or just hit it a few times and then just stand away and wait for it to die/despawn. Well, these bosses justify that practice, since with all the AoE they spawn and how hard they hit, it's not worth risking one's main with their crystals and EXP dying over and over for rewards that, aside from more gold bars and maybe an extra aura, isn't even worth the trouble of fighting them.

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Last Edit : Apr 6, 2021, 11:30 (UTC)
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I do Kzarka with Oasis gear, Karanda with Narchillia gear, and Nouver with a seasonal outfit.  Once you learn the patterns you don't die.  I haven't had to use anything other than my Fairy rez for months at Nouver.  Karanda, who cares if you die, but if you do the node is within spitting distance.  Kzarka I haven't died since week 2, heck I didn't realize when I reloaded my UI after something broke on it, my fairy was set to use the wrong HP potions for a few weeks.

The only reason I am not in Oasis gear at Nouver is because the spawn node is so far away and it can be one of 3 spots, if the Spawn node was put closer to Nouver I would put the alt back in Oasis gear and put the Seasonal gear at one of the Treasure Grind spots for when I feel like grinding those..  The people that tap once and walk away, are just lazy, they do that on the normal version or nightmare and won't change, they also get a reduced chance at the big tear loot.  

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Last Edit : Apr 6, 2021, 11:34 (UTC)
# 8
On: Apr 6, 2021, 01:35 (UTC), Written by ProjectBBQ

You cannot fix something that was never meant to work properly, world bosses are just a pathetic excuse to force people to buy either character expansion coupons to camp them or to p2w for a high tier horse, there are no mechanics other than "hit once and hide behind the pilar", aside from the boss weapon boxes normal bosses are a joke and nightmare bosses have to be fought without gear to avoid crystals breaking since you can get 1 shot easily, even while using in FG skills.

 

Bosses are content with no purpose, they are neither fun nor profitable as most content on this game and that is aside from other features wich only reason to exists is to frustrate the players (like imperial cooking delivery having a channel limit because fuck you), just today i forced myself to login, tried to sell my imperials, everything was sold, loged out and went to play real games. best day ever!.

 

Umm a new character slot every 50 days is hardly "forcing" someone to P2W character slots, and any horse with Drift and Instant Accel over T6 is fast enough to get to Kzarka in 8 minutes from everywhere oustide the desert.  It's also only 10 minutes to get from Kama to Sand Grain and then a 3 minute walk to Nouver on that same horse.  Just buy one of the many Manos Riding Crops that sit on the market and you'll realize how much faster your horse goes.

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S713
Last Edit : Apr 6, 2021, 12:17 (UTC)
# 9

Still waiting for that video of someone surviving BS nouver/karanda with a melee class while actually hitting it most of the time.

 

Until I see that, all you "suitable challenge" people can go kiss my ass.

 

Last Edit : Apr 6, 2021, 14:59 (UTC)
# 10
On: Apr 6, 2021, 12:17 (UTC), Written by tomgore

Still waiting for that video of someone surviving BS nouver/karanda with a melee class while actually hitting it most of the time.

 

Until I see that, all you "suitable challenge" people can go kiss my ass.

 

Aaaah damn, I love these "prove me wrong" kind of answers.

Make a video of yourself against these NM bosses and we'll tell you what you did wrong. Or don't go there, more room for those who want to take this challenge.

 

As a melee, you have to know your I-frame, how to avoid bodyblock, the pattern. Your problem. 

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