Does Pearl Abyss promoting hate and frustration?
14 ago. 2022, 16:00 (UTC)
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14 ago. 2022, 16:00 (UTC)
# 1
I will keep it simple.
Today i got killed on the beach by a random player.
As a result, my AFK fishing was interrupted and and my fishes lost.
The only gain for the one who killed me, was actually what i have lost.
If this make sense in any way!
Probably he lost some kharma points, which will be replenished by morning i guess.
The kharma points system is a poor joke anyway.
So i lost stuff, he lost stuff.
His frustration activated mine with zero gain on both sides.
Frustration leads to hate.
Hmm, what's the point of all this?
A lot of kids play this game and what they will learn!? That is ok to do harm with no reason and with no gain
just because no one can stop you and the "punishment" is nonexistent?
Put some thoughts on this!
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14 ago. 2022, 16:35 (UTC)
# 2
I agree with Traksee, I also got killed on the beach since i was next to him and my fishes were also lost. And my thought was, why is it even possible ? I don't like PVP never did and I cannot avoid it. Maybe let the ppl, which like it, turn PVP mode on and then they can kill eachother as much as they want. But i like peace and want just to fish or farm. It happend also before to me. I was new and for the first time in Potty cave. I went around with a friend and we tried to get knowledge of all plants and things around there. Till suddenly a guy came and killed us several times. And when we asked him why, he said we bother his farming routine. He didnt even said a word before and also we did not know how things work yet. This really left a very bad impression and can't be good for the community. I also saw often in the chat ppl complaining about getting killed and then they insult eachother in the chat. That cannot be the goal of you guys. So maybe change something as I suggested let player decide if they can get killed by activating the pvp mode. Some sort of settings u can turn on and off as u wish. But maybe also with a cooldown and not that u get killed and the other one turn it fast off and u can't even get your revenge.
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# 3
If this happened at Terrmian Beach, it's because some spots, even within the area,
are combat zones due to the Papu vs Otter quest.
You wonder what children should learn from this?
Well hopefully that only cowards attack the defenseless. Because nothing else are those players.
They fail in real duels and prefer to attack AFK fisherman who cannot defend themselves.
I'm not a PVP player either, but when one attacked me on Terrmian Beach, I fought back.
You can't even imagine how fast the player ran away XD
But you shouldn't mix up this game with the RL. In RL I would recommend you run away or fight back, but ingame?
Laugh about them. My uncle was killed at the Manshaums once, too. He stood up and did his thing no matter how many
times he got killed. The Attacker didn't liked that at all and he really freaked out.
Especially because my uncle answered with a laugh. He wrote to him: I'm honored that you can't keep your hands off me.
The attacker wrote back angrily his guild and he should be destroyed. When my uncle was done with his quest,
he just wrote back: So my darling, unfortunately I have to part with you, my job is done. I hope to see you soon again :* And the moral of the story? The one who was actually there to grind, wasted his time with unnecessary attacks, while
my uncle finished his quest and had a good laugh on top of it. It cost him 5 Elion's Tears, but it was worth it.
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14 ago. 2022, 19:17 (UTC)
# 4
It may happen, be cautious.
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14 ago. 2022, 23:22 (UTC)
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Make sure you read the green text "entering a safe zone" in the top of the screen. That is the exact reason why it´s there. You can easily find a peace zone at the Termian Beach. So as hard as it may sound it´s kinda your own fault that you were standing in a combat zone. This applies for all fishing in the game. I always look to fish inside a peace zone when afk. That´s like rule #1 cause idiots exist (I agree that killing an unflagged afk person is only some ugly basement dwellers pleasure).
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15 ago. 2022, 12:37 (UTC)
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On: Aug 14, 2022, 23:21 (UTC), Written by pal256
Make sure you read the green text "entering a safe zone" in the top of the screen. That is the exact reason why it´s there. You can easily find a peace zone at the Termian Beach. So as hard as it may sound it´s kinda your own fault that you were standing in a combat zone. This applies for all fishing in the game. I always look to fish inside a peace zone when afk. That´s like rule #1 cause idiots exist (I agree that killing an unflagged afk person is only some ugly basement dwellers pleasure).
The point of the thread is that OP got killed at an event zone, a place where there shouldn't be any sliver of PKing allowed anywhere on the beach. PA should have tested against red spots but they clearly didn't. Instead, players can attack from their ship at a distance and kill players even if they are in a safe zone. I was standing there minding my own business in a safe spot and I was knocked down, lost some health but otherwise was fine. However, players who are fishing with fishing gear which hardly has any DP could easily die from that.
I know what you're saying "but you can't attack players in safe spots" well, not necessarily. This game is bugged and people exploit this. Sometimes it hits, sometimes it misses. If you so happen to be in a red spot it's a guaranteed hit. I probably know who killed OP, Loli_Pirate is always doing this and whenever he does, the chat keeps referencing him. He was reported many, many times and yet PA does nothing.
Events are meant to promote the game and get the community together. The problem is that they create a system that can be exploited like this and they'll just jump to another server the moment someone comes after them and repeat the process. I remember how halloween was so awful, they put the event in Marni's zone and everyone could be attacked, even at level 49 because of their lack of hindsight. It always happens and it's not fun. We should be there to relax, it's "summer break" and there are literal guards there patroling but they're there for show.
And last point, you can be in a spot that's safe but 10 seconds later it turns red. You have to wait for the tick and most people will not know this. Again, it's a QA issue and they should have made the entire beach and surrounding water zone within cannonball distance and then some a safe spot. That would be the rational thing to do.
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On: Aug 15, 2022, 12:37 (UTC), Written by Tooshaitopost
The point of the thread is that OP got killed at an event zone, a place where there shouldn't be any sliver of PKing allowed anywhere on the beach. PA should have tested against red spots but they clearly didn't. Instead, players can attack from their ship at a distance and kill players even if they are in a safe zone. I was standing there minding my own business in a safe spot and I was knocked down, lost some health but otherwise was fine. However, players who are fishing with fishing gear which hardly has any DP could easily die from that.
I know what you're saying "but you can't attack players in safe spots" well, not necessarily. This game is bugged and people exploit this. Sometimes it hits, sometimes it misses. If you so happen to be in a red spot it's a guaranteed hit. I probably know who killed OP, Loli_Pirate is always doing this and whenever he does, the chat keeps referencing him. He was reported many, many times and yet PA does nothing.
Events are meant to promote the game and get the community together. The problem is that they create a system that can be exploited like this and they'll just jump to another server the moment someone comes after them and repeat the process. I remember how halloween was so awful, they put the event in Marni's zone and everyone could be attacked, even at level 49 because of their lack of hindsight. It always happens and it's not fun. We should be there to relax, it's "summer break" and there are literal guards there patroling but they're there for show.
And last point, you can be in a spot that's safe but 10 seconds later it turns red. You have to wait for the tick and most people will not know this. Again, it's a QA issue and they should have made the entire beach and surrounding water zone within cannonball distance and then some a safe spot. That would be the rational thing to do.
Exactly my point. This post is more about PA permiting this way of "PVP" to exist in the beggining. Especially in a event area. PVP with no gain, no real purpose, meant just to annoy players during life activities. I wont exclude players behaviour, that is important too. We are all part of this big community in the end.
Anyway, the biggest issue here is that the PA wants me to have fun and spend time and money doing all this life activities and events in a hostile enviorment, where i need to be careful if i am in the red zone. But all this are mutual exclusive and this game seems to be full PVP as long as i can kill anyone, when i want, on 99% of the map. If i can PVP in any PVE zone = PVP. And they dont mention this anywhere.
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15 ago. 2022, 16:41 (UTC)
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On: Aug 15, 2022, 12:37 (UTC), Written by Tooshaitopost
And last point, you can be in a spot that's safe but 10 seconds later it turns red. You have to wait for the tick and most people will not know this. Again, it's a QA issue and they should have made the entire beach and surrounding water zone within cannonball distance and then some a safe spot. That would be the rational thing to do.
As soon as you step in a "dangerous area", your character itself shines red. You may not now the first time... Then you learn.
On: Aug 15, 2022, 14:01 (UTC), Written by Raksi
Exactly my point. This post is more about PA permiting this way of "PVP" to exist in the beggining. Especially in a event area. PVP with no gain, no real purpose, meant just to annoy players during life activities. I wont exclude players behaviour, that is important too. We are all part of this big community in the end.
Anyway, the biggest issue here is that the PA wants me to have fun and spend time and money doing all this life activities and events in a hostile enviorment, where i need to be careful if i am in the red zone. But all this are mutual exclusive and this game seems to be full PVP as long as i can kill anyone, when i want, on 99% of the map. If i can PVP in any PVE zone = PVP. And they dont mention this anywhere.
Well... Simply, be careful of red areas.
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15 ago. 2022, 17:53 (UTC)
# 9
Well, next time go fish in the red zone again. 🤣
Frustration - kinda ok, but hate?! Really? It's a game mate. It's not like you've lost your gear or account. Few fishies, you' ll get over it. It's alright.
I'm a filthy casual me self, my characters are being slaughtered regularly. It's just a game, it's fine.
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15 ago. 2022, 18:04 (UTC)
# 10
well ure definitely not doing that again so uve learned ur lesson
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