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#Guerrero
[Warrior] Enhancement Request: Reckless Blow Improvements
15 ago. 2023, 12:57 (UTC)
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Última modificación : 15 ago. 2023, 18:38 (UTC)
# 31
On: Aug 15, 2023, 18:09 (UTC), Written by Ricktrr

I know its tempting as someone that plays another class, to see a thread like this and say "well what about my class?" and i want to encourage you to make your own post for your own class's perceived deficiencies and obtain support that way. 

Because frankly, this isnt about other classes - this is about Awakening Warrior viability in large scale. If you feel like your class does poorly against Warrior or needs its own help in large scale settings, please, dont pollute a thread asking for enhancements and instead, rally your own class to push for changes that benefit you in a reasonable way.

Except this change you are requesting can only be viewed in the light of other character's pvp capabilities. It's as simple as that.

Última modificación : 15 ago. 2023, 19:07 (UTC)
# 32
On: Aug 15, 2023, 17:12 (UTC), Written by Painelee

You can iframe the grab and the grab is unprotected when you do. No one is going to be sympathetic to you when you can iframe our entire kit then just grj>swirling for a kill. 

If I am prepared and lucky, then yes, I can ifarme the grab. But many times I need to deal some damage too so I can chip away some health, just like you would do, you see? And the problem with that is that performing these damage dealing skills sorceress is often stationary. It's very much possible to grab her, don't tell me otherwise.

GRJ and Swirling for a kill? Take a look at Choice's stream when he was playing sorceress and he was not able to make a dent on others with similar (lower) gear even with the most damaging skills.

And of course no one is going to be sympathetic to me here, most of you are just ignorant, and ignorant to facts.

Última modificación : 15 ago. 2023, 21:03 (UTC)
# 33
On: Aug 15, 2023, 18:38 (UTC), Written by Agoodnickname

Except this change you are requesting can only be viewed in the light of other character's pvp capabilities. It's as simple as that.

you are 100% false. in fact, stating it this way makes it apparent that you dont really have a constructive opnion, just a negative bias towards the warrior class. 

Well, i'd like you to be asured that the feeling is mutual. Sorc is not a fun class to fight and i believe both classes were created with each other in mind.

That being said no, this request cannot only be viewed in the light of other character's pvp capabilities. this requst is being viewed specifically from the perspective of improving Warrior's large scale capability. and viability, honestly.

People didnt like Grab - grab got nerfed from 8sec cd to 15sec - still you whine

People didnt like Grave Digger slow - it got nerfed to 10% for 5sec - still you whine - actually you dont say anything about it bc you know they over nerfed it, Hashashin still has it, you dont dont want to talk about it bc you dont want Warrior to ever get it again

People didnt like Block - so they added block regen shred on corsair and bladers and i think hash has it now too - YOU STILL COMPLAIN.

Sorry but Warrior has paid for its 2017 sins. its time to grow up and move on.  Now. 

Última modificación : 15 ago. 2023, 21:28 (UTC)
# 34

Completely agree with this.

in large scale fights, as warrior once you get in, there is no way out, unless you have v
being able to do skill like reckless without worrying about getting cc-d by someone farting would really help.

Also, for the love of god can we get fix for i-frame
one i-frame that we have, being in middle of animation that 99% of time don't even work
is it to much to ask to be i-frame for full duration of animation, even if that means longer CD in general?

Última modificación : 15 ago. 2023, 21:49 (UTC)
# 35
On: Aug 15, 2023, 19:07 (UTC), Written by Agoodnickname

If I am prepared and lucky, then yes, I can ifarme the grab. But many times I need to deal some damage too so I can chip away some health, just like you would do, you see? And the problem with that is that performing these damage dealing skills sorceress is often stationary. It's very much possible to grab her, don't tell me otherwise.

GRJ and Swirling for a kill? Take a look at Choice's stream when he was playing sorceress and he was not able to make a dent on others with similar (lower) gear even with the most damaging skills.

And of course no one is going to be sympathetic to me here, most of you are just ignorant, and ignorant to facts.

It has a 15 second cool down,. That means you can literally throw protected chip damage at warrior for 15 seconds then bait the grab. If you're just getting bot grabbed every time you fight a warrior, I suggest you memorize the animation and range for the grab. When they miss, you can keep track of it's cooldown in your head. 

So because choice couldn't hurt any players on sorc, that means what? Sounds like a skill issue to me, because I assure you sorc deals plenty of damage against most players and id wager that everyone here has been grj>swirling'ed at some point into the ground. 

Or instead of just complaining to a bunch of warriors that you hate our class and the people who play it, go live in an echo chamber with all sorcs and keep believing that sorc isn't one of the most privileged classes in the game , even with all the new meta cheese they keep releasing.

Última modificación : 15 ago. 2023, 23:14 (UTC)
# 36
On: Aug 15, 2023, 21:03 (UTC), Written by Ricktrr

you are 100% false. in fact, stating it this way makes it apparent that you dont really have a constructive opnion, just a negative bias towards the warrior class. 

Well, i'd like you to be asured that the feeling is mutual. Sorc is not a fun class to fight and i believe both classes were created with each other in mind.

That being said no, this request cannot only be viewed in the light of other character's pvp capabilities. this requst is being viewed specifically from the perspective of improving Warrior's large scale capability. and viability, honestly.

People didnt like Grab - grab got nerfed from 8sec cd to 15sec - still you whine

People didnt like Grave Digger slow - it got nerfed to 10% for 5sec - still you whine - actually you dont say anything about it bc you know they over nerfed it, Hashashin still has it, you dont dont want to talk about it bc you dont want Warrior to ever get it again

People didnt like Block - so they added block regen shred on corsair and bladers and i think hash has it now too - YOU STILL COMPLAIN.

Sorry but Warrior has paid for its 2017 sins. its time to grow up and move on.  Now. 

No. Matter of fact you are 100% wrong. You still can't comprehend the simplest thing. It's not a negative bias, it's that the things that make a class stronger and more viable will make others more helpless. I can't believe I have to explain this.
If grab became so insignificant then I suggest you take a look at some nice warrior pvp clips. Almost every single one of them end with a grab and combo, how about that?
Sorceress got nerfed too many times, they lowered pvp damage of Cartian's with 20% first, and then to -60% pvp damage not long ago.
They lowered Black Wave's pvp damage by 20%, I can't even tell you how many absolutely useless skills are there for sorceress, like Mark of Shadows, Sinister Omen. Ultimately, there are only 3 skills that deal actual damage. I could go on about the history of the character too, but what matters is the present.
You are the one who wants to have an even stronger character, even though warrior is in a very strong spot now. Yes, you are the one who's whining here, I'm just pointing out the errors of your thinking. You go ahead and grow up now, I'm already fine, thank you.

Última modificación : 15 ago. 2023, 22:53 (UTC)
# 37

don't waste yourself responding to a permanent iframed sorcerer throwing a tantrum. it's ridiculous xd 

Última modificación : 15 ago. 2023, 23:09 (UTC)
# 38
On: Aug 15, 2023, 21:49 (UTC), Written by Painelee

It has a 15 second cool down,. That means you can literally throw protected chip damage at warrior for 15 seconds then bait the grab. If you're just getting bot grabbed every time you fight a warrior, I suggest you memorize the animation and range for the grab. When they miss, you can keep track of it's cooldown in your head. 

So because choice couldn't hurt any players on sorc, that means what? Sounds like a skill issue to me, because I assure you sorc deals plenty of damage against most players and id wager that everyone here has been grj>swirling'ed at some point into the ground. 

Or instead of just complaining to a bunch of warriors that you hate our class and the people who play it, go live in an echo chamber with all sorcs and keep believing that sorc isn't one of the most privileged classes in the game , even with all the new meta cheese they keep releasing.

Of course you think it's a skill issue, but let me explain. When people say sorceress can kill with GRJ>Swirling and you see Choice with his hard-capped gear doing that with pathetic results then you know it's not true. It can't be a skill issue when there are only 2 skills to cast. You can't mess up there.
I'm not hating on anything, I'm just pointing out the errors of your thinking. 

Última modificación : 15 ago. 2023, 23:03 (UTC)
# 39
On: Aug 15, 2023, 22:53 (UTC), Written by hellxas

don't waste yourself responding to a permanent iframed sorcerer throwing a tantrum. it's ridiculous xd 

Yes, I was waiting for an empty comment like this. Read the posts and see who is throwing a tantrum. 

Última modificación : 15 ago. 2023, 23:20 (UTC)
# 40

i love the vocal minority sorc player dedicated to shooting down literally every post like their life depended on it to keep warrior from getting a buff. XD. 

anyways, upvotes speak for themselves. Warrior wins again.

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