All Korean games with RNG is about to die in the West and elsewhere
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# 16
On: Jan 12, 2024, 16:40 (UTC), Written by Draekoras
With the recent finding by the Korean FTA about illegal practices of lying and RNG % manipulation into Nexon (Maplestory) and how they are dynamically changing RNG at any point in the game based on different factors, who is to say that a game like BDO, which is heavily RNG monetized, is not also doing the same shady practices?
I mean this week, after gathering and grind 40b in game, I tried to RNG enhance my TET Tungard by buying up to 5 TET Tungard with a 240+ stack and failed all attempts. I thought this was normal and I was frustrated by this RNG crap but hey I figured it was just bad luck and I would try again after again grinding silver and maybe next time I would have a better chance.
BUT NOW after this report of RNG manipulation in a game like Maplestory by Nexon and possibly in their other games as well and with other Korean game companies like Pearl Abyss, etc... I have just lost all confidence of "fairness" with any Korean games that have RNG in it and I am almost completely done with Korean games with RNG in them. I would like Pearl Abyss to step up and verify with the Korean FTA that they are not also complicit in these shady practices.
From a VERY concerned player.
Clearly you don't understand what the entire situation is. They would increase the chance to get that "cool new card" from the boxes until obtained once, then once obtained the generator would greatly reduce the chance to get the new card. Because you needed 5, 8, or 15 cards depending on game until maxed all pulls until the final one were useless. The lowering of chance to get the special final card is what the problem was. BDO has very few "gatcha" box type items, and those "GATCHA" boxes don't even qualify to begin with due to how they work.
Also, there is not a single MMO out there without RNG of somesort, it just matters where the RNG is. I much prefer the RNG of BDO where once obtaining the final item it's all identical where in other games the RNG is on the stats so even if you get that special super BIS item it might be trash because the DEX rolled min at 120 instead of the cap of 150, making it worse than the item that is 3 gear qualities below that one.
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# 17
On: Jan 12, 2024, 17:12 (UTC), Written by Draekoras
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Who is to say Pearl Abyss who has a very HEAVILY MONETIZED RNG system in the game is not also doing the same illegal practice?
What I'm asking is for Pearl Abyss to come out with some hard evidence that they are NOT doing the same illegal shit that Nexon has been participating in. I am pretty sure that if Nexon (one of the biggest Korean game companies) are doing it, other Korean developers/gaming companies are also doing it.
BDO doesn't have a "heavily monetized RNG" system. You are starting from a false premise to begin with, then using bad data from there.
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12 ene. 2024, 21:49 (UTC)
# 18
On: Jan 12, 2024, 18:32 (UTC), Written by Draekoras
Again you miss the point. I don't buy cash shop items either accept the occassional Value Pack to support this game I play (sort of like a subscription cost).
But since I DO spend TIME in this game grinding away to buy items from the marketplace, such as the example I already gave with 5 TET Tugard Necklaces I tried to enhance to PEN, I EXPECT at the least that the percentage chance that the game is telling me to be FIXED and at that percentage and definitley NOT DYNAMIC. Therefore, IF now I find that all my grinding in this game to try to PEN enhance my Tungard Necklace is a farce because the % chance of doing so can DYNAMICALLY CHANGE depending on other factors in this game such as how much money I actually spend in the Cash Shop at any given time, than that is PURE BULLSHIT and it is even worse than P2W mechanics.
YOU may be having fun now but later on when you try to achieve a GOAL in this game like trying to get full PEN accessories and you find that you grind 100B silver let's say for example and you FAIL at evey enhancement attempt and then you find out that Korean companies are LYING to you about the chances of that enhancement than it changes the RULE of the game and robs that person of the time they spent thinking that you are having a legit chance at that enhancement given by the game. BECAUSE IT BECOMES A LIE. IE, what happened in a game like Maplestory with Nexon. So yes, IT DOES MATTER to people who are not using the cash shop but still playing this game with end game goals.
People who lack the means or the drive to spend large amounts of money yet play RNG Gear to Progress Grinder MMOs with the goal of reaching endgame are indeed fascinating creatures.
I believe my appoarch to such games are more rational. Basically, realizing that the game in question is out to make money off of a few people spending massive amounts of money to bypass more than 2k hours of grind in under 50 hours. By buying enough spins at the corrupted bais gear enhancement slot machines, to brute force to endgame. And make the ultimate decision to not chase endgame.
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12 ene. 2024, 21:46 (UTC)
# 19
On: Jan 12, 2024, 17:28 (UTC), Written by EgoAdAstra
I have a challenge for all who read this. For the next 3 months just pay attention to everyone in your guild. You will notice how some people are infamously favored to succeed enhancements. While others are just completely SoL when it comes to enhancement.
I legit watched someone from my old guild at around the release of Manos. Successfully enhance 17 out of 20 TET Manos accessories, got 7 Vells Hearts, and 4 Garmoth Hearts. All in a 30 day period, they was so innately blessed that when they finally failed 2 times back to back, they asked us "Is failing so normal in this game?" Not even 2 weeks later they never logged into BDO again.
Had another person in the last guild I was in total 12 Garmoth heart drops and like 6 Vells heart drops.
Had another person failed a TET Urugons attempt with a 293 FS. And went on to fail everything else.
It's pretty much blatantly clear to anyone actually paying attention that the enhancement chances are not only dynamic, but is also based off a percentage of a percentage so that "Plausible Denibility" clause can be levage. There is a reason why this company relentlessly attack anybody who datamines their game.
Games like this should be monitored by an agency like casinos, because they use the same tactics if the casinos could get away with it.
Gonna call BS on this one. The edge cases sound like exaggerations to me. 1 TET Fail on a 293 stack isn't out of the realm of RNG, because even at 293 Tet has a sub 50% success rate. The rest of your claims seems to be flat out lies. 12 Garmoth Hearts and 6 Vell Hearts? That sounds just as implausable as the guy who spent 5,000 hours grinding the compass "before getting the drop", because no he didn't 5,000 hours is 3 1/2 years grinding 4 hours a day, and using 5,000 loot scrolls. People lie all the time about their RNG, or the perceived RNG of others.
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12 ene. 2024, 21:53 (UTC)
# 20
Enhancing accessories has always been a high risk where it would be cheaper to save silver and buy it later..
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