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#Mística #Guardiana #Corsaria #Drakania
Mystic & Banha Lore/Connection, Dragons, & Water Abilities
28 feb. 2024, 17:37 (UTC)
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Última modificación : 11 mar. 2024, 07:04 (UTC)
# 1

Should Mystic have faster swim speed similar to Corsair? I would think she'd have similar capabilities in the water seeing as she's bound to a Mythical Sea Dragon. But maybe instead of transforming, Banha could show up to give her a ride which would allow Mystic to better traverse the waters. He could appear automatically when you enter the water. Have her ride Banha or grab ahold and hang on to him and have him guide her through the waters. Act as a sort of underwater mount. Maybe it could be for awakening specialization only. He kind of acts as a guardian to Mystic so it'd make sense. After all he saved her from drowning before. I would think she'd have unlimited breath in the water too and possibly unlimited stamina (which I still think Corsair should aslo have due to her being a mermaid). If she did have a transformation ability (underwater only) it'd be cool to have a serpentine tail as opposed to a fish tail that mermaids and sirens have (still waiting to have an actual fishtail option for Corsair). Which would enable her to move swiftly in the water. Similar in appearance to Lamia.  Which would be really neat to customize! Maybe add in some Water/Sea Dragon type customization options for her. Or at least give dragon customization options to Drakania and Guardian (seeing as how they were created by dragons and are considered as such). It'd be really cool if all three classes had dragon customization options which matched the class (gold horn, wing, and tail options for Guardian. Black horn, tail, and wing option for Drakania. Sea Dragon type customization for Mystic. Fin like ears, horns similar to Banha, and serpetine tail in the water). Again, all would be optional. I also wish her awakened skills were flashier. They're rather lackluster in my opinion. Corsair's water abilities has her beat. For a mystic she doesn't feel very mystical. Her visuals could use an update.

Also I'm curious, is her dragon different from the other dragons encountered in the game? Is she the same as Guardian and Drakania due to her bond with Banha? Or different? Does her bond with Banha make her immortal or close to it? Does she feel a connection to other dragons because of her bond with Banha along with feeling drawn to the sea similar to Corsair?  I'd love it if they explored the bond between Mystic and Banha. Why did Banha choose her? What makes her special? It'd be neat if they'd explore the lore of dragons in this game in general. Especially in regard to Mystic, Drakania, and Guardian. Do you think we'll get a male dragon class at some point?

Also, do you think Mystic and Maegu should be able to mount Banha and their fox summon similar to Tamer's Heilang? At the very least Mystic should be able to ride Banha in the water. I'd actually like it if they redid Mystic and Striker's story. From Mystic's perspective, it's too much like Twilight for my taste. I'd like if they re-examined her relationship or bond with Banha and expand on it and focus more on that. Rather than her obsession with Striker. Striker's story isn't that much better in my opinion. I don't know, what do you all think?

I've just completed the Land of Morning Light: Imoogi quest on my Mystic and it intrigued me. Lee (Dolswe) mentions Banha by name to Mystic. He apparently knows of your connection. Will Mystic have a unique quest or dialogue in the Land of Morning Light Pt. 2? It would be an excellent opportunity to delve deeper into the lore surrounding Banha as well as the Divine Dragons of Creation in general. If you agree here's a link to my thread on this topic: Overhaul Mystic & Banha Lore

 

Última modificación : 28 feb. 2024, 22:18 (UTC)
# 2
On: Feb 28, 2024, 17:37 (UTC), Written by Nissa

Should Mystic have faster swim speed similar to Corsair? I would think she'd have similar capabilities in the water seeing as she's bound to a Mythical Sea Dragon. But maybe instead of transforming, Banha could show up to give her a ride which would allow Mystic to better traverse the waters. He could appear automatically when you enter the water. Have her ride Banha or grab ahold and hang on to him and have him guide her through the waters. Act as a sort of underwater mount. Maybe it could be for awakening specialization only. He kind of acts as a guardian to Mystic so it'd make sense. After all he saved her from drowning before. I would think she'd have unlimited breath in the water too and possibly unlimited stamina (which I still think Corsair should aslo have due to her being a mermaid). If she did have a transformation ability (underwater only) it'd be cool to have a serpentine tail as opposed to a fish tail that mermaids and sirens have (still waiting to have an actual fishtail option for Corsair). Which would enable her to move swiftly in the water. Similar in appearance to Lamia.  Which would be really neat to customize! Maybe add in some Water/Sea Dragon type customization options for her. Or at least give dragon customization options to Drakania and Guardian (seeing as how they were created by dragons and are considered as such). It'd be really cool if all three classes had dragon customization options which matched the class (gold horn, wing, and tail options for Guardian. Black horn, tail, and wing option for Drakania. Sea Dragon type customization for Mystic. Fin like ears, horns similar to Banha, and serpetine tail in the water). Again, all would be optional.

Also I'm curious, is her dragon different from the other dragons encountered in the game? Is she the same as Guardian and Drakania due to her bond with Banha? Or different? Does her bond with Banha make her immortal or close to it? Does she feel a connection to other dragons because of her bond with Banha along with feeling drawn to the sea similar to Corsair?  I'd love it if they explored the bond between Mystic and Banha. Why did Banha choose her? What makes her special? It'd be neat if they'd explore the lore of dragons in this game in general. Especially in regard to Mystic, Drakania, and Guardian. Do you think we'll get a male dragon class at some point?

 

It does infact make her potentially immortal as his soul merged with her. Which means they are now one in the same and he, himself is one with her. That said I think they should take it a step further and when Mystic is in the water as awakening she should turn into Banha or at least a visage of him and swim faster. 

Now she isn't like Drakkania (Who is a litteral dragon) or Guardian (Given the Ynix flame my Labreska and chosen as Labreska's champion) As Banha chose her to be his actual living embodiment and basically blessed her. The dragons in Land of the Morning light are not like those of the main contienent and likely didn't particapate in the dragon vs gods conflict, nor even really knew what was going on. From how it sounds they are peaceful creatures mostly who will fight when nessacary but are not the war conflict driven tyrants that the ancient dragons were.  There is an argument to be made that the dragons were the best thing for our world as they did keep Hadum (god of despair, death and darkness) at bay but also kept other gods out as well. 

Markthanan is litterally holding back a mountains worth of black spirits, on his own. Single handedly protecting the world from what could be a cataclsmic event if they get free. Garmoth was driven made in her defeat, labreska was betrayed and killed while Drakkania was imprisoned due to this. She is also the one who technically slew Labreska. 

Guardian was the result which is why Drakkania and  Guardians are nemeies in the lore; Banha never particapated in much (As far as we know) until Mystic was dying. Now he is technically on the side of life and creation, likely playing a major role in the worlds development and I hope he will feautre heavily in the land of the morning light PT2 to close off her and strikers story, as there hasn't been a resolution to that in lore yet. Nor to who or what Banha was or is and why it chose to save her outside of it feeling it was nessacary for them both.

Última modificación : 28 feb. 2024, 22:45 (UTC)
# 3

Oh, wow! Thanks for the info! I just find that stuff really cool! Yeah I hope they expand on Mystic and Striker to give some sort of 'closure' to their story in Land of Morning Light p2. After all it was said "The blue eyes, whos fate entwined, will meet again in Banha's tears." I love the mythical fantasy part of this game. I just wish they implemented it better by making it easier to understand and flesh it out. As well as having a larger part in the game. Because a lot of people don't know the lore due to spamming 'R.' I feel if it was better implemented and they went deeper with it, people wouldn't want to spam 'R' so much. On top of that, that shouldn't be the only way to learn the lore of the game. I agree that it'd be really cool if she transformed into Banha in the water. I just think there's a lot of wasted potential with Mystic. With a lot of the classes actually. I'd love it if they took their time to really explore each classes story and expand on them. Make all of the classes really unique and stand apart from each other and not be afraid to delve into the fantasy side of things. It'd make it feel less generic. There's so much they could do yet.

Última modificación : 29 feb. 2024, 11:18 (UTC)
# 4
On: Feb 28, 2024, 22:18 (UTC), Written by Thornwolf

It does infact make her potentially immortal as his soul merged with her. Which means they are now one in the same and he, himself is one with her. That said I think they should take it a step further and when Mystic is in the water as awakening she should turn into Banha or at least a visage of him and swim faster. 

Now she isn't like Drakkania (Who is a litteral dragon) or Guardian (Given the Ynix flame my Labreska and chosen as Labreska's champion) As Banha chose her to be his actual living embodiment and basically blessed her. The dragons in Land of the Morning light are not like those of the main contienent and likely didn't particapate in the dragon vs gods conflict, nor even really knew what was going on. From how it sounds they are peaceful creatures mostly who will fight when nessacary but are not the war conflict driven tyrants that the ancient dragons were.  There is an argument to be made that the dragons were the best thing for our world as they did keep Hadum (god of despair, death and darkness) at bay but also kept other gods out as well. 

Markthanan is litterally holding back a mountains worth of black spirits, on his own. Single handedly protecting the world from what could be a cataclsmic event if they get free. Garmoth was driven made in her defeat, labreska was betrayed and killed while Drakkania was imprisoned due to this. She is also the one who technically slew Labreska. 

Guardian was the result which is why Drakkania and  Guardians are nemeies in the lore; Banha never particapated in much (As far as we know) until Mystic was dying. Now he is technically on the side of life and creation, likely playing a major role in the worlds development and I hope he will feautre heavily in the land of the morning light PT2 to close off her and strikers story, as there hasn't been a resolution to that in lore yet. Nor to who or what Banha was or is and why it chose to save her outside of it feeling it was nessacary for them both.

Banha appears as a serpent dragon, but is more of a spirit. It describes itself as the "essence of the ocean," and its soul is not fused with Mystic. It says during the questline that a small part of its power resides within her and that's how it could contact her to find and liberate it from the shipwreck. After that, it decides to teach Mystic how to use that part of its (Banha's) power.

I don't know where you got that information about "LotML dragons," because there are none. The only two "dragons" mentioned are 1. Banha, which is less a dragon and more a spirit, and 2. the Azure Dragon of real life Far Eastern myth, which many people outside the game confuse with Banha, but they are written in different ways in Korean. Nothing is said about any other LotML dragon or dragon-like being, or about how they are or behave. Nothing is said about Banha being on team life and creation, either. The story Mystic hears just before her shipwreck is a rumor shared by sailors, not a statement about 3 dragons actually creating the world and Banha being one of them. Mystic believes in the story and believes Banha is one of them.

There was no "dragons vs gods" conflict. It was only Labreska, once she had the Ynix, challenging the gods (and losing). The rest of dragonkind lived in fear and hidden from Labreska in the shadow of the Golden Mountain (Mountain of Eternal Winter).

I also do not know where you got the part about dragons keeping Hadum and other deities out, as I believe nothing of the sort is ever mentioned. Labreska, in possession of the Ynix, something a legend says was created by the gods to kill Kzarka (again, a legend, the truth may be different), attempted to challenge those same gods, and failed. We do not know who those "gods" were, if they were really gods, or if they're still around or not.

No idea where the part about Markthanan keeping a mountain's worth of black spirits at bay comes from, either. Markthanan is not protecting anyone from anything, much less the world. He's basically a sentient eye buried under a mountain, waiting for death now that his plan of getting enough black stones to recover his body failed (his body was eaten by the murrowaks, as explained in the main questline). If you go through it with Drakania it specifies all that is left is just the eye (I guess part of the head as well?).

Garmoth did not go mad from her defeat. She was a follower of Markthanan a hundred years ago, was defeated, recovered from her injuries for decades, and now was back to her initial mission of continuing the war against Drieghan as it happened a hundred years ago during the Great Battle. The only bit about her being mad is the black spirit telling us if we play Drakania that Garmoth consumed too many black stones and drunk with power did not recognize Drakania during the encounter.

Labreska was not betrayed. She felt betrayed, fueled by the whispers of the black spirit of origin. In truth, Silverfrond intended to return Ynix to her, but was ambushed by the Drakania and killed. The Knights of Dawn then took Ynix and fled. Drakania was not imprisoned for any of this. The one who "slew" Labreska was herself. She died from grief due to being overwhelmed by the black spirit of origin.

The Drakania and Guardians are enemies in the story because one (Drakania) wants to get Ynix and destroy it so that nothing related to Labreska ever surfaces again, and the other (Guardian) wants to get Ynix to kill the gods who first killed Labreska. Basically, Drakania is on team Markthanan while Guardian is on team Labreska. In truth, Guardian is unknowingly on team black spirit of origin, as this one brainwashed all Guardians when they were born with lies to get Ynix for it.

Última modificación : 29 feb. 2024, 19:27 (UTC)
# 5
On: Feb 29, 2024, 11:15 (UTC), Written by Whitrix

Banha appears as a serpent dragon, but is more of a spirit. It describes itself as the "essence of the ocean," and its soul is not fused with Mystic. It says during the questline that a small part of its power resides within her and that's how it could contact her to find and liberate it from the shipwreck. After that, it decides to teach Mystic how to use that part of its (Banha's) power.

I don't know where you got that information about "LotML dragons," because there are none. The only two "dragons" mentioned are 1. Banha, which is less a dragon and more a spirit, and 2. the Azure Dragon of real life Far Eastern myth, which many people outside the game confuse with Banha, but they are written in different ways in Korean. Nothing is said about any other LotML dragon or dragon-like being, or about how they are or behave. Nothing is said about Banha being on team life and creation, either. The story Mystic hears just before her shipwreck is a rumor shared by sailors, not a statement about 3 dragons actually creating the world and Banha being one of them. Mystic believes in the story and believes Banha is one of them.

There was no "dragons vs gods" conflict. It was only Labreska, once she had the Ynix, challenging the gods (and losing). The rest of dragonkind lived in fear and hidden from Labreska in the shadow of the Golden Mountain (Mountain of Eternal Winter).

I also do not know where you got the part about dragons keeping Hadum and other deities out, as I believe nothing of the sort is ever mentioned. Labreska, in possession of the Ynix, something a legend says was created by the gods to kill Kzarka (again, a legend, the truth may be different), attempted to challenge those same gods, and failed. We do not know who those "gods" were, if they were really gods, or if they're still around or not.

No idea where the part about Markthanan keeping a mountain's worth of black spirits at bay comes from, either. Markthanan is not protecting anyone from anything, much less the world. He's basically a sentient eye buried under a mountain, waiting for death now that his plan of getting enough black stones to recover his body failed (his body was eaten by the murrowaks, as explained in the main questline). If you go through it with Drakania it specifies all that is left is just the eye (I guess part of the head as well?).

Garmoth did not go mad from her defeat. She was a follower of Markthanan a hundred years ago, was defeated, recovered from her injuries for decades, and now was back to her initial mission of continuing the war against Drieghan as it happened a hundred years ago during the Great Battle. The only bit about her being mad is the black spirit telling us if we play Drakania that Garmoth consumed too many black stones and drunk with power did not recognize Drakania during the encounter.

Labreska was not betrayed. She felt betrayed, fueled by the whispers of the black spirit of origin. In truth, Silverfrond intended to return Ynix to her, but was ambushed by the Drakania and killed. The Knights of Dawn then took Ynix and fled. Drakania was not imprisoned for any of this. The one who "slew" Labreska was herself. She died from grief due to being overwhelmed by the black spirit of origin.

The Drakania and Guardians are enemies in the story because one (Drakania) wants to get Ynix and destroy it so that nothing related to Labreska ever surfaces again, and the other (Guardian) wants to get Ynix to kill the gods who first killed Labreska. Basically, Drakania is on team Markthanan while Guardian is on team Labreska. In truth, Guardian is unknowingly on team black spirit of origin, as this one brainwashed all Guardians when they were born with lies to get Ynix for it.

Really cool! I wonder if they'll continue the story with Drakania and Guardian. They sound like the most interesting classes. Wish they would have put that much effort in the other ones. I wonder if Drakania will ever complete her mission and bring back the 'Paradise of Dragons.' Or if Guardian will realize she's being used. As for Mystic, Banha is still a dragon. Just a totally different kind. As you said, more a spirit. Banha is based off of the Eastern Divine Dragons, whereas the others in this game are based off of European Lore. Which is why they're so different from each other. The dragons such as Garmoth, Labreska, and Markthanan are based off of the West, so are more aggressive, power hungry, and chaotic. Banha being based off of the East, is more of a divine or celestial being that's seen as wise and benevolent. Whether or not Banha was one of the 'Dragons of Creation' is unknown. Or if that is really how the world of Black Desert came to be. I think it's open for interpretation. Again, I wish they'd expand on the lore a bit more and make it a bit easier to understand as it can be really confusing and hard to follow. I'd like them to expand a bit on Mystic, Drakania, and Guardian as I feel there's more story yet to be told with them. As well as clarify some things regarding them and their lore. It'd also be neat to see more dragons like Banha and Imoogi. Heck, I'd just like to see more dragons in general. =)

Última modificación : 11 mar. 2024, 04:30 (UTC)
# 6

Possible Land of Morning Light SPOILERS:

I also wonder if Mystic is going to have a part to play because Lee (Dolswe) mentions Banha. Which is interesting because he doesn't do that with every class it seems. He only has special dialogue with Mystic, Tamer, Woosa, and Maegu. The twins due to them being Land of Morning Light royalty as well as their respective Do schools. Tamer, he mentions her master, the island she was raised on, Heilang, and Baeklang. So it makes me wonder if those classes will play a part in LOML Pt 2. How did he know about all of that, especially about Banha? Do you think they will explore the lore surrounding Banha as well as the Dragons of Creation? Because that would be EPIC!

Última modificación : 21 mar. 2024, 14:21 (UTC)
# 7
On: Mar 11, 2024, 04:30 (UTC), Written by Nissa

Possible Land of Morning Light SPOILERS:

I also wonder if Mystic is going to have a part to play because Lee (Dolswe) mentions Banha. Which is interesting because he doesn't do that with every class it seems. He only has special dialogue with Mystic, Tamer, Woosa, and Maegu. The twins due to them being Land of Morning Light royalty as well as their respective Do schools. Tamer, he mentions her master, the island she was raised on, Heilang, and Baeklang. So it makes me wonder if those classes will play a part in LOML Pt 2. How did he know about all of that, especially about Banha? Do you think they will explore the lore surrounding Banha as well as the Dragons of Creation? Because that would be EPIC!

Maybe, might also be when a rework for her and striker roll around as well. I wouldn't honestly be surprised given how things have been going lately~

Última modificación : 21 mar. 2024, 18:52 (UTC)
# 8
On: Mar 21, 2024, 14:21 (UTC), Written by Thornwolf

Maybe, might also be when a rework for her and striker roll around as well. I wouldn't honestly be surprised given how things have been going lately~

Like it'd be really cool if Banha was Mystic's father. Like how Markthanan is Drakania's father. Would make sense why he chose her and protected her. It'd be neat if she was considered a sea dragon. Then we'd have a Western dragon character (Drakania) and an Eastern dragon character (Mystic). Since Banha calls himself the essence of the sea, that'd make her the daughter of the sea. Which would open up a bunch of creative options they could do for her. Story-wise and character creation wise. And possibly new effects for her skills. Something more fitting for the name Mystic. Change her from a generic martial arts class to something more mystical. I also wish her dragon effects weren't just limited to her awakening. 

Banha is just used as a lore friendly reason as to why her awakened skills have water effects. Boring. I wish they'd re-work her story completely especially with Banha and expand on it. Give them a deeper connection. Than some guy (possibly Banha in disguise) dropping a gem into her pocket. Mystic becoming obsessed with Striker and following him across the sea. Getting in a shipwreck, the gem glows and Banha talks to her and tells her about how the world was created (supposedly), saves her, then gives her some of his power...for reasons that are never clear...

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