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Dear PA ... the endgame!
31 mar. 2024, 14:22 (UTC)
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Última modificación : 31 mar. 2024, 14:22 (UTC)
# 1

Dear Pearl Abyss, 

  

I hope you're doing well. I want to start by saying how much I love Black Desert Online. It's hands down the best MMO out there, especially when it comes to combat. But there's something that's been bothering me and thats the reality of the endgame grind.  

  

The grind for Deboreka accessories is just brutal. Take Dekhia Ash Forest, for example. It's boring, dangerous, and dying there can be a nightmare because you might lose your valuable crystals. Losing crystals does not add any fun to the game, especially not with the current prices going all the way to 4.8b. And let's not forget about the fact that these spots are bad trash silver wise. So even if we do get something good, most of us choose to enhance it rather than sell it so where still forced to grind somewhere else so we can save for cron stones. 

  

And then there are places like Dekhia Hystria and Aakman where we can't even bring our horses, what is pushing ppl to buy maids just to make these spots grindable. 

Honestly, I'm at a point where I'm not sure why I'm still doing this since most of the content is capped anyway. I get that endgame should be challenging, but it shouldn't be discouraging. And it is here where you make a mistake, making something challenging doesn't necessarily need be discouraging, yet it is in BDO. And to top it all off, there is RNG. Some ppl do put the hours in, yet they get fucked by bad RNG. That doesnt feel very fair. In short, if you're wondering why people are quitting the game, this is probably why. End game is a never-ending cycle of disappointment. Endgame can be hard, thats why its endgame but please keep it fun.

  

Some things i would change or add. 

 

Allow horses in Aakman and Hystria 

This would be huge and would allow more ppl to grind those places 

Also add more spots at aakman and hystria for ppl to grind  

 

Remove crystal loss 

I don’t understand the idea behind this, yes it adds consequence and danger to a spot. Yet only making 500 mil/hour without drops but losing a 4.8 on a Girin or 1.6 on a Rebelious adds everything but fun. I lost one only a week ago bc of a disconnect for example, so its not even or own mistake sometimes. The crystal loss is also a very discouraging way to test out new spots. 

 

Remove the initial 20 fuel cost from the Dekhia Lantern

DFS is still a thing in 2024, getting griefed aswell. If i need to duel for spot i need to stay close to the actuall spot what causes alot of problems like dying or not being able to chase my target otherwise the lantern will shut off, if i lose i lose twice needing to pay again. If i get griefed i need to fight back or change server and need to pay that inital 20 fuel again.

 

Make tagging free   

For the love of god please just add this feature. As stated before the combat is amazing, allow us to taste and freely tagg every class. The grind is already long enough and being able to play different classes is one way to keep it fun.  

 

Make things less RNG and more reward for effort 

Effort schould be rewarded, i know guys who got 11 vells or one tap stuff yet never grind. And then you have ppl who make the effort but only get rewared with bad RNG. Its like having a job and the ppl that never show up or do anything get a paycheck, but the ppl who work there ass off get nothing. Makes no sense.  

 

Remove downgrade off acc and lower the cost of crons  

The moment you get that TET or PEN is amazing and that schould stay, yet to what degree? I understand you guys are a company and need to make money, one way to do so was to increase the cron stone cost so ppl would buy more costumes. But i think this is way to much. The costs for enhancing gear is insane, trying Tet debo’s costs around 7 billion silver per attempt, and going for Pen is a whopping 30 billion per try. Considering we make around 1.2 billion silver per hour, it takes about 6 hours just to try for Tet and over 25 hours for Pen, not to mention the potential downgrade from enhancing. Buying pearls to get costumes for enhancing is even more nuts. Trying for Tet costs about €90, and going for Pen is around €360 per attempt. This is waaaaay over the top, and were only talking about attempts, no guarantees ...

 

Make ranked AoS perma 

No idea why this is event based. I think BDO is the only game that does this. Many of us, if not everyone would like the option to play ranked.  

BDO feels more and more like a PvE game, i love the PvE (excluding the game features mentioned above) but i don't see the problem in adding more PvP content and certainly not of a perma Ranked AoS feature.

Outro

I did not write this to shit on the game, i just start to feel less intrested the more my journey continues bc of bad game mechanics.

I hope you guys change some things around to make/keep it fun for everyone.  It's ok to want to make money, to challenge ppl, to demand some degree of effort to get to endgame, just don't push it. If a game is fun, ppl will go the extra mile, if you add bad game mechanics ppl will lose intrest. 

 

Gr. 

M 

Última modificación : 31 mar. 2024, 16:09 (UTC)
# 2

Honestly man, I feel you, its like we're all living the same life when it comes to BDO, especially with the fact that endgame grind is extremely discouraging, not to mention the fact that the entire game is CAPPED. The problem is BDO feels like a job rather than a game, you dont like clocking into work, but you know you have to otherwise you don't get paid & if you don't get paid you have no money, & if you have no money then sht sucks. I will keep advocating for AT LEAST an uncapped server in GLabs & then they can make adjustments to the money values or whatever, because the combat is absolutely beautiful & I wouldn't mind grinding circles if I actually felt powerful doing it. Especially when I've put the time and effort into increasing my AP as much as possible*sigh*

Última modificación : 31 mar. 2024, 21:04 (UTC)
# 3

i decided no to do debo grind, PA will make it easier at some point why should i waste my time now? I rather just take 1 year break, maybe jetina will have  pen debo :/

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Adonaj
Última modificación : 01 abr. 2024, 09:30 (UTC)
# 4
On: Mar 31, 2024, 14:22 (UTC), Written by Soratoji

Dear Pearl Abyss, 

  

I hope you're doing well. I want to start by saying how much I love Black Desert Online. It's hands down the best MMO out there, especially when it comes to combat. But there's something that's been bothering me and thats the reality of the endgame grind.  

  

The grind for Deboreka accessories is just brutal. Take Dekhia Ash Forest, for example. It's boring, dangerous, and dying there can be a nightmare because you might lose your valuable crystals. Losing crystals does not add any fun to the game, especially not with the current prices going all the way to 4.8b. And let's not forget about the fact that these spots are bad trash silver wise. So even if we do get something good, most of us choose to enhance it rather than sell it so where still forced to grind somewhere else so we can save for cron stones. 

  

And then there are places like Dekhia Hystria and Aakman where we can't even bring our horses, what is pushing ppl to buy maids just to make these spots grindable. 

Honestly, I'm at a point where I'm not sure why I'm still doing this since most of the content is capped anyway. I get that endgame should be challenging, but it shouldn't be discouraging. And it is here where you make a mistake, making something challenging doesn't necessarily need be discouraging, yet it is in BDO. And to top it all off, there is RNG. Some ppl do put the hours in, yet they get fucked by bad RNG. That doesnt feel very fair. In short, if you're wondering why people are quitting the game, this is probably why. End game is a never-ending cycle of disappointment. Endgame can be hard, thats why its endgame but please keep it fun.

  

Some things i would change or add. 

 

Allow horses in Aakman and Hystria 

This would be huge and would allow more ppl to grind those places 

Also add more spots at aakman and hystria for ppl to grind  

 

Remove crystal loss 

I don’t understand the idea behind this, yes it adds consequence and danger to a spot. Yet only making 500 mil/hour without drops but losing a 4.8 on a Girin or 1.6 on a Rebelious adds everything but fun. I lost one only a week ago bc of a disconnect for example, so its not even or own mistake sometimes. The crystal loss is also a very discouraging way to test out new spots. 

 

Remove the initial 20 fuel cost from the Dekhia Lantern

DFS is still a thing in 2024, getting griefed aswell. If i need to duel for spot i need to stay close to the actuall spot what causes alot of problems like dying or not being able to chase my target otherwise the lantern will shut off, if i lose i lose twice needing to pay again. If i get griefed i need to fight back or change server and need to pay that inital 20 fuel again.

 

Make tagging free   

For the love of god please just add this feature. As stated before the combat is amazing, allow us to taste and freely tagg every class. The grind is already long enough and being able to play different classes is one way to keep it fun.  

 

Make things less RNG and more reward for effort 

Effort schould be rewarded, i know guys who got 11 vells or one tap stuff yet never grind. And then you have ppl who make the effort but only get rewared with bad RNG. Its like having a job and the ppl that never show up or do anything get a paycheck, but the ppl who work there ass off get nothing. Makes no sense.  

 

Remove downgrade off acc and lower the cost of crons  

The moment you get that TET or PEN is amazing and that schould stay, yet to what degree? I understand you guys are a company and need to make money, one way to do so was to increase the cron stone cost so ppl would buy more costumes. But i think this is way to much. The costs for enhancing gear is insane, trying Tet debo’s costs around 7 billion silver per attempt, and going for Pen is a whopping 30 billion per try. Considering we make around 1.2 billion silver per hour, it takes about 6 hours just to try for Tet and over 25 hours for Pen, not to mention the potential downgrade from enhancing. Buying pearls to get costumes for enhancing is even more nuts. Trying for Tet costs about €90, and going for Pen is around €360 per attempt. This is waaaaay over the top, and were only talking about attempts, no guarantees ...

 

Make ranked AoS perma 

No idea why this is event based. I think BDO is the only game that does this. Many of us, if not everyone would like the option to play ranked.  

BDO feels more and more like a PvE game, i love the PvE (excluding the game features mentioned above) but i don't see the problem in adding more PvP content and certainly not of a perma Ranked AoS feature.

Outro

I did not write this to shit on the game, i just start to feel less intrested the more my journey continues bc of bad game mechanics.

I hope you guys change some things around to make/keep it fun for everyone.  It's ok to want to make money, to challenge ppl, to demand some degree of effort to get to endgame, just don't push it. If a game is fun, ppl will go the extra mile, if you add bad game mechanics ppl will lose intrest. 

 

Gr. 

M 

Well done, here you highlight some thoughts/improvements for this game that PA will not agree ever because if they do that will loose the income. I compared many times this game with world of warcraft and its a huge differences, there you can make one character then do alot of stuffs for months and finally you get the gear for PVE and gear for PVP, then you can make another character for example Healer and do same thing, the more hours you spent the faster you'll get the gear at some point. Now compared to BDO, here you spend years and still not be close enough for end game gear even spending 10h per day if you can, if RNG fu you hard then good luck with everything. Tagging system its somehow good to be different from other games but its expensive and found its more like wasting time, there are alot of characters here to be tried and tested but require slots ( more then a month of collecting loyal points ) or to buy it with real money. Its true you can grow up other characters to have them geared but that mean spending another tons of hours to get silver and buy stuff to gear it up.

Other thing is, not everyone makes 1b/h and most of end game spots or high gear requirement makes under a billion per hour, using ls2 and agris still under 2b, whats the purpose of high gear if the spots are poor in silver?

Example, ls2+agris at Orcs makes 1b+, dehkia oluns with ls2 + agris ~1,5b - differences? One place its easy grind at lower gear and other requires high gear and high chance to die. Gyfin under ~1,3b probably, new hexe boost 1b+ - in reality.

They don't track progression at all, at higher ap i prefer to go where i can get more silver and not try higher spots where I can get less silver and chance to die, so here needs improvements-rework for sure.

RNG here is stupid, one player can one tap all three weapons and others can spent years and still have their tet bs or tri-tet godr.

I know someone who one tap two bs and 3 taps on third weapon, got one tap pen debo neck, few taps on armors to TRI, now how fast he grew up and how easy can grind now versus one who still grind like robot for silver to spend and heat costumes for crons cause who the hell buy crons from NPC? There are alot of unballancing things in this game and from a big company I would expect more to be done. 

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Xentra
Última modificación : 10 abr. 2024, 08:35 (UTC)
# 5

Lets hope this gets more upvotes and PA reads it. 

Última modificación : 10 abr. 2024, 16:11 (UTC)
# 6
On: Mar 31, 2024, 14:22 (UTC), Written by Soratoji

Dear Pearl Abyss, 

  

I hope you're doing well. I want to start by saying how much I love Black Desert Online. It's hands down the best MMO out there, especially when it comes to combat. But there's something that's been bothering me and thats the reality of the endgame grind.  

  

The grind for Deboreka accessories is just brutal. Take Dekhia Ash Forest, for example. It's boring, dangerous, and dying there can be a nightmare because you might lose your valuable crystals. Losing crystals does not add any fun to the game, especially not with the current prices going all the way to 4.8b. And let's not forget about the fact that these spots are bad trash silver wise. So even if we do get something good, most of us choose to enhance it rather than sell it so where still forced to grind somewhere else so we can save for cron stones. 

  

And then there are places like Dekhia Hystria and Aakman where we can't even bring our horses, what is pushing ppl to buy maids just to make these spots grindable. 

Honestly, I'm at a point where I'm not sure why I'm still doing this since most of the content is capped anyway. I get that endgame should be challenging, but it shouldn't be discouraging. And it is here where you make a mistake, making something challenging doesn't necessarily need be discouraging, yet it is in BDO. And to top it all off, there is RNG. Some ppl do put the hours in, yet they get fucked by bad RNG. That doesnt feel very fair. In short, if you're wondering why people are quitting the game, this is probably why. End game is a never-ending cycle of disappointment. Endgame can be hard, thats why its endgame but please keep it fun.

  

Some things i would change or add. 

 

Allow horses in Aakman and Hystria 

This would be huge and would allow more ppl to grind those places 

Also add more spots at aakman and hystria for ppl to grind  

 

Remove crystal loss 

I don’t understand the idea behind this, yes it adds consequence and danger to a spot. Yet only making 500 mil/hour without drops but losing a 4.8 on a Girin or 1.6 on a Rebelious adds everything but fun. I lost one only a week ago bc of a disconnect for example, so its not even or own mistake sometimes. The crystal loss is also a very discouraging way to test out new spots. 

 

Remove the initial 20 fuel cost from the Dekhia Lantern

DFS is still a thing in 2024, getting griefed aswell. If i need to duel for spot i need to stay close to the actuall spot what causes alot of problems like dying or not being able to chase my target otherwise the lantern will shut off, if i lose i lose twice needing to pay again. If i get griefed i need to fight back or change server and need to pay that inital 20 fuel again.

 

Make tagging free   

For the love of god please just add this feature. As stated before the combat is amazing, allow us to taste and freely tagg every class. The grind is already long enough and being able to play different classes is one way to keep it fun.  

 

Make things less RNG and more reward for effort 

Effort schould be rewarded, i know guys who got 11 vells or one tap stuff yet never grind. And then you have ppl who make the effort but only get rewared with bad RNG. Its like having a job and the ppl that never show up or do anything get a paycheck, but the ppl who work there ass off get nothing. Makes no sense.  

 

Remove downgrade off acc and lower the cost of crons  

The moment you get that TET or PEN is amazing and that schould stay, yet to what degree? I understand you guys are a company and need to make money, one way to do so was to increase the cron stone cost so ppl would buy more costumes. But i think this is way to much. The costs for enhancing gear is insane, trying Tet debo’s costs around 7 billion silver per attempt, and going for Pen is a whopping 30 billion per try. Considering we make around 1.2 billion silver per hour, it takes about 6 hours just to try for Tet and over 25 hours for Pen, not to mention the potential downgrade from enhancing. Buying pearls to get costumes for enhancing is even more nuts. Trying for Tet costs about €90, and going for Pen is around €360 per attempt. This is waaaaay over the top, and were only talking about attempts, no guarantees ...

 

Make ranked AoS perma 

No idea why this is event based. I think BDO is the only game that does this. Many of us, if not everyone would like the option to play ranked.  

BDO feels more and more like a PvE game, i love the PvE (excluding the game features mentioned above) but i don't see the problem in adding more PvP content and certainly not of a perma Ranked AoS feature.

Outro

I did not write this to shit on the game, i just start to feel less intrested the more my journey continues bc of bad game mechanics.

I hope you guys change some things around to make/keep it fun for everyone.  It's ok to want to make money, to challenge ppl, to demand some degree of effort to get to endgame, just don't push it. If a game is fun, ppl will go the extra mile, if you add bad game mechanics ppl will lose intrest. 

 

Gr. 

M 

I wanna add one more thing when it comes to accessories, cron cost for lower grade accessories is totally insane.

7k+ crons to enhance disto or tungard is crazy, tet disto price is lower than cron cost 😳 there is no point to protect enhancing because if you fail with crons and your disto downgrade, you'll lose 20b+ in crons and 20b acc 

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