While Ninja has a great kit for mobility etc. the class lacks in stats despite having good ap passives in PvP. Ninja has at the moment a very bad damage to tankiness ratio in my opinion. 820 total ap isnt enough to kill 650 dr in a single combo on regular basis. Class dies in 3 skills while on dmg builds while barely killing hybrid builds. If you decide to go for tank on ninja (DR) on the other hand the class is capable of tanking some dmg but still deals less dmg than it receives. I'd like to collect some thoughts of people who play / play against ninja and I wonder if they feel the same or if its maybe a gear issue since im only at 730-740 gs depending on build.

Yeah. Playing ninja at current patch feels like 30gs lower than actual gear. Dmg is garbo. You need to throw 20 skills on a combo. And you do no dmg at all to anything slighly tanky

It was this way before they nerfed the class, then they made it worse with tank patch and nerfs to shadow stomp and serpent. We're an assassin class that can't assassinate people, and we don't have support skills that make up for it. I could understand the low damage if we were naturally tanky and/or had good support skills like valk or casters, but we just don't, so the current design makes zero sense.

I'm sure non-ninja players will tune in to tell us our damage is still really good, though, like that delusional succ maehwa player from glabs who told me Ninja still hurts and I was on an outdated build when I couldn't 1 combo him post spec eva removal. I tested damage against him and a striker, testing both a 349 ap full glass blast build and 330 ap/acc hybrid build. Couldn't kill either of them, but the succ maehwa cleaned me out in a combo. It's just wild what people think.

maybe you are supposed to hunt for squishies as per your assassin with stealth lore :)

The only squishy classes that exist anymore are other dps characters on glass cannon builds, and has been stated before, you don't get to kill people with that build unless they're another 3 shot character. So ninja v ninja? Great. You get to kill the non-priority target, of which only a handful still play the game anyway. Caster wouldn't be on a squishy build anymore either. Maehwa is historically a squishy class that runs damage builds. Couldn't one combo a maehwa on the glabs patch with spec eva removed. It's just joever for this class.

PA hates ninjas and kunos xD