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Tamer Reboot - Global Lab
18 nov. 2021, 15:10 (UTC)
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Dernière modification : 10 janv. 2022, 20:38 (UTC)
# 22

Fix Heilang AI

Dernière modification : 12 janv. 2022, 13:18 (UTC)
# 23

Even after this patch i can pretty much say you PA are shameless...
This damn class is bugged since rework came out and after a damn month you weren't able to fix a single bug of tamer!
Today you supposedly fixed Heilang damage, 1 of the many known bug that you don't care to fix, because let's be onest you are fixing bugs no one cares or even care to see at this point. But guess what guys! Heilang does barely no damage it's worthless what's this shitty fix?!
So confirming heilang does not damage still, we have heilang getting reset in void if she gets hit by any skill or if we got bleeding or get it (it's so stupid), Void lightining still not working properly or doing rng cc and there is not even a fix in glab.
How much time do we have to wait to get this damn class fixed, a year?!?! Let's not count this rework sucks so much when there is class that can do our jobs way better and have literally better and more iframe than us, this rework sucks and your inexistent fixes sucks as well but you prefer to listen to some crybaby trash player who still doesn't know how to play. But Hei i smash my keyboard with my punches and do more than tamer can do right now. Literally PA you are shameless...

Dernière modification : 13 janv. 2022, 03:59 (UTC)
# 24

Fix the dog. Nuff said.

Dernière modification : 19 janv. 2022, 07:14 (UTC)
# 25
On: Nov 21, 2021, 15:37 (UTC), Written by ALO

Well that so-called rework is more QoL and nerf patch for now because we get less than we loose

 

Nothing is fixed at all just those on the console will play Tamer easier, that is all, and Tamer will get weaker overall because other classes will be stronger than before 

 

Many are mistaken that some QoL changes will make difference but after all Tamer will be a tier lower than now in all PvE, PvP and mass PvP and that is because we get QoL or no changes that will make difference but other get better changes

 

Some things that wasnt mentioned :

 

- The ability to chase targets is still bad and succession tamer is even more doomed with just 2 skills, but the casters get a mobility skill for example ...

- Succession protected dmg in mass PvP when ? one FG and new faster Roaring are not the answer ...

- Succession HP is awful you need inf HP pot as default ... 

- WW part iframe is a joke and is a more joke when Ninja/Kuno get their skill from Iframe/Sa to full iframe but Tamer get nothing...

- Tamer is a "paper" class and we got rework of our /slow activation on Succ and lower duration on both awake( 10s on 13 s CD) and succ (5s /5s) /  evasion buffs by removing them nice, isn't it? and when they make rework of the passive on Tamer they gave 150 more stamina ... WOW amazing ...

- AOE is still bad you can't hit 10 orcs ... /why do they make so fat monsters?/

 

and so on we waste so much time typing and wasting time when PA do what they want

 

For sure with that rework won't catch other new released classes like was announced is the target of the rework/reboot and she will be far from older too.

 

 

How about you finaly reply and say you sre forwarding our information abiut how bad this class is and do ur job? Right now ur just being useless as gms. 

Dernière modification : 20 janv. 2022, 20:51 (UTC)
# 26

Sucession and Awk  changes

 

needs the dog to do dmg

void traps should return to prerework state absolute/prime

 

 

 

 

Sucession ( for pvp)

 

Roaring should have a full stiffen on all hit but only during cooldown not all the time.

Or

Trample having a faster cast time could also help though i think to advoid PVE getting stronger the roaring having siffen back on all ticks when not CD is the better choice.

 

 

 

Reasoning. The class always was about setting a trap to catch burst with it being removed she lost her idenity and got NOTHING in return which has crippled the class everyone rolling off it is proof of this. The class is pratically dead pre rework and now it feels like the nail was put into her post rework till even the diehards are quitting. This point it doesn't even feel like Tamer is a class that Pa wants in game anymore.

Dernière modification : 23 janv. 2022, 11:23 (UTC)
# 27

Dear Pearl.

 

The reason I fell in love with BDO is my Tamu. The infamous loli assasin after rework went from #1 1v1 pvp to #20 1v1 pvp .. I have tried and tried and the class just will not perform as it once did and to be honest its really disheartning to see a class completely destroyed. People who play tamers even if we didnt know eachother considered our tamu gang family and we would play the class with pride and had fun doing so. Now im asked why i still play the class and get teased about doing so. If the devs read this please please give us our class back and make tamu great again. Im not going to go over all the skills and ap/dp problems.. I i just want her to be able to pvp as an s tier class in 1v1 and thats the heart and soul of the tamer and what she was designed for... not a pve class... she is the queen of the 1v1 and to take that away from us is pretty selfish being as thats all tamer had.. you take this away you might as well take her from the game.

 

                                                                                                      Sincerly,

                                                                                                    SimplyVicious

Dernière modification : 19 févr. 2022, 09:49 (UTC)
# 28

Tamer Awakening
third impression after x time amount of gameplay... 

 

Tamer input is fun. It has more cancel & more fun than it was before. I still discover some new tricks. You can link tree climb while being in the air. It ignore instead of jumping back unprotected for a long period of time when getting into collision to a target.

There's a new frontal guard skill for pre awakening. There's also an added awakened CC for a longer area of attack & a new skill to instant swap into awakening & lure mobs. Playing Tamer Awakening is a lot more interactive.

Heilang has a better interaction. Before it was simply wait(gone.), attack, follow & sit(gone). The command that is mostly about doing nothing is gone. They are replaced by Guard & Help. Heilang debuff & guards you. Also, when you ride him, it has more kits & few protected moves.

It all great to use those kits on paper for PVP. But...

There's a problem.


Tamer PVP is mystifying. Cause the change for the core & balance gameplay makes her not so appealing to play or in a new field of gameplay. Under hard gear cap, you just melt. All her skill kit relies on trading inside an area of attack. The area of evasion skill & attack are all very short. Whatever you trade frontal guard against a super armor by another , you're the first to taken down. To be specific, it's under 0.3 sec to have your brain process a plan. That's the time it takes for the FG to melt. using the guard protection. Also, when you try to evade or trade attack with super armor, you die from getting scratched by player who roll their head on the keyboard.

A good example is when there’s desync & you successfully grab on your end. You character has super armor, but the game decide that you failed grab on the other end. Animation is locked & you get trolled by getting one tapped .

For uncapped large scale battle, there's no play. You just die "meaning an open target for free", only rolling the dice with limited invincible visible skills can saves you. All our limited invincible kits are only used for evasion & they have cooldown inside an area of attack. They just run out & we're done. Every single classes that are popular for PVP(that cross in our field of vision) look like deadly large train that catch you effortless. It's like stepping inside the rail when big train is about to come. But no, it's even worse than that. You watch the train rolling from distance & you get crushed. I'm not exaggerating. it's that bad.

For 1v1 against another tamer, it's super boring. Whoever first use Beast Rampage(hardest frontal Guard attack), break the frontal guard & do damage. The rock paper scissor mechanic is gone. There's only a rock & a scissor with the new rework balance & core mechanic of the game. Super Armor protection & Crowd Control has no more value as a kit anymore.

Also, I would add that Tamer Awakening Black Spirit Allround Spinner is garbage. It doesn't even one tap people like people do on us with normal skill. Not only it is weak, but it also use super armor as protection. It's a skill that you use to troll yourself. You get scratched by other people not even trying to aim at you. They have superior area of attack in default. Result, you get one tapped.

It is known that Heilang is bugged. It tends to skip successful crowd control skill for getting scratched.

It's an interesting PVP experience. I never got trolled that hard in a game for 30+ years of being a gamer. I’m trying to understand why I’m still even doing PVP….

Dernière modification : 29 janv. 2022, 10:16 (UTC)
# 29

Stupid Questions but i`m new to pvp. I´m sorry

I use Howling, void lighting etc. But the enemys just run through it without super armor or stuff like that.

They never stunned or stiff. Is it normal?

Front Guard is uesless?

It blocks almost 1 attack? (low dp 347)

evasion / invincible(w+w) got a rlly rlly big gap?

Enemys jump of the grab half the animation is over?

Dernière modification : 29 janv. 2022, 10:23 (UTC)
# 30
On: Jan 29, 2022, 08:33 (UTC), Written by Asado

Stupid Question but i`m new to pvp.

I use Howling, void lighting etc. But the enemys just run through it without super armor or stuff like that.

They never stunned or stiff. Is it normal?

Front Guard is uesless?

It blocks almost 1 attack? (low dp 347)

That's precisely one of the main problem with the reboot, Heilang makes no damage and barely lands CC, it happens once every full moon if you're lucky.

That's the current paradox : the first "summoning" class of BDO can't count on its summon right now. As Tamer can deal some serious damages, it would be more interesting to have reliable CCs with Heilang, but no. Even on succession which emphasizes the link between the Tamer and Heilang, it is nearly a cosmetic aspect of the class. 

On a personal note, I would say that BDO devs had a wonderful occasion to create real differences between both specs, with awakening for 1vs1 or small scale, and succession for bigger scale, but still no. Right now, many classes can do better than tamer with less effort, even this so-called s-class in 1vs1 is now outclassed by several others. Most of the time, if you get really badly defeated by a tamer, that's because the remaining tamers are dedicated and know their strengths and weaknesses. But you will never win a fight playing a tamer by rolling your head on the keyboard. 

About FG, damages are really high now, so you can't rely on it too much. In addition, Tamer is a squishy class, that's not one of our strengths. 

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