Generally speaking if i goto an area and your a low GS player struggling to kill a pack that i can kill in 2 hits your in the wrong area to begin with.

If i come into an area say stars end 99% of the time if i see you grinding i will look around other areas then swap USUALLY to arsha or i goto thorns or one of the other 6 or 7 areas that make me better money than stars end.

Now the problem for me is when you smaller players are trying to muscle your way into a grind spot like stars end, IF i am already grinding you clowns will harrass someone jump into a rotation knowing that i am there tring to force a confrontation. No DFS you make me look like an @ss when i ask you to leave "spot taken". You continue to grind start jumping into my packs forcing me to DEC or Flag.

This always ends the same.. I get 3 kills before i am red i try to feed you to mobs, but in the end you win becouse i will not risk my gear or 2 bil worth of gems becouse of a grind spot. NOW if i can Dec i will merc your @ss at the node and waste my scroll just for the trouble you caused me then people like yourself come in these forums CRYING that high GS veterans are toxic using me mercing you at the node as the example when YOU were the one that caused it all to begin with.

DFS is a cowards way to force yourself into a grind spot BUT that said players that hog a spot for 5 hours are not much different than that of a low GS player trying to muscle in on a spot, monopolizers are using there GS to hord what they can becouse they are there and gen they are just as toxic.  I usually dont bother players becouse i can honestly grind anyplace and make money and if i am out to make money i will go were i know i will not be interupted even if it makes me less money on a rare drop but more money on the junk loot.

Agree the DFS idea is stupid an annoying idea that makes entilted players feel justify for taking over your spot. I was grinding Hystraia yesterday and just popped another round of loot scrolls when a zerk came in asked for DFS. I told him no find his own spot which is fairly easy to do on hystria now days since there multiple rotations and hystria no were near as crowed as Star End. But instead of doing that the zerk decided he was going going to grief me for 2 hours and grind over top of me gipping both our trash per hour because he felt that since I decline to DFS than that means I'm the griefer for some reason. Mean while I playing a Nova when I was grinding so ya without evening having to fight I already know how a class weak to grab would do against a grab class that has 3 grabs in their kit. In the end though he finally left after he deced my guild realized I was on Guild protection because I anticapited he would dec me that told me I was a piece of shit flagged on me anyway killed me than let I got back up took off all my accessories made him go red than send him to jail. And seriously though the fact that he thought me as a nova (one the worest 1v1 classes in the game right now especially vs a grab classes) would DFS against a class that has 3 grabs in their kit is just retarded. That would of been like asking a Shai to DFS. I was already there I know how a DFS would of ended in that match up and I wasn't going to just hand over my spot to some random zerker that felt entilted to any spot he shows up to and force me to waste a loot scroll finding a new spot.

An even than I know half the time when you do DFS and you do win the fight half the time the person who actually requested the DFS refuses to leave and will still decided to grief you anyway. Because you know entilted Ahole that feel entilted to every grinding spot in the game when ever they see fit and anyone that already there well to bad they'll just grief you and say you started it by not handing the spot over too them.

Karma system is part of the game bro. Dont like it - dont use forced pvp feature.

There is no such thing as karma bombing. The attacker chooses actively to jump on the other player. No one is forcing him and if the other gamer is still not leaving it is simply another game of PVP. It is a game of mind and it shows who is mentally stronger and can handle the interruption better.

In my opinion you already have all the options in place to handle the situation.

- declare war - if applicable

- going red - if you want to and can handle it

- feeding to mobs - if you are capable

- out grind him - shouldn't be a problem if you are that much stronger and everyone should be able to handle the loss of a few mobs

- call in guild or friend support - if you have any ;)

- change channel - if you are not able to handle the situation with the steps above.

This will relief a lot of stress cause it is still just a game!

Oh and I nearly forget! Maybe it can help to just talk to each other in a nice and mannerly way to resolve 3/4 of the conflicts but that is just me.  ;)

Edit: btw I have to disagree. All DFS I have won the other player left the spot and I did in reverse when I have lost and  I play on EU as well so I can't see a trend. 

Karma bombing is a problematic area of BDO. 

But there is a solution!

I propose that CC attacks be given a damage stopping mechanic whereas a CC inflicting attack can damage an enemy player like it normally does, but cannot kill an enemy player. 

This would need to be a new mechanism in the game to be imposed on all of the cast. You combo a toon and bring him to low health. To finish him, you need to land a lethal hit with a skill that does not have a CC effect. 

So moves without a CC function can get an affix called Lethal...

This solution fixes the karma bombing problem and makes feeding a karma bomber to mobs about 100% easier. 

The Exp penatly with pvp death will sadly never come back.
And The Force Rez to Town and a 1 min cooldown after a pvp death as been suggested multiple time during the last 5 years and as been never listen.

Going back to a good Open Pvp is completely impossible. they have prioritized Safe-space people for 5 years. Its not likely to change.
We must not have any hope of being heard more. A lot of damage as been deal to the core of the open world. Completly impossible to reverse has been put in place in recent years.

the role of open has been too much regulated in one direction. They can only further reinforce the lack of interest in the open world.

it is not worth request anything in this category. They will completely suppress the ALT + C pvp tag. It's totally the only direction they can take.
The game can only go into further distortion of these initials philosophy.

Adding death penalty debuff will solve it.

When killed several times by one player in certain amount of time the character gets -DP/-AP debuff which raises to level 5 (for example) if still getting killed.

Debuff applies for certain amount of time (lets say 15min)

I honnestly can't believe how entitled and arrogant some players are. As said, karma bombing is not the root of the problem. The problem is some geared player think they can have it all. Not all of us like PvP and/or are hardcore players. Does that mean we don't have the same right to grind and to play the game than everyone else ?

Well. Its just kind. When there will be no 'duel for spot' high geared players will simply get on spot and kill on sight thats all

That's the exact same thing. It does not matter if I say "hi" to you or not before I punch you in the face, does it ?