Hello

Long story short. Can we get Valencia RBF 15vs15. It makes a complete different RBF experience. There are plenty of empty RBF. Run an event on it and see if people like it.

Would be nice to have some pseudo PvP honor system. Maybe even rework of karma, or keept it, don't matter. The goal in mind is to motivate skilled players to attack other skilled players rather than preying on new players. Let's be honest, there is fair bit of toxicity in this game. Even when I force myself to be absolutely polite I get bulied to oblivion. So what if you get good honor points for killing skilled players, but get some substraction if you savage rekt new player. This would make it more likely noobs attacking noobs and pros attacking pros. And players just love flex their rankings. This is by no means solution, but I believe it would reduce the toxicity by a good amount. I think people would really like it, it's largely a pvp game after all.

//edit: rbf 15vs15*

Now let’s hope people don’t jump of you for expressing you thoughts. The idea of an honors system as you have put it, not a fan. New players will be wrecked in rbf (was new once ,was brutal, when I leant the most):

(Failed) better solution is an area for newer players (be done with capping) but that always died fast.

(Failed) another option is a buff to bring up minimum stats. This is what we have now, but PA miss that you cannot balance for skill, so they have hurt RBF more than anything… but they don’t listen to the players of RBF, just the people that didn’t like it as it was... who will leave anyway as you can't balacne skill in this fasion.. leave a mess for the player that stick to RBF (Every time)

You our idea, well, given everything failed so fair, I can see why you would put it forward. It’s not that your thick, it’s that you are thinking about side the box and taking into account what has been done already.. Pretty smart (a lot of people will not see that)

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as for match sizes, i would like to see 15v15.. 30v30 what we have now.. it's great for top fraggers, It terrable for 1v1 classes. it's not a middle ground. Wanna have a easy time in RBF and get all the kills? play a frag class, dont even have to try, so many bodies in the match... wait for them to stack on a 1v1 class, then bounce in on a zerk. now if you 15v15, and people still bring in top fragers mostly... its not gonna work for them, they will have to fight for easy kills, 1v1 classes are so swamed  right now (like when 10-20 jump on one musa, cant happen in 15 v15 - blanace PA balance :P)

rbf is currently an 30v30 bg, as it have a total cap of 60players.

Obviously since the developers aren't very competent, they can't literately check a single integer, so sometimes there are 74 players in it, and the teams are usually like 30-40 and similarly onesided, but that can't be helped if you use bottom tier developers, still on paper it supposed to be a max 30v30 mode.

On the other topic it's pointless. When they added valencia rbf, ppl did try it out, and a lot of rbf did run at the same time.

But the fact that after a few weeks it's playercount went down to half of what the old castle ruins had shows the sad state of bdo PvP. The new rbf map is not only absolutely terrible for PvP, but they also ruined the already garbage balance even more with their failure rework, and if that would not be enough, the bandaid 1k hp made it even worse.

Also they should make rbf into 20v20 at most as the trash engine can't handle more players.

i couldn't agree more.

They introduced Valencia map full of roofs when they themselves did TRIM the walls in castle ruins way back!!! 

Point capping is too fast

Spawn locations are not balanced

Teams are rng

Spawn buff is too long and being abused

Now they added 1k hp just to kill it for some classes unlike others.

Castle ruins is dead cuz the playlist is below valencia and not mixed, what are these decisions even.

I fixed the rbf number thanks.

I know there are number of things that could use some polish. This is just related to my most recent experience. The honor is just silly idea. I think some people hardcapped they just bored goofing around. This could been some progression to work towards.

Truly the RBF is a lot of what class you bring in. The 60 cap is great if you play right class, on 1v1 classes it's really bad, I'd say even pointless.

It seems in RBF the game counts tagged characters as two entries instead of 1.  A 20-25 each side cap RBF will most certainly feel better. Same with Node wars and Siege.. there is no reason to have 100 people in large-scale fights when the game engine cannot handle it. The last calpheon siege felt epic with 500 people sieging the castle at 4fps. 

15vs 15 aint even 3 people per node.

it would be all rat classes paradise. 

no that doesnt sound even remotely fun.

honestly theres very few things less annoying in this game than spawn protection andies cosntantl respawning and going for enemy team with protection on some super mobile classes like zerks, musas, ninjers/kunos etc.

few of these guys at the same time literally kill all the fun for me personally as its legit feeling like they have cheat mode on as some classes can almost reach enemy spawn node with their own protection buff.

15 per team is honestly too little for valencia, just like 30 is way too much for castle ruins.