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11 mars 2021, 14:44 (UTC)
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Dernière modification : 16 mars 2021, 16:29 (UTC)
# 81
On: Mar 16, 2021, 08:28 (UTC), Written by Aal


Thats exactly what Convenience is. Getting something easier than through normal means. 

Can you get there without them? Yes. Would it be easier if you paid? Yes

Convenience.

Amazing points.  Lets test your logic and watch it fall apart.

 

5000% Drop Loot Scrolls.  (Can you get there without them? Yes. Would it be easier if you paid? Convenience.)

90% Increased Enchant Success (Can you get there without them? Yes. Would it be easier if you paid? Convenience.)

29,000% Exp Boost (Can you get there without them? Yes. Would it be easier if you paid? Convenience.)

PEN Items in Cash shop (Can you get there without them? Yes. Would it be easier if you paid? Convenience.)

Buying a level 66 Character (Can you get there without them? Yes. Would it be easier if you paid? Convenience.)

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Dernière modification : 16 mars 2021, 16:47 (UTC)
# 82
On: Mar 16, 2021, 00:02 (UTC), Written by asdsadfas

If you actually read the post, half your entire argument has been addressed already. 

 

Ah, so you're completely changing your entire argument from canape to p2w weight? nice, good thing the recipes for cooking for cp takes almost no weight.

 

If you're cooking for cp you're always cooking at a loss, and a measily 5m on top of that is meaningless. Any other recipe you can almost never cook at a loss due to imperials existing. 

 

1sec is easy, and yes if you actually read what I posted then you would know I factored in draught cost and reuse timer. 

 

"Because if you DON'T do that properly you will get error checked and many of your procs will fail.  Damn how do I know everything about these systems?"

 

Ok this is factually false, you don't fail your procs on weight or anything that you mentioned but recipe, what kinda nonsense are you trying to spin now?

 
 
ok need i remind you that this is an in game activity cooking, and not buying cp from cash shop

It shows your lack of understanding of either the system or what is being explained.

 

"Because if you DON'T do that properly you will get error checked and many of your procs will fail.  Damn how do I know everything about these systems?"

 

The server verifies requests based on time stamps.  There are many bugs in BDO where the appropriate timers are not updated properly.  This often happens when you have 1sec cooking, but it's based on a stone buff.  When the buff expires you may continue to try to cook at 1 second intervals.  This results in a spam of messages because the timer is invalid.  You need to trigger the update by doing something that changes your cooking.  Unequipping clothing, food etc.

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Dernière modification : 16 mars 2021, 18:06 (UTC)
# 83
On: Mar 16, 2021, 16:47 (UTC), Written by Retteo

It shows your lack of understanding of either the system or what is being explained.

 

"Because if you DON'T do that properly you will get error checked and many of your procs will fail.  Damn how do I know everything about these systems?"

 

The server verifies requests based on time stamps.  There are many bugs in BDO where the appropriate timers are not updated properly.  This often happens when you have 1sec cooking, but it's based on a stone buff.  When the buff expires you may continue to try to cook at 1 second intervals.  This results in a spam of messages because the timer is invalid.  You need to trigger the update by doing something that changes your cooking.  Unequipping clothing, food etc.

Maybe that's what happens the last time you opened the game, but not anymore though I'm skeptical it ever existed at all. Maybe it's your lack of playing the game that you don't understand any systems that is being talked about here. source verdure drops after 15 minutes cooking, cooking continues, never had that "problem" you're describing.

 

but yes keep going on about not knowing when your most recent source is from 2017, probably the last time you touched the game as shown repeatedly by yourself.

Dernière modification : 16 mars 2021, 18:10 (UTC)
# 84
Publicado: 16 mar. 2021, 16:28 (UTC), Autor: Retteo

Amazing points.  Lets test your logic and watch it fall apart.

 

5000% Drop Loot Scrolls.  (Can you get there without them? Yes. Would it be easier if you paid? Convenience.)

90% Increased Enchant Success (Can you get there without them? Yes. Would it be easier if you paid? Convenience.)

29,000% Exp Boost (Can you get there without them? Yes. Would it be easier if you paid? Convenience.)

PEN Items in Cash shop (Can you get there without them? Yes. Would it be easier if you paid? Convenience.)

Buying a level 66 Character (Can you get there without them? Yes. Would it be easier if you paid? Convenience.)

If you want to just invent extreme cases which do not exist to try to prove your point be my guest.

I was just replying you about the cooking examples youve been talking about for 3 pages :shrug

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Dernière modification : 16 mars 2021, 19:53 (UTC)
# 85
Écrit le : 16 mars 2021, 06:13 (UTC), par : Woots

Not the point i've raised.

Kratuga being hard walled Where did i SPECIFICALY said "Kratuga being hard walled" ? ( yet indeed kratuga ancien ruin isnt something you go run with oasis gear + whatever main quest cheap acc as fresh new player)

Or are you trying to make look like i said something you made up just to give you a reason to be insulting ? YUP

 

As my point was general : PA pullout something to "help new players" yet the requierment have nothing to do with what an actual new player starting off nothing can do.

You, understand, point, correctly, now ? mr "i rush too much because way too in a hurry to insult" ?

 

 

Anyway as usual with toxicbone. Either you have something relevant to say related to what i've said ( without make up things ),

Either you rather remain silent in your corner as you can keep your attack attempt. I have so far absolutely zero consideration for your person ( not in a mean way, just, i dont care. You are like a fly buzzing in a room passing by. you try to make noise so you are "noticed", yet 2min after i forget you ever existed ), therefore whatever what your opinion about me is, it will never have any importance ( that not saying, pretending to know how is a person, irl, based on a random internet forum,  only mean you are just a random toxic looking to "fight" )

 

So, ( again ), you will really never go anywhere like that with me (. I thought after some time you would have get it, but seems like i was overestimating your intelligence on that matter )

 

 

So Kratuga isn't hard walled yet a new player can't do it according to your own words.

 

Why do you write a novel of bad excuses just to add lack of basic logic skill to your pathetic lack of social skills.

 

Just admit you're too much of an asocial to group with people in an MMO so that this content seems hard walled to you and move on, any normal human being can clear this content as a new player with nasic gear provided by the game.

Dernière modification : 16 mars 2021, 20:11 (UTC)
# 86
On: Mar 16, 2021, 16:28 (UTC), Written by Retteo

Amazing points.  Lets test your logic and watch it fall apart.

 

5000% Drop Loot Scrolls.  (Can you get there without them? Yes. Would it be easier if you paid? Convenience.)

90% Increased Enchant Success (Can you get there without them? Yes. Would it be easier if you paid? Convenience.)

29,000% Exp Boost (Can you get there without them? Yes. Would it be easier if you paid? Convenience.)

PEN Items in Cash shop (Can you get there without them? Yes. Would it be easier if you paid? Convenience.)

Buying a level 66 Character (Can you get there without them? Yes. Would it be easier if you paid? Convenience.)

These don't exist.  You'll try to prove it using convoluted logic, once again, and will fail to provide tangible evidence, like a screenshot, again.  Bet.

 

5000% Drop Loot Scrolls. - never existed. Period.  5k% drop rate?? Dafuq.

90% Increased Enchant Success - again, doesn't exist.  There are Valk's Cry, which are given out for free or able to be purchased with Loyalties.  And even then, doesn't increase your enhancement success by 90% LOL, it depends what failstack you're on and what item you're enhancing, but even in the best case, the increase isn't overly stupid like giving "90% increase" LUL?  Going from 35 FS to 45 FS to attempt a TRI accessory, for example, raised the success chance from about 30% - 40%.  How did you calculate 90%?  Going from 0 FS - 10 FS (you can only use 10 Valk's Cry maximum, and this is an extreme example to try to meet this extreme claim.  No one uses Valk's Cry on 0 FS, that's just dumb) for a PRI accessory will bring you from like 10% - 50% or so.  How TF did you get 90%?  LOLOLOLOL

29,000% Exp Boost - OK now you're just throwing out random numbers.  There is a 1,000% exp event going on -- no cash shop needed.  530% exp scrolls are given out via Loyalties, a small amount of Loyalties, even.  200% scrolls for one hour are given daily, which you can combine 3 to make it a 600% scroll for one hour.  Book of Combat is 100% exp for 24 hours, but is not sold on cash shop.  Book of Old Moon is 100%, and is frequently given out for free.  And is easily obtainable via Central Market.  Some of these things aren't from cash shop, IE; 1,000% exp event and the 200% exp scrolls, but even when adding all these, you're nowhere close to 29,000%.  KEKW???

PEN Items in Cash shop - Zero PEN sold for money.  You buy costumes to melt for Crons.  You use Crons to take a chance.  You're buying the CHANCE for a PEN, not a "PEN item in cash shop" -- you're twisting things to fit your narrative, again, anyone with half a brain can see.

Buying a level 66 Character - by breaking TOS and purchasing from an account auction house?  Dafuq.  Show me where in BDO's cash shop I can buy a level 66 charcater xDDDD

 

You're not even trying at this point.  You're just throwing out random numbers and hope they stick.  Troll harder, bruh, c'mon. You can troll better, can't you?  Troll harder!!

 

Dernière modification : 16 mars 2021, 20:15 (UTC)
# 87

And just something that stands out to me.

 

Here's what most users have next to their posts:

 

Versus our boy Retto:

 

Just somethinig to keep in mind.

Dernière modification : 16 mars 2021, 20:38 (UTC)
# 88
On: Mar 16, 2021, 20:08 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos

These don't exist.  You'll try to prove it using convoluted logic, once again, and will fail to provide tangible evidence, like a screenshot, again.  Bet.

 

5000% Drop Loot Scrolls. - never existed. Period.  5k% drop rate?? Dafuq.

90% Increased Enchant Success - again, doesn't exist.  There are Valk's Cry, which are given out for free or able to be purchased with Loyalties.  And even then, doesn't increase your enhancement success by 90% LOL, it depends what failstack you're on and what item you're enhancing, but even in the best case, the increase isn't overly stupid like giving "90% increase" LUL?  Going from 35 FS to 45 FS to attempt a TRI accessory, for example, raised the success chance from about 30% - 40%.  How did you calculate 90%?  Going from 0 FS - 10 FS (you can only use 10 Valk's Cry maximum, and this is an extreme example to try to meet this extreme claim.  No one uses Valk's Cry on 0 FS, that's just dumb) for a PRI accessory will bring you from like 10% - 50% or so.  How TF did you get 90%?  LOLOLOLOL

29,000% Exp Boost - OK now you're just throwing out random numbers.  There is a 1,000% exp event going on -- no cash shop needed.  530% exp scrolls are given out via Loyalties, a small amount of Loyalties, even.  200% scrolls for one hour are given daily, which you can combine 3 to make it a 600% scroll for one hour.  Book of Combat is 100% exp for 24 hours, but is not sold on cash shop.  Book of Old Moon is 100%, and is frequently given out for free.  And is easily obtainable via Central Market.  Some of these things aren't from cash shop, IE; 1,000% exp event and the 200% exp scrolls, but even when adding all these, you're nowhere close to 29,000%.  KEKW???

PEN Items in Cash shop - Zero PEN sold for money.  You buy costumes to melt for Crons.  You use Crons to take a chance.  You're buying the CHANCE for a PEN, not a "PEN item in cash shop" -- you're twisting things to fit your narrative, again, anyone with half a brain can see.

Buying a level 66 Character - by breaking TOS and purchasing from an account auction house?  Dafuq.  Show me where in BDO's cash shop I can buy a level 66 charcater xDDDD

 

You're not even trying at this point.  You're just throwing out random numbers and hope they stick.  Troll harder, bruh, c'mon. You can troll better, can't you?  Troll harder!!

 

It's kind of painful to teach you everything you should have already learned in life, but lets get started.

 

hypothetical example is a fictional example that can be used when a speaker is explaining a complicated topic that makes the most sense when it is put into more realistic or relatable terms.

 

If you had put some effort into it you would have come to the innevitable conclusion.  Every example listed would be defined as merely convience based on the criteria set by that user.

 

Maybe that's because I use Logic and you use Feelings?

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Dernière modification : 16 mars 2021, 20:40 (UTC)
# 89
On: Mar 16, 2021, 06:13 (UTC), Written by Woots

Not the point i've raised.

Kratuga being hard walled Where did i SPECIFICALY said "Kratuga being hard walled" ? ( yet indeed kratuga ancien ruin isnt something you go run with oasis gear + whatever main quest cheap acc as fresh new player)

Or are you trying to make look like i said something you made up just to give you a reason to be insulting ? YUP

 

As my point was general : PA pullout something to "help new players" yet the requierment have nothing to do with what an actual new player starting off nothing can do.

You, understand, point, correctly, now ? mr "i rush too much because way too in a hurry to insult" ?

 

 

Anyway as usual with toxicbone. Either you have something relevant to say related to what i've said ( without make up things ),

Either you rather remain silent in your corner as you can keep your attack attempt. I have so far absolutely zero consideration for your person ( not in a mean way, just, i dont care. You are like a fly buzzing in a room passing by. you try to make noise so you are "noticed", yet 2min after i forget you ever existed ), therefore whatever what your opinion about me is, it will never have any importance ( that not saying, pretending to know how is a person, irl, based on a random internet forum,  only mean you are just a random toxic looking to "fight" )

 

So, ( again ), you will really never go anywhere like that with me (. I thought after some time you would have get it, but seems like i was overestimating your intelligence on that matter )

 

What parts of the log are new players not able to do?

 

Also, can you explain why or how it is unavailable to new players?

Dernière modification : 16 mars 2021, 20:51 (UTC)
# 90
On: Mar 16, 2021, 20:36 (UTC), Written by Retteo

It's kind of painful to teach you everything you should have already learned in life, but lets get started.

 

hypothetical example is a fictional example that can be used when a speaker is explaining a complicated topic that makes the most sense when it is put into more realistic or relatable terms.

 

If you had put some effort into it you would have come to the innevitable conclusion.  Every example listed would be defined as merely convience based on the criteria set by that user.

 

Maybe that's because I use Logic and you use Feelings?

Ok so you admit to use made-up examples here.

 

"A hypothetical example is a fictional example that can be used when a speaker is explaining a complicated topic that makes the most sense when it is put into more realistic or relatable terms."

 

LULW. Hypothesis is a scientific term. It means "an educated guess". Your made-up examples are just that -- totally fictitious - zero educated guesses, just random stuff. You even openly admitted to using made-up examples in the quote I pulled. I guess, to you, something that is made-up is equal to "realistic terms". Lol! That's a riot.

 

Zero educated guess here, just random examples using made-up numbers. Pretty telling of you, tsk tsk Vortexii. You don't even know what you're talking about at this point. Give it up dude, you'll just tarnish your own reputation here like you did on the old forum as a blatant troll. It's clear of your intentions here - steer people away from the game.

 

Idk if you know the meaning of intellectual dishonesty and disingenuousness, I suggest you learn what those two terms mean. As well as the meaning of "hypothetical", because you're clearly just making more stuff up. Hypothesis does not equal throwing out random scenarios and hoping they stick. KEK

 

 

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