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Patrigio's Apparel Bag and Other Nonsense
19 oct. 2022, 06:37 (UTC)
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Dernière modification : 19 oct. 2022, 06:37 (UTC)
# 1

I was in Velia last month and saw Morco here with the offer of making Patrigio's Bag. The list of ingredients at first glance didn't appear overwhelming...

how wrong I was about it.

This is a weekly quest and unless you are well prepared, you will be working on collecting these ingredients for about a month like I did. 

This bag is created by giving Morco the following ingredients;
100 x Supreme Tough Hide
100 x Supreme Soft Hide
20 x Dusk Laden Cotton Fabric
20 x Dawn Fallen Silk
5 x Sunset Dyed Wool

Some of these can be purchased the central market (CM),  others will not be available at times.  The last item listed ( Sunset Dyed Wool) is not sold or traded. Once per day it can be obtained from Lara in Heidel as a quest reward or you can trade 500 Golden Seals for all 5, from Imperial Cuisine vendors, like Pasvinder in Heidel.  So that was easy enough for me, since I trade often with the professional cooking boxes.

However when I added up the average cost of buying all these items from the CM.  It ran roughly 450 million silver for all the materials, assuming they are for sale. I decided to make these items from scratch and this would have no cost for me in silver spent in the CM.  After reviewing some of the needed ingredients I decided some silver would be spent on fabrics.  Also nowhere in this quest does it warn you that Artisan Processing Skills will be required to make some of these items.  

After weeks of farming items and creating ingredients, I had the overall feeling like this crafting quest for a simple bag  should be a guild level activity. For example,  here are the breakdown of the main ingredients;

100 x Supreme Tough Hide - "Shaking Skilled", 500 Leather Glaze, 300 Fine Tough Hide.
100 x Supreme Soft Hide - "Shaking Skilled", 500 Leather Glaze, and 300 Fine Soft Hide.
20 x Dusk Laden Cotton Fabric - "Grinding Skilled", 1000 Oil of Fortitude and 1000 x Cotton Fabric.
20 x Dawn Fallen Silk - "Grinding Skilled", 1000 Oil of Storms and 1000 Silk.

I am sure most of you know the procedure needed to craft the hides and fabrics, no need to go into those details.  When it comes right down to it, I am almost certain I spent more than 450 million making one bag... they want us to make a bag a week??  I got that out of my system fast.  Now when I ride by Morco waving at me like a lunatic, I just frantically laugh like a maniac and trot off down the road.  This same bag can be purchased from Patrigio in his random Black Market at a mere 50 million... assuming you have the energy to spend on the RNG.

My friend over on the PS4 console told me he is building a forest path wagon... bwahhahahahaha!

Have fun!

Dernière modification : 19 oct. 2022, 07:22 (UTC)
# 2

From all the tedious and insanity inducing grinds you could choose from, you chose five dailies?

Dernière modification : 19 oct. 2022, 16:21 (UTC)
# 3

Pretty sure I've gotten a few of those bags for free from rewards over the years.

Dernière modification : 19 oct. 2022, 16:32 (UTC)
# 4

Wait for it, you'll get one for free someday. I have two. Never used them.

Dernière modification : 19 oct. 2022, 17:48 (UTC)
# 5

No, they don't necessarily want you to make a bag a week. Rather, they're limiting you to being able to get one a week via the quest. With how repeatable quests work in this game, it was either going to be a daily quest or a weekly one, and for whatever reason, PA decided to go with a weekly in this case (not that it would be easy to do it daily anyway). Regardless, there's nothing that requires that you do the quest, and it's ultimately up to you how many times you do it. They did make it a pain with how many resources it requires, but it's also a nice item to have, so there's certainly an argument to be had that it should be harder to get. And how many you "need" really depends on how you play. Someone with a lot of pearl outfits is probably going to want a lot of them, whereas someone with very few pearl outfits is probably not going to want many at all. Probably their biggest benefit is allowing you to swap to the lifeskilling pearl costumes and have your regular outfit then sit in the bag so that you can easily swap back again rather than having individual pieces of your outfit end up in your pearl inventory.

In any case, if you don't want to do the the weekly to get more of the bags, there are other options. Sometimes, the bag is available to buy with loyalties. Sometimes, PA will give one out with a coupon code or as a login reward. However, probably the best way to get them if you want a bunch of them is to use the night vendor. It's obviously random whether it's available, so sometimes you can get a few in a short period of time, and sometimes it takes a while to get any, but it doesn't require collecting all of those items for the quest (and you can of course use the night vendor in addition to quest to further speed things up). The bag typically costs around 100 million silver from the night vendor, though obviously, the price varies.

Regardless, the situation with Patrigio's Apparel Bag is better than that of Morco's Gear Bag, since Morco's Gear Bag requires that you spend pearls.

Dernière modification : 19 oct. 2022, 18:03 (UTC)
# 6

It makes no sense to gate patrigio's bag like this. They are intended for PEARL costumes. Something you already pay for with real money (presumably). I have 12 patrigio's bags. Some where free, others were obtained by purchasing them at the night vendor for about 80mil a pop. I have sometimes spent over 6000 energy and failed to get one from patrigio, the RNG is pretty awful. Sometimes you can get it out of the blue and that's what i just hope for at random.

I know they are doing away with patrigio's bag in the future by implementing a wardrobe system but you will probably still need wardrobe slots which will be patrigio's bag but converted over. I struggle with all my outfits in the pearl tab, I really do. I manage to bring it down to about 174 or so but I'm not hogging all pearl items on one character, they are spread across many so the fact that I have at times reached maximum items in the pearl bag is pretty bad. I can't own all outfits because I would run out, I still have 3 costumes I can't open because if I do, I will run out of space.

So I have to wait until I get patrigio's bag until I open one. I'm not sure what I'll do about the halloween outfit, i'm at the point of needing to delete quest obtained armor and I'm not doing that.

Morco's bag is not for pearl items.

Dernière modification : 20 oct. 2022, 03:41 (UTC)
# 7
On: Oct 19, 2022, 16:21 (UTC), Written by jangalangz

Pretty sure I've gotten a few of those bags for free from rewards over the years.

I have several of the free bags myself.  I like the ability it gives any character to click and swap costumes without clutter and fuss. 

@Tooshaitopost 

Yes I agree it is pointless to gate the bag with too much time or expense.  The bag cannot be sold in the CM.  I only brought this up because building a cog (which I have done) takes less than a week assuming you run a minimum of 3 workers.  That is 4 to 5 ships a month and the bag to hold my clothes takes longer?  I am done making these bags, with the first bag I ever made, and i will enjoy the ones I have now.  This collection quest is not fun or timely, it consumes more than draining vats of energy potions at the random Black Market.  By the way, good luck with the Halloween costumes.

Have fun!

Dernière modification : 30 nov. 2022, 19:45 (UTC)
# 8

Liana's Tool Bag

Here is yet another nonsense item they gave us.  Not that I don't appreciate FREE, they don't sell it anywhere in the game or allow it to be crafted. It is obtained by doing a weird Q&A session with any of Liana's clones found through-out the game.  But only one per family.  It is pretty good, if you are just gathering items at random and have no set type in mind.  You can swap from mining to tree cutting without going into your inventory.

However...

Recently I was literally in the middle of nowhere hunting.  I have Liana's Tool Bag with a magic butcher knife.  When my rifle needs repair, I can visually see it.  Better check the knife too... oops can't do that without going ALL that distance back to town.   Thus when you are out gathering and run into a used up tool in the bag, you are just SOL.  Of course you can carry backups in your inventory, but then that defeats the whole purpose of this silly item.  It would seem like my character should be aware of the durability of these items when in the field.

Dernière modification : 30 nov. 2022, 21:59 (UTC)
# 9
On: Nov 30, 2022, 19:44 (UTC), Written by LooneyYellowBear

Recently I was literally in the middle of nowhere hunting.  I have Liana's Tool Bag with a magic butcher knife.  When my rifle needs repair, I can visually see it.  Better check the knife too... oops can't do that without going ALL that distance back to town.   Thus when you are out gathering and run into a used up tool in the bag, you are just SOL.  Of course you can carry backups in your inventory, but then that defeats the whole purpose of this silly item.  It would seem like my character should be aware of the durability of these items when in the field.

This is a really strange nitpick. I did *a lot* of hunting recently pushing from Master 1 to Guru 1, and I know that you have to repair your matchlock every few minutes. Matchlock durability will deplete much faster than your Butcher's Knife durability, so just hitting "repair all" whenever you have to fix your matchlock should handle the knife. 

Dernière modification : 30 nov. 2022, 22:42 (UTC)
# 10
On: Nov 30, 2022, 19:44 (UTC), Written by LooneyYellowBear

Liana's Tool Bag

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Liana's Tool Bag is an epic fail. You can't see any wear on our tools, and the bag alone weighs more than all the tools combined.

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