Still hoping!

whats the possible loot for these now?

You have pea and you have nuts.

open close On: Nov 5, 2022, 00:11 (UTC), Written by Freggel

Title: Memory Fragments from Manshaum Voodoo Dolls
Family Name: Pitto_Kara

Region (NA/EU): EU

Suggestion/Comments: Right now there are sitting way too many Dolls in the central market at the lowest price. You cannot add the profit of these dolls from your grinding sessions in Kamasylvia, since they will never sell at all. I think the Voodoo Dolls should give memory fragments and be valuable like the "Scrolls written in Ancient Language", since Valencia spots are very profitable anyways. Also memory fragments are in need all the time, especially for newer players which work on their Safe PEN items from the Jetina Quest.

Having items in your grinding item pool that wont sell at all does not make sense to me. There might be a few players which do these dolls, but many Content Creaters tested these already and the profit is not that high, which wont be appealing to the majority of the player base.

A change to the loot table of these Voodoo Dolls would increase its sells and they wont get dusty in the central market anymore. 

Edit: Since many players including myself are not satisfied with the Boss itself, my suggestions would be the following:

1.) Let the Boss stay like it is, but increases its loot significant (including memory fragments).

2.) Make the Boss more easy like the Pila Fe summoned bosses and changes it loottable , similiar to Pila Fe scrolls.

3.) Let the players choose if they want to do it as party (like Pila Fe) or do it solo, change the boss accordingly.

4.) The summoning process of all the scrolls takes way too long. A change would be needed aswell, especially for the easier bosses you spam a lot! Also remove the quests for it, just let the loot orbs drop from the boss itsself and your pets can collect it.

5.) A lot of players stated that players could make too much silver out of the old ones if the new ones become valuable again and that it could cause inflation,

my suggestion would be that they make an improved version of these and people that stacked the old ones can use simply alchemy i.e. to combine 5 of the old ones to a new one with more profit and the ones that are already registered in the CM get removed. Players that put them in before the buff would get them in their ingame mail after the change and they wont be sellable anymore.

The improved version would drop a mix of Memory Fragments / Caphras / Doomhorse mats split equally, like the full amount of Memory Fragments that would drop when doing the Pila Ku summoning scrolls.

The Boss mechanic itself should be like the Pila Ku Boss mechanic but spammable / easier to summon. Also it should have the group method, where the boss is much harder which should reward players in a party with for example 10% more Loot than doing it solo. This way players would form groups more frequently for this and get rewarded more.

This was very much needed thank you for this, anyone who has grinded in the Kamasylvia region for an extensive period of time will agree.

A rework to these items is essential, the sheer number of them in the marketplace should speak volumes.

Lets do some quick mafs here: (at the time of the screen shot he took) theres 2,842,000 dolls min listed at 630,000 silver. 2,842,000 x 630,000 = 1,790,460,000,000 and thats just the min listed dolls lmao.

Now considering nothing has changed and we factor in the amount of people who play this game who grind in that region the number off the top of my head would probably be anywhere from 2 trillion to 2.5 trillion in total currently.

Easily one of the biggest single item issue we have when you think about it.

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I do mana pot piece grind on seasonals and at this point Id settle for a new fairy ability to auto trash voodoo dolls 

I don't even bother running them I sell to NPC, or delete them.

I tried these again after the last rework...they don't even drop the new sturdy forest tread material that the rework was allegedly about.  That's in addition to still being excessively tanky compared and time consuming.  Relic and Pila Fe scrolls should be the example they follow with these.  These scrolls should not be more time consuming and tanky...while also being less profitable...than farming a pack of Gyfin Under mobs...seriously.  Would it kill the game to have these scrolls be rewarding and efficient...and not just for PvP players (that's really the only market for anything whale tendon related). 

Yeah now that the useless update failed can we stick with plan B and deleting these pointless items?

Might just have to at this point.

Too much time needed per scroll. It's a "tough" fight, and not fun at all like the Griffon Scroll Boss for example, but just a tanky boss with lots of HP and even more CC. This WILL take time to take it down, even with best gear. And then the "rewards": just forget it.

Compare to Pila Fe scrolls: I one shot those 2 NPC's, and even with newbie gear is doable, and get 5+ Memory Fragments (it's more, but even 5 is something compared to Voodoo).

So they just fill the market, because why a sane player would do them? Not for the rewards, that's for sure. Maybe looking to be constantly CC'd by a tanky boss because need the spanky badly. 

And would not be a problem, since they are optional. Just feels like a nerf to the Kama spots which drop these silly loot items.

Either make them give some insane amount of XP, so they are worth doing, for those wanting combat XP, but also nerf boss HP to like 10% or 25% of actual HP (or most players won't be able to kill them quick enough), or keep increasing the reward until there are none listed on the market. Or the amount listed is similar to relics and such.

Keeping them as they are means less value for those spots. At this point there are 2,374,714 listed for lowest price on EU (that's over 2 million and increasing). The market says 2,6 mil because there are so many who won't even bother relisting them at lowest price. Their real worth is 15,000 silver, the vendor price.