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More Group/Duo Grinding Spots are needed!
5 nov. 2022, 15:25 (UTC)
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Dernière modification : 25 avr. 2023, 13:01 (UTC)
# 51
On: Apr 25, 2023, 12:13 (UTC), Written by irondood

I've personally never done the dungeons before, but from my understanding, aren't they still in the open world up until the final boss? I am all for the group content, I want it to happen, this is an MMO, but I also don't feel that they want to stray too far into the Theme Park MMO category, for whatever reasons the devs have, be it passion for the open world style game or profits from people enhancing and wanting to be strong for open world encounters with players.

Dungeons are fun, to be honest. And unless you're a full team of potatoes, they're not that punishing on season. Normal brings more challenge and, well... Elvia difficulty is end game. They did seem to have strike a balance between challenge and reward with them. Eventually. I would like the subsequent runs to still give something more than just 1 scroll (to encourage friends and guild members to rerun the dungeons for those that still need them, for example).

On: Apr 25, 2023, 12:13 (UTC), Written by irondood

I see the KR players doing the boss rush, and you're instanced for the entirety of the fight, similar to Pit until you start the fight (Was surprised to see another player there one day before I started my fights). Speaking of Pit, despite the rewards being...meh, I still run it everyday. I find it to be one of the most engaging content in the game because some of the fights actually require planning and using all of your kit. It's also another way for me to earn some Crow Coin/day, so I don't mind the 15 minutes because it's fun to me.

How PA will choose to do the next bit of group content is not my business. But Boss Rush was announced as solo/group content. And to avoid making a ladder for the group aspect, I can't imagine another way of rewarding the activity. I mean I can: PA coming and saying that running the bosses in a group is rewarding on its own and loot can only be obtained when soloing them. I wouldn't put such a claim/excuse past them.

On: Apr 25, 2023, 12:13 (UTC), Written by irondood

It seems like one of their major struggles is how to balance engaging group content, with maintaining an open world environment with less instanced gameplay.

Pick spots that no one grinds in and make them group content. And they did that. Then, in true PA fashion, they made the rewards so bad that there was barely any soul in those spots (to the point where they're bound to buff them for the 3rd time, I think?).

It's easy to balance BDO content. I mean, you have Orcs, Centaurs and Hexe. Then Upper Gyfin (maybe Olun's?) for group. Everything else is filler. Unless the future group content will upset this, it won't matter that much for the solo players - as long as the best spots will still be the ones above. But most group content in BDO - except for dungeons (which themselves are unrewarding unless you clear the end boss, so the open world filler is irrelevant, except for the purpose of red players going on a pk rampage) - is punishing players for wanting to play an MMO in a group. Waragons? Ha! I'll get better drops grinding Abandoned Iron Mine. Basilisks? I didn't get a single belt there, be it in pieces or as whole in 10 hours+. Shultz, the last time I tried, was just a sponge fest with, again, rewards worse than what the neighbouring Sausans would offer. So what it feels like they're doing is make group content just be able to say they have some. It's a miracle Atoraxxion ended up being a pleasant experience, compared to pretty much everything else mentioned above.

Instanced gameplay ain't all bad, if it has a reason to be so. Dungeons can be instanced without any worries. Less risk for another group to bug Krahtenn or other elite for everyone else on that channel. It's only a problem if they're the only group content - and that only because BDO takes pride in being open world. As for Haso? They want to make the new region a starting area for everyone. The boss mechanics are designed so that, for the most part, gearscore is irrelevant. It's a completely different approach to everything else we have. And I think that's fine. Having the boss rush fully instanced ain't all bad either. Just that the continent will feel deserted (akin to how Tera felt, after loot was removed from most of the mobs, only here even the mobs are removed). Huge swaths of plastic trees with barely a soul to be seen anywhere. Can they add thematic monsters near the boss zones later on, so that things will feel more lively and people can have more reasons to settle in LotML? Probably! Will they? Probably not. Minimal effort with an overdose of marketing to compensate will have to suffice.

Dernière modification : 1 sept. 2023, 07:06 (UTC)
# 52

I think if it is possible to make Marni Rooms and switch your char to an Elvia servers, why isnt it possible to switch to another server to play the single spots in at least a group of two? It is just more fun to grind with others....with that you wouldn't need to rework the spots directly. Players that wanna play solo can still play it the way they like and groups of two or maybe three can go for some grinding together. 

I mean this is a MMO and still it feels like I really dont need any contact to others, espacially cause I am a high AP grinder....there is absolutly no content for me (except dungeons) that I can enjoy with my guild mates. I mean sure, Dehkia did open some spots for me, but the requirement to grind there are so high that most others of my guild can 't go there....so whats the point? Should I only group up with randoms now?

That is quite depressive and I think the reason a lot of high AP grinders leave the game eventually.

I really hope you think a bit more about that! Cause in the Land of the Morning Light there is also no group content!

Dernière modification : 5 sept. 2023, 18:16 (UTC)
# 53

My group of friends came from other MMO's and they're dying for group content.  We usually do dungeons together as a group in other games.  Can we please get proper instanced single group dungeons?  Something we can work our way through, get rewarded for killing various bosses, with chase loot that we'll want to farm the dungeon for.  You know like a proper MMORPG instanced group dungeon that's so popular in all other MMO's.

None of my friends enjoy the mindless solo circle grind that BDO calls "endgame" content.  Boss Blitz is a good start, it shows BDO can have instanced boss encounters.  Now design a group instance with 4-5 of these bosses in there, fill with some random trash mobs to clear in between, and voila you've got yourself a standard MMORPG staple instanced group content.  

You know the recent bump in activity where lots of gamers from other MMO's tried BDO, many of them enjoyed BDO somewhat and gave it a fairly good review.  A lot of them left because the game severely lacks social content, that somehow one way or another they're forced to go out there and mindless solo grind in circles.  Unless you do node wars & siege, you don't even need a guild.  If you want this game to grow and see that bump again, and want to retain players from other MMO's that try this game, then put in some proper social/group content.  Instanced group dungeons that a group/guild of friends can do together will be a good start.  You can do it PA I believe in you.

Dernière modification : 6 sept. 2023, 16:27 (UTC)
# 54

Totally agree

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